Graphic Pic: Pilot Whale Slaughter in Denmark

**ChristySweet** · 30-10-2009, 11:23 AM

Pilot Whale Slaughter in Denmark
Sorry, no link for photo

Whale Killing Countries:

Danish Faeroe Islands

High Commissioner of the Faeroe Islands
Ms. Birgit Kleis
Amtmansbrekkan 6
FO-110 Tórshavn
PO Box 12
Faeroe Islands
Tel: +298-351200
E-mail: riomfr[at]fo.stm.dk
Prime Minister of Denmark
Kaj Leo Johanneseen
Christiansborg
Prins Jørgens Gård 11
1218 Copenhagen K
Denmark
Tel: +45 33 92 33 00
Fax +45 33 11 16 65
E-mail: stm[at]stm.dk

Warning; Graphic Photo :

These are whales they killed.

**Stinky** · 30-10-2009, 11:28 AM

Dolphins are easier to process

**beazalbob69** · 30-10-2009, 11:48 AM

Why? WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY?

Man needs a cosmic enema. We are horrible.

**madjbs** · 30-10-2009, 11:51 AM

Can you buy whale in Thailand? I would like to try it.

**BillyBobThai** · 30-10-2009, 01:21 PM

Looks like it is going to be good night for a Bar B Q.. Some of you sick bastards think that when we kill something for food, the sky is falling.

**Don Juan** · 30-10-2009, 01:27 PM

Fucking disgrace.

What's that address above? Is that the person responsible?

**Jet Gorgon** · 30-10-2009, 01:27 PM

It's OK if it's served on a styrofoam base, wrapped in saran wrap and presented at the chilled meat counter at the local supermarket.

**larvidchr** · 30-10-2009, 01:58 PM

The Faero isles are under Danish rule but with almost total autonomi, ie their own parliment and Government there is about 50.000 inhabitants and the isles is situated 250 miles directly north of Scotland, the Pilot whale fishing is a tradition that happens when the whales migrate past the isles, nothing goes to waste and it is for food, not just some small part of the Pilot whale and not for export or sale, the catch is divided between the family's participating in the hunt (fishing), I agree that it looks grizzly, but otherwise it is just normal fishing on a small group of islands, it is done not by using big fishing vessels but by using small rowing-boats from shore, it does not resemble commercial large scale fishing in any way.

Finally the Danish Prime Ministers name is not Kaj Leo Johannesen, and this is not something Denmark can interfere with, it is solely a Faeroe matter.

If you do want to be part of the "ultra lunatic save everything" groups please get your facts straight before posting.

I am against commercial whale-hunting like most people, but not against indigenous people hunting their food on a very small scale like they have done for hundreds of years.

**Cujo** · 30-10-2009, 02:25 PM

Must be horrible to be another species trapped on planet earth with the humans.

**larvidchr** · 30-10-2009, 02:39 PM

^True what do you eat ?

**Don Juan** · 30-10-2009, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by larvidchr

a very small scale like

That's not a small scale, it's more like mass murder.

I wonder how they'd like the same treatment.

**Cujo** · 30-10-2009, 02:57 PM

Cows mostly, some lambs, rabbits, turtls, pretty much anything with eyes.

Originally Posted by larvidchr

^True what do you eat ?

**larvidchr** · 30-10-2009, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Don Juan

Originally Posted by larvidchr

a very small scale like

That's not a small scale, it's more like mass murder.

I wonder how they'd like the same treatment.

Some facts-

Population and distribution

Pilot Whales are amongst the most common and widely-distributed of the marine mammals in the cetacean order.
The Long-finned species prefers slightly cooler waters than the Short-finned and is divided into two populations. The larger group is found in a circumpolar band in the Southern Ocean running from approximately 20° S to 65° S. It may be sighted off the coasts of Chile, Argentina, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand. There are estimated to be in excess of 200,000 individuals in this group. The second population is much smaller and inhabits the North Atlantic Ocean, in a band that runs from South Carolina in the United States across to the Azores and Morocco and its southern edge and from Newfoundland to Greenland, Iceland and northern Norway at is northern. It is also present in the western half of the Mediterranean Sea.
The Short-finned species is more populous. It is found in temperate and tropical waters of the Indian, Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. Its population overlaps slightly with the Long-finned Species in the western Atlantic. There are 150,000 individuals in the eastern tropical Pacific Ocean. There are estimated to be more than 30,000 animals in the western Pacific, off the coast of Japan.
Both species prefer deep water.
[edit] Human interaction

