Is Pattaya the sleaziest place on earth?

**CRSD** · 03-11-2009, 10:05 AM

Damn! I forgot Detroit, LA, and New Orleans for sure! Went to Mardi Gras a few years before Katrina, I saw hookers sitting in chairs in the middle of the streets giving head. The point is that there are Pattayas in every country. No big deal on the advertising either. In the US, Hooters is advertised as a family restaurant. Happens everywhere.

**Spin** · 03-11-2009, 11:26 AM

Steve McKenna? Nah, the OP was written by Lily.

**nikster** · 03-11-2009, 07:46 PM

Man, I'd be sad too if I were in Pattaya with no cash. HAHAHAHA LOL what an idiot.

And I don't even like Pattaya very much. I've only visited once and that was with my wife. Yeah yeah yeah, I know maybe that's why, should have come with some buddies... unlike other playgrounds in Thailand, never wanted to come back to patters...

**nikster** · 03-11-2009, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by CRSD

Damn! I forgot Detroit, LA, and New Orleans for sure! Went to Mardi Gras a few years before Katrina, I saw hookers sitting in chairs in the middle of the streets giving head. The point is that there are Pattayas in every country. No big deal on the advertising either. In the US, Hooters is advertised as a family restaurant. Happens everywhere.

Don't know I was in Las Vegas and Amsterdam and in Black Rock City but I have never quite seen anything like Pattaya. I remember driving by what seemed like a solid kilometer of lady bars. Truly impressive!!!

Mardi Gras = I have never been, but it only happens once a year - doesn't count.

**dirtydog** · 03-11-2009, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by nikster

Mardi Gras = I have never been, but it only happens once a year - doesn't count.

Walking Street, only happens in the evenings not including Buddhist holidays - doesn't count

**ocker692004** · 03-11-2009, 08:40 PM

I guess he does not have friends to talk to about Pattya. It is great place for all, you just have to patient and ask the right questions. If he did not like it from the minute he arrived why didn't he just get back on the bus and plane and go back to Australia. I was obvious he did not like Bangkok either.

The lesson here is for him - pay attention to what you are doing and educate yourself about the country you are going BEFORE you travel.

**ocker692004** · 03-11-2009, 08:41 PM

PS

He obviously did not read any of the forum post about Pattya.

**Smug Farang Bore** · 03-11-2009, 09:03 PM

Someone should write a book for him to read.

P P P P P P
Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance

Travel writer

Should get a job in MC Ds where he won't get all lost n upset.

**mingmong** · 03-11-2009, 10:10 PM

Im assured from the wife, Jotimen was a Thai Family Beach, have photos to prove it, when we went there 3 years ago we found it a gay European older men / young Local hang out strip! but very quite and no trouble, things change

as for Steve's blog, if he needs cash from Mum, hes a Mummy's Boy and should stay Home!

**john1000** · 03-11-2009, 11:37 PM

Many new Farang coming to Pattaya now also Arab and Russians so will continue to bring much needed cash to poor people from poorer parts of Thailand.

They give what foreigners want; thus place is created by farang for farang...some parts I like must admit.

**Kapilvastu** · 03-11-2009, 11:48 PM

He is not wrong in his assessment but, he did seem to get stuck in the nastiest part of town, although he did manage to avoid Boys Town and Sunie Plaza. I live quite near (10 kilos), but haven't seen those sleazy areas in years. He could have take a 10 baht tuk tuk ride to Jom Tien for a nice beach. Most of Jom Tien Beach Road has no obvious prostitute joints at all. At the lower end, where it gets quiet, it is quite sedate and , yes, very family orientated too.I just came from there, it's full of cafes, restaurants and decent looking people ; lots of Russian families too. I guess he could have found a better side of Pattaya,if he had only asked. It seems a shame that he stepped of the bus straight into the sh*t.

**dirtydog** · 04-11-2009, 02:41 AM

^I doubt he could have sold that story though

**deanshanger** · 04-11-2009, 03:14 AM

Great description of Pattaya ..... thats why I go there for my holiday there every year. And yes.... I am one of the old men hand in hand with a Thai lady.
Unfortunately this portrays just one side of Pattaya.... there is another. Sky television in England are currently showing an 8 part series all about Pattaya.. called Big Troble In Thailand. As the title suggests it only shows what can go wrong there and lots of footage of Walking St, the girls, the bars, the jet ski`s, the jails etc....... What a pity it only shows one side of Pattaya, just the same as the original author of this thread.
Back next year ?? you bet I will.

