New Honda PCX 125i

**Mad Hatter** · 06-11-2009, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by withnallstoke

New basket (black only), 99bht.

But I want a pink basket, one to match my shirt and jeans.

**Bung** · 06-11-2009, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by Mad Hatter

"... is pretty close to the best two-wheeler Honda has ever made". Pardon me while I just puke up. Who writes this garbage? [That's a rhetorical question by the way]. "... with the latest on electronic fuel-injection" - you're really fvcked if this goes up the spout. "... state-of-the-art 4-stroke engine" - Oh, so they've just reinvented the Otto four stroke engine - that really is state of the art.

Couple of things to bear in mind here:

Even the most hard core bikers will admit - when you look at it critically - that these types of scooters are the best bikes in the world and this latest iteration is the best of the best so yes, this may well be the best two wheeler Honda has ever made.

I'm amazed that people still fear electronics in vehicles. "Oh, if it packs up your in the shit" Vehicles pre modern electronics were waaay less reliable and so had much more chance of being stuck somewhere.

Seeing how this is the latest model then yes, it is a state of the art 4 stroke. Have you seen the specs? They don't just sit there pumping out the same engines year after year, they constantly refine them making the latest state of the art.

Not so outrageous as you claim.

**Mad Hatter** · 06-11-2009, 08:54 AM

First of all Bung I'll agree with you that Hondas are pretty damn fine machines. Their reputation for reliability is outstanding.

However, that wasn't really the point - it was the introduction of what seems to me to be an inordinately complicated transmission system that bugged me - and yet this is being hailed as a great feature.

From a marketing point of view it is - any fule can ride one of these contraptions, no need to understand about gears or clutch control. But I really do question the long term reliability of what is an exceedingly complex transmission system. If it does pack up can your local workshop guys fix it? Or does it require the bike to go to a Honda dealer and all the expense that that entails?

The other thing that stuck in my gullet was the marketing hype - Honda haven't reinvented the 4 stroke engine, they have refined it a little bit more. And with every refinement additional complexity is built in. Hmm... I would prefer something bog simple when I'm out in the sticks - something the local blacksmith could fix.

As a final note when I visit Thailand again I am seriously considering a run around - and guess what - it's going to be a Honda because of their reliability - but I'll still pass on this latest creation for the moment. MH.

**Bung** · 06-11-2009, 09:03 AM

^ The auto belt drive system is actually a lot less complex than a engine case full of gears, centrifugal clutch and final drive....

If it does pack up it will be the belt has worn out (after many thousands of K's) and most somchais will have a spare hanging up on the wall. Most certainly for the current range at least.

Honda never claimed to have reinvented the 4 stroke engine, merely made one that is state of the art - which it is.

**Marmite the Dog** · 06-11-2009, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Bung

Honda never claimed to have reinvented the 4 stroke engine, merely made one that is state of the art - which it is.

If you're talking about the VFR, then I agree, but not the scoot's engine. Unless you're comparing it with a pushrod V-twin of course.

**Bung** · 06-11-2009, 09:18 AM

It is state of the art when comparing it to previous scooter engines. I doubt they are comparing it to larger bikes, that would be out of context. These manufacturers are constantly refining their products primarily for economy and reliability. You may be surprised to see what they do, often completely changing them from one year to the next. State of the art.

**Bung** · 07-11-2009, 08:30 AM

Just looking at the seat, that hump will make it interesting to carry a whole family but might be fun to wedge a horny lady in there...

Bit like my old mates trick of putting half a tennis ball under the lining of his Triumphs seat just where his old lady sat to facilitate the fun once home.

**withnallstoke** · 07-11-2009, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Bung

Bit like my old mates trick of putting half a tennis ball under the lining of his Triumphs seat just where his old lady sat to facilitate the fun once home.

I used to ride a Kwak that had a very strange vibration "problem" at 4,700 revs. The occasional lady lucky enough to ride pillion for more than twenty minutes used to disembark with wobbly legs.

**spliff** · 30-04-2013, 12:10 PM

What do you think about the new Honda 125i Click?

**joepaai** · 30-04-2013, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by spliff

What do you think about the new Honda 125i Click?

I have one and find it great - hauls my 105Kg arse around without problems

**Bung** · 30-04-2013, 06:21 PM

You will have many thousands of trouble free riding with one of those along with the country's biggest dealer network to rely on.

Just change the oil regularly and don't forget the final drive oil as well. Change the tyres when they start to look like they need it, it helps when riding in the wet to have good tyres and when they get worn it is easy to pick up punctures. then you look like a twat pushing your bike down the road sweating your bollocks off. also make sure the brake pads have some meat on them. Change the brake fluid when you change the pads.

Do that and it will never let you down.

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