See also: Whaling in the Faroe Islands
The long-term survival prospects of both species look good. Indeed in its Red List of Threatened Species the IUCN lists both the Long-finned and Short-finned as "Lower Risk; conservation dependent".
The Long-finned Pilot Whale has traditionally been hunted by whalers by the process of "driving" - where many fishermen and boats gather in a semicircle behind a pod of whales, that has been sighted close to shore, and slowly drive them towards a bay. When close enough stones attached to lines from the boats are thrown into the water behind the whales, driving them towards the beach where they become stranded and are slaughtered. This practice was common in both the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. Currently only the Faroe Islands operates such a cull. Statistics have been kept for the drives in the Faroe Islands for centuries, and in the 1980s around 2,500 individuals were killed each year in this manner, declining in the 1990s to under a thousand.

Ólavur Sjúrðaberg, the chairman of the Faroese Pilot Whaler’s Association, describes the pilot whale hunt in such a way: "I'm sure that no one who kills his own animals for food is unmoved by what he does. You want it done as quickly and with as little suffering as possible for the animal."[11]
[edit] The pilot whale as a source of food

Most part of traditional Faroese food consists of meat. Because of the harsh Faroese climate, grain and vegetables have not been able to grow very well.[citation needed] During the winter months the Faroe Islanders´ only option was to mostly eat salted or dried food (this includes meat, pilot whale meat, seabirds and fish). This means that over the centuries, the pilot whale has been an important source of food and vitamins to the isolated population on the North Atlantic archipelago.
The pilot whale meat and blubber is stored, prepared and eaten in the Faroese households. This also means that meat is not available at supermarkets. Although the Faroe Island's main export is fish, this does not include pilot whale meat or blubber. An annual catch of 956 pilot whales[12] (1990–1999) is roughly equivalent to 500 tonnes of meat and blubber, some 30% of all meat produced locally in the Faroe Islands.

The pilot whale hunt is an integral part of Faroese social culture. Faroese men often say that grindadráp makes them feel Faroese. Women do not actively take part in grindadráp, but are bystanders or onlookers. This is part of the traditional division of labour concerning grindadráp that is centuries old, and has not changed over time.

Threat to the whale population

There is a raging debate about whether the pilot whale hunt represents a significant threat to pilot whale populations; the actual size of the Northeast Atlantic Pilot Whale population is a subject of debate between different organizations.
In its Red List of Threatened Species the IUCN lists both the Long-finned and Short-finned Pilot Whales as "Lower Risk: Conservation dependent". The figure accepted by the International Whaling Commission's Scientific Committee is the 778,000 animals obtained by the North Atlantic Sightings Survey in 1992. Those in favour of whaling, such as the North Atlantic Marine Mammal Commission in their 1997 and 1999 report on the hunt,[15] say that this is a conservative estimate, whilst those opposed to the hunt, such as the Whale and Dolphin Conservation Society say the figure is over-estimated. If the figure is accepted, then the average kill from 1990–1999 of 956 animals per year, represents a little more than 0.1% of the population, which the commission has deemed sustainable.

Controversy

Photographs in the media of the pilot whale hunt display a red-coloured sea with the bodies of dead pilot whales. These images enraged whale protectors worldwide.
Most Faroese maintain that it is their right to catch pilot whales given that they have done so for centuries. The Faroese whalers defend their actions before international organizations like Greenpeace with three arguments: one, that grindadráp is not a hunt as such, but a dráp meaning a kill (ie that they do not regularly take to sea just to hunt for pilot whales, but only kill those which are sighted swimming too close at land); two, that the pilot whale hunt does not exist for commercial reasons, but for internal food distribution among households; and three, they do not believe the pilot whale to be an endangered species.
It is rare to hear critical voices in the Faroe Islands, but in the last few years they have become more frequent. Opponents of the grindadráp often argue on an emotional level, citing in particular the bloody kill on the fjord bank. The Faroese response to this allegation is that a bloody beach is not in fact a problematic issue concerning whale-catching, and that the problem is that a large part of the civilized population has been alienated from the process and basic consequences of animal food production.
Proponents of the hunt further argue that the pilot whale lives its whole life in liberty in its natural habitat, the Atlantic Ocean, and then dies in a few minutes, in contrast to many commonly held livestock such as cows, pigs and chickens, the meat from which one finds in most modern supermarkets. These animals often live in captivity or confinement for their whole lives and are then subject to lengthy transportation and other stressful events before their final slaughter. Furthermore, causing an animal unnecessary or excessive pain and discomfort is prohibited by the Faroese law.
Animal-rights activists argue that the grindadráp is not only cruel, but in view of the ample food supply in today's Faroes, completely unnecessary. Additional argumentation is supplied by the Faroese Ministry of Health, which warns of excessive consumption of pilot whale meat, since it has been shown to contain high levels of mercury, PCBs and environmental poisons.[16][17] In practice this means that pilot whale meat and blubber can only be safely consumed once a month by the Faroese, a much smaller quantity compared with previous decades.
During the recent history of the grindadráp, the tools of the catch have modernized. Cellular telephones and radio allow the islands to be alerted to a sighting within the course of minutes. The use of private motorboats give the whalers more speed and maneuverability on the water. The dull blowhole hook, adopted in response to concerns over cruelty, had the additional effect of further increasing the effectiveness of Faroese attempting to beach the whales. In spite of how such improvements to the tools could make the grindadráp more effective, the number of pilot whales caught, both overall and per drive, is less than preceding centuries.