**wilko** · 04-11-2009, 03:55 AM

Sadly those who regurgitate this theme probably have more hangups than the town itself.

**NokTang** · 04-11-2009, 05:08 AM

Originally Posted by peterpan

Last week I stayed at my mates place on the hill, it overlooks one of the nicest houses I have ever seen, I would hazard a guess at upward of 30 mill Bt.
I can't take a meaningful photo of it because its surrounded by a 3 meter high wall and seems to have cameras everywhere, despite this its been burgled a few times.

I wonder why would anyone build such a beautiful house in one of the saddest, sleaze pits in the world ?

Rumor has it, one of the nice houses near Pattaya Park and the new View Talay building is owned by the royal family, a princess I believe. Not sure if this where you refer? I think it is or was for sale.

As someone suggested...living here has been great but I'd never consider it for a vacation again. I'm even at the point of discouraging the few friends I have from coming. Too many drunks and bars nowadays.

**dirtydog** · 04-11-2009, 05:20 AM

Plenty of houses in that area around the 30 million baht mark, and yes one of the Thai kings daughters lives at the bottom of the hill near the beach and the hotel that looks like a castle.

**sabang** · 04-11-2009, 06:18 AM

Many people like San Fransisco for the permissive, 'anything goes' character of the place. But that doesn't mean you have to be a radical lesbian or Transgender to live there, and enjoy it. Many people like Pattaya for the same reason- but that doesn't mean you have to be a Barfly or whore monger to live there either. You are free to be so if you want to, or when you want. Both places have their problems too- in SF there seem to be legions of homeless people panhandling on the streets, in some Pattaya bar soi's the drunken yob culture, and the inevitable petty crime that tourism brings. And Amsterdam has it's spaced out, thieving druggie scum.

Bottom line is, if you prefer living in some straitlaced clone of a 1960's family sit-com, I suppose there are places like that too. Up to you- but many others would find that cloistering, and boring.

^ Yeh, maybe we should keep that quiet from the 'holier than thou' moral puritan brigade. But theres a helluva lot of wealth in Pattaya.

Some people on tight budgets too.

**Whiteshiva** · 04-11-2009, 09:14 AM

Personally, it is not so much the sleaze that puts me off Pattaya, as the crime, filth and the kind of people (Thai and foreign) that the place attracts.

How come there's never a tsunami when you need one....

**Butterfly** · 04-11-2009, 09:34 AM

there are some fantastic houses in Pattaya, after Jomtiem there is a lovely private projects with 100M THB houses, all owned by rich Thais, with their private beach. Very discrete, impossible to find, unless you know which obscure little soi you need to take.

Next to the princess house, one of those rich Thai decided to build 4 very expensive "beach house". They were asking 45M THB for each for what is no more than 10M house.

Their justification for the price ? "it's pattaya"

fuck yeah, for that price I can have a mansion in Hawaii !!!

Location, Location, Location. They never heard of it.

**Loy Toy** · 04-11-2009, 09:51 AM

There's some lovely house locations just outside of Pattaya and waiting to be scooped up by the developers.

I wish I was cashed up at the moment as some nice pieces of land are going for a song and all with Ocean/ City views.

I have always wondered why it is soo important for people to live right on the ocean with no private beach access as to look at a blank sea must be the most boring and expensive aspect you can imagine.

**Butterfly** · 04-11-2009, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

I wish I was cashed up at the moment as some nice pieces of land are going for a song and all with Ocean/ City views.

how much per Rai ?

**Loy Toy** · 04-11-2009, 10:13 AM

^ Some places 400,000 to 600,000 but you have to buy a huge slab of land unfortunately.

That's the problem mate........to buy the land is soo cheap but than you have to get all the services in place which can triple the price.

More of a long term investment and ready for the time this place can get its act together.

**Butterfly** · 04-11-2009, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

That's the problem mate........to buy the land is soo cheap but than you have to get all the services in place which can triple the price.

how far is it ? so I assume no water, electricity etc... 600,000 is very reasonable, might take a look and buy some

send me the location by PM, don't want to advertise those deals in public

**Loy Toy** · 04-11-2009, 10:36 AM

Will do mate..........Off to the big shithole now for 3 days of breathing in pollution and fighting with the traffic.

**Sichon** · 04-11-2009, 12:45 PM

Well.....Pattaya is for sure not for the faint-hearted and for sure not for families with young children.... I lived there myself for 5 years.... it was fun and good for business.... I was single, so I liked the place .... the hottest nightlife scene in Thailand....but when I finally met the girl of my dreams I relocated to a place less "sleezy"

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