Thread: Ex-Israeli prime minister heckled on San Francisco visit

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

a pity Europe has done nothing for Israel.

Huh? The very establishment of Israel in the UN was supported by nearly all European countries.

Because no one wanted them there.
Hitler wanted to ship them all off to some distant places, but nobody would accept them. Thats why he came up with the "final solution" by turning them into ash.
There was a ship load of them sailing around the world looking for refuge when Hitler started his rampage. They got turned away at every port including USA.
Africa and South America were considered as alternatives to get rid of the European Jews after WW2 until Britain came up with the bright idea of dumping them off in the Palestinian territory which was under their control at the time. That suited the Jews just fine as there had been isolated Jewish efforts to reclaim their biblical home land by force of arms since the late 1800s. When the Jews arrived en masse in Palestine after 1948 they started to force the Palestinians out of the place. Sometimes by legitimately purchasing Palestinian land and sometimes by ruthless warfare. The British tried to act as peacekeepers, but the new Israelis turned on the Brits and started to attack them using terrorist tactics. The Brits soon figured out there was nothing in it for them by staying and left the Israelis to it. Some years later the US took an interest in Israel as a strategic Allie in the oil rich Middle East. Its all there in the history books.

Apr 17, 2006 - Eleven people were killed and over 60 wounded in a suicide bombing during the Passover holiday at the Rosh Ha'ir shawarma restaurant, near the old central bus station in Tel Aviv. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Jan 29, 2007 - Three people were killed in a suicide bombing in a bakery in the southern city of Eilat: bakery employees and Eilat residents Emi Haim Elmaliah, 32, Michael Ben Sa'adon, 27, and Israel Zamalloa, 26. The Islamic Jihad and the Fatah al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

Feb 4, 2008 - Lyubov Razdolskaya, 73, of Dimona was killed and 38 wounded - Razdolskaya's husband critically - in a terror attack carried out by a suicide bomber at a shopping center in Dimona. A police officer shot and killed a second terrorist before he detonated his explosive belt. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack and praised it as an "heroic act".

Originally Posted by callippo

you'll find there's been something like twenty or thirty in the past six years

According to the Israeli ministry of foreign affairs, these are the last three Palestinian suicide bombings.

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by sabang

The term was first coined during the reign of emperor Hadrian- yes, it is from Latin- 'Palastina'.

Learn something everyday. All along I thought it was derived from the much maligned Philistines of biblical fame.

Both 'Palestina' and 'Philistine' are largely European-based terms. As the Semitic regions aren't European.....what are the local references {and terminology}?

Originally Posted by callippo

And why do you think Jews are called Jews? Perhaps because unlike Arabs, they originally come from Judea, i.e. the holy land, rather than modern day Saudi Arabia?

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Canaan before the Hebrews - Canaan had been a collection of city-states, tributary to the Egyptian Pharoah, as attested to in the Tel- El Amarna tablets. The breakup of the Egyptian empire beginning about 1500 BCE made possible the invasion of the Hebrews. The map shows the probable location of cities in Canaan about 1200 BCE.

Israel in Early Times - According to Hebrew tradition, 12 tribes entered Cana'an from Egypt and conquered it, led by Moses. Historical evidence from the Amarna tables suggests that there were already 'apiru' (probably Hebrews) in Canaanites in the time of Egyptian rule, some possibly with names such as "yakubu-el" (Jacob). The biblical account allots different parts of the land to the twelve tribes as shown in the maps. Soon after, a kingdom was established, first under Saul and then under David. The right-hand map shows the borders of the kingdom of David (about 1000 B.C.E. ) and other nations. The maps are necessarily conjectures based on biblical narrative and supporting archeology.

Maps of ancient Canaan/Palestine/Israel & Brief History

So, evidence of possible Hebrews there living under Egyptian Rule, but eventually taken from the 12 Tribes. Does that give Egypt first claim. (as if it mattered to what is going on now). The Israeli empire builders use the religious mythology in their biblical acounts to sanctify their own slaughter of innocents.

Originally Posted by callippo
the Romans renamed the land from 'Judea' to 'Syria/Palestina' precisely to rub salt in the Jews' wounds following the eventual failure of the massive Bar Kockhba revolt in AD135 - bla bla bla...

if you need to go back that far to justify the crimes committed today, every sane person knows you are wrong....

Here you go, Cal. Just one example.

THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) – The U.N.’s highest judicial authority decided Israel’s planned 425-mile-long barrier in the West Bank violates international law and must be dismantled, according to court documents that were leaked ahead of the announcement.
As it began reading its decision, the International Court of Justice said Friday it has jurisdiction to rule on the legality of the barrier, which Israel is building in response to Palestinian suicide bombings that have killed hundreds of Israelis.
The Tel Aviv newspaper Haaretz, quoting court documents, reported that by a 14-1 vote the judges found the barrier, along its planned route, “gravely infringes” on the rights of Palestinians and cannot be justified by military needs or national security, and violates international law. The lone dissenter was U.S. judge Thomas Buerghenthal.
After being leaked to reporters, the document began appearing on Internet sites.
“Israel is under an obligation to terminate its breaches of international law; it is under an obligation to cease forthwith the works of construction of the wall being built in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including in and around East Jerusalem, to dismantle forthwith the structure therein situated,” said the document, found on the Internet site ei: The Electronic Intifada. [Read the full text.]
The 15-member court’s advisory opinions are nonbinding but bear moral, historic and political weight. They can be the basis for U.N. action.
World Court Condemns Israel’s Wall

I think some of you posting here might care to take a look at this graphic to get a basic overview of the region.