Hardly "mass murder" or overfishing, would you forbid the Eskimos to hunt seal as-well ?

**Don Juan** · 30-10-2009, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by larvidchr

would you forbid the Eskimos to hunt seal as-well ?

Yes.

There's no need to live like cavemen in this day & age.

Animal-rights activists argue that the grindadráp is not only cruel, but in view of the ample food supply in today's Faroes, completely unnecessary

They're absolutely right.

Faroese men often say that grindadráp makes them feel Faroese

Somebody needs to stand up for these creatures - using extreme violence.

Let's see how 'Faroese' they feel with their homes burned to the ground.

**MustavaMond** · 30-10-2009, 04:22 PM

The pilot whale hunt is an integral part of Faroese social culture. Faroese men often say that grindadráp makes them feel Faroese. Women do not actively take part in grindadráp, but are bystanders or onlookers. This is part of the traditional division of labour concerning grindadráp that is centuries old, and has not changed over time.

No Shit I bet they don' t,.

Horrible those animals have just as much cognizance as any of us , more in plenty of cases. And eating meat is really no long an option on an already taxed out environment
Neanderthals, no worse , no words....

**larvidchr** · 30-10-2009, 04:37 PM

^^ you are talking out your arse, you would not survive a week on the ice if you could not hunt/fish, do you think they have a tesco just round the corner! or even any money to by food with if they had!

In the case of the Faroe isles the pilot whales represent 30% of their collected resources of meat, no society could do without 30% of their food without a massive crisis, and on the Faroes there is no other alternative than to import meat at unsustainable high prices, since the climate don't allow for much farming or other food production, why on earth should they import when they have plentiful food in the sea by their own doorstep, and are doing no harm to the pilot whales chance of survival.

As long as hunting/fishing don't pose a threat to the specific animal population, and it is for food and not just for fun, then it is perfectly allright, actually it can be seen as even more humane than farming of animals just for the purpose of slaughter, since the animals have been free until the day they get caught.

You people are driven by irrational emotion, envisioning pyromania while chewing on your burgers and Kentucky fried chickens, you are nothing short of completely nuts, detached from reality and unable to sort shit from sugar, taking action against the clubbing of baby seals is OK, taking action against killing the last few big whales in the world is OK, but getting militant because of the, (for the concerned species survival), inconsequential traditional hunt, by small numbers of indigenous people, Is just- total detached from reality unproductive lunacy, and probably reflects that you have to much idle time on your hands, because you come from places where others always have taken care of all your needs.

**AntRobertson** · 30-10-2009, 04:45 PM

Whilst I find the notion of hunting (much less eating) whales repugnant I gotta agree with larvs here.

It's probably much the same way that some other people / cultures feel about New Zealanders fondness for eating lamb, just for one example.

**larvidchr** · 30-10-2009, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by MustavaMond

The pilot whale hunt is an integral part of Faroese social culture. Faroese men often say that grindadráp makes them feel Faroese. Women do not actively take part in grindadráp, but are bystanders or onlookers. This is part of the traditional division of labour concerning grindadráp that is centuries old, and has not changed over time.

No Shit I bet they don' t,.

Horrible those animals have just as much cognizance as any of us , more in plenty of cases. And eating meat is really no long an option on an already taxed out environment
Neanderthals, no worse , no words....

Do you get just as upset by the 40.000 I repeat 40.000 innocent children that starve to death every day, with out the worlds meat production that number would be many fold higher, and I believe they to have some cognizance. Priorities priorities eh- maybe you should concentrate all that energy into getting them some food instead, and be happy that the islanders on the Faroe isles can take care of their food needs without hurting anybody else and without having to ask for help.

Farming alone will never alone be able to feed the rising populations of the world, we will never be able to manage without meat production, that notion is pure fantasy.

**smeden** · 30-10-2009, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by madjbs

Can you buy whale in Thailand? I would like to try it.

i am often in norway i can take some whale meat whith me to tailand mostly it is meat from killer whales (same as in free willy) it taste ok

**Don Juan** · 30-10-2009, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by larvidchr

you would not survive a week on the ice

I wouldn't be on the ice in the first place.

do you think they have a tesco just round the corner

If they had half a brain they'd go to somewhere there is one.

Schools, too.

Barbarians.

doing no harm to the pilot whales

without hurting anybody

**Rattanaburi** · 30-10-2009, 05:29 PM

^^Larvidchr 40,000 children dying each day means 14,600,000 children die per year from hunger not including any adults. okay. Well, the only reason 40,000 hungry little carnivores die every day is because their parents fuck like dogs or monkeys. Let the buggers die. If that bothers you blame their monkeyass-humping parents. This world has too many humans. We don't need any more. The bible thumpers who would like to give their God a rim job probably want more so they can get some help giving that rim job. The more humans that die off the better for the remainder and the better for the whales and other creatures on this planet.

BTW, when the food on the planet runs out I won't hesitate to drive an axe through your hungry kids heads in order to feed myself and my family so fatten up your offspring; that'll make them good and juicy when their frying on my barbecue.

**larvidchr** · 30-10-2009, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by Rattanaburi

^^Larvidchr 40,000 children dying each day means 14,600,000 children die per year from hunger not including any adults. okay. Well, the only reason 40,000 hungry little carnivores die every day is because their parents fuck like dogs or monkeys. Let the buggers die. If that bothers you blame their monkeyass-humping parents. This world has too many humans. We don't need any more. The bible thumpers who would like to give their God a rim job probably want more so they can get some help giving that rim job. The more humans that die off the better for the remainder and the better for the whales and other creatures on this planet.

BTW, when the food on the planet runs out I won't hesitate to drive an axe through your hungry kids heads in order to feed myself and my family so fatten up your offspring; that'll make them good and juicy when their frying on my barbecue.

The figures actually varies a great deal according to what organisation you ask, from 10.000 a day and up, 15.000 is probably a safe bet all though some organisations claim as high a figure as 15.000.000 a year.
I don't care who is to blame I only know that it is not the children's fault they are innocent.

Are you seriously threatening my children here on the forum in your fantasy scenario, or are you just spouting a tasteless joke? either way you are a bit of a sick fuck aren't you

**Don Juan** · 30-10-2009, 06:08 PM

Here's a fantasy scenario for you.

Whale : Hi mate!

Activist : Hi, Mr Whale.

Whale : Why are those people killing my family?

Activist : It makes them feel 'big' & saves them from going to Tesco.

Whale : What?

Activist : Yeah, they do it to feel big about themselves, part of the island, or something like that.

Whale : Fuck me. Can't they just live & let live?

Activist : Afraid not. They believe they are the only species that have the right to life.

Whale : I wish I could stop them somehow. I mean really fuck them up. They just killed my kids!

Activist : I do, too. Tell you what, you seem a nice whale, I'll do it for you.

(insert extreme violence here)

Animal activists provide a voice for those who haven't been judged fit to have one by mankind.

They are far from nuts.

They care about sentient beings & are better people for it.

**Stinky** · 30-10-2009, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by Rattanaburi

BTW, when the food on the planet runs out I won't hesitate to drive an axe through your hungry kids heads in order to feed myself and my family so fatten up your offspring; that'll make them good and juicy when their frying on my barbecue.

Bad humour or just pissed, either way I find this disturbing. You need to apologise to Larv

**chitown** · 30-10-2009, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by Rattanaburi

^^Larvidchr 40,000 children dying each day means 14,600,000 children die per year from hunger not including any adults. okay. Well, the only reason 40,000 hungry little carnivores die every day is because their parents fuck like dogs or monkeys.

So everyone should just have on child?

In a few generations the human race would vanish.

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