Middle East : 5000 years of history in 90 seconds
Imperial History of the Middle East

#26 Its all there in the history books

evidently none of which you have read, judging by the infantilism of your post. You've got your chronology all wrong, as well as jumping to some seriously silly conclusions you appear to have grabbed out of thin air.

Britain came up with the bright idea of dumping them

LOL. Jews immigrated to Palestine on their own initiative, using their own resources, and had been doing so for half a century before the start of mandate Palestine in 1918. By the 1880s, Jews were already the majority in Jerusalem. In fact the British tried to restrict Jewish immigration into Palestine as much as they could, particularly after the 1939 White Paper when a full blockade was established with the expressed aim of keeping as many Jews out as possible - Jews that in many cases ended up going to their deaths in Nazi occupied Europe.

by contrast, the British did nothing to stop masses of Arabs from immigrating into Palestine from countries like Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Iraq, attracted by the economic growth, jobs, and development in mostly the Jewish areas. Few of these Arabs had even the most tenuous link to the land, and yet seventy years later many of their descendants are still there. Many of those descendants are also today classed as Palestinian 'refugees', even when their ancestors might only have immigrated from Iraq in say 1945 and become 'refugees' in 1948!!!! Yes! An Arab descended from somebody who only went to get a job on a Jewish building site and lived in Palestine for a three years, their grandchildren are even now classed as Palestinian 'refugees' sixty-five years later! How silly is that?

[i]the 15 member court's ruling is non-binding'.

which means, of course, that they're just getting on a soapbox and waffling. Israel's High Court has itself ruled that parts of the fence were illegal and had to be dismantled, which they were. What a non-binding UN court rules doesn't mean shit in Israel, just as it wouldn't mean shit in the United States or anywhere else where it doesn't have any powers to enforce its rulings.

and don't forget that the fence itself is the biggest single reason why there's been a lessening of successful suicide bomb attacks against Israel in recent years.


As the Semitic regions aren't European.....what are the local references {and terminology

Prior to the Mandate Period, obviously the Turks had administered the land for over 400 years, they divided it into several jurisdictions at various times, none of which were called 'Palestine', or anything close to it, as obviously the word is no more Turkish than it is Arab. Arabs of the area would usually refer to the region as 'southern Syria'.

Even well into the 20th century, Arabs were denying the very existence of Palestine :

Initially Arabs welcomed the idea of a Jewish return to Syria (yup, they didn't yet identify the land as "Palestine").

Summarizing the proceedings of the 1913 Arab Congress, Abdul-Hamid Yahrawi wrote:

|| All of us, both Muslims and Christians, have the best of feelings towards the Jews.... they are our brothers in race and we regard them as SYRIANS who were forced to leave the country at one time but whose hearts always beat together with ours, we are certain that our Jewish brothers the world over will know how to help us so that our common interests may succeed and our common country will develop both materially and morally.

At the Paris Peace conference of 1919, Emir Faisal would write:

|| ...there is room in SYRIA for us both. Indeed, I think that neither can be a real success without the other.

Later they outright denied the existence of "Palestine":

Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, told the Peel Commission (1936):

|| There is no such country! 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of SYRIA.

In 1946, speaking before the Anglo-American Committee, Arab-American historian Professor Philip Hitti (Princeton University) stated:

|| There is no such thing as 'Palestine' in history.

The Arab Higher Committee [the body which represented the Arabs of Mandate Palestine] submitted a statement to the UN General Assembly in May, 1947, saying:

|| Palestine was part of the Province of SYRIA... politically, the Arabs of Palestine were not independent in the sense of forming a separate political identity.

Ahmed Shuqiri, who would later be the first chairman of the PLO, told the UN Security Council:

|| It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern SYRIA.

It was only after 1967, when Israel took the territories in a defensive war, that the modern pretense of an "Arab Palestine", retroactively creating a history that never existed, came into being.

The reason why this was done is best explained by Zuheir Muhsin (who was Secretary-General of the Sa‘iqa terrorist group from 1971 to 1979 and a member of the PLO Executive Council):

|| There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity, because it is in the interest of the Arabs to encourage a separate Palestinian identity in contrast to Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity is there only for tactical reasons. The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new expedient to continue the fight against Zionism.

Israeli empire builders.

stuff like that just makes me laugh frankly. I wouldn't be surprised if you subscribe to the notion, beloved of antisemites from Karachi to Kansas, and everywhere in between, that the Israelis have a 'secret agenda' to expand their tiny country, which is roughly the size of Lake Michigan, from the 'Nile to the Euphrates' - despite no Israeli politician in the 60 years of its history, however extreme, ever having been quoted as saying that this is a desirable thing. You still get nutjobs subscribing to the notion that the blue stripes on the Israeli flag, or even the design of the Israeli 10 agorot coin (Arafat believed this), is 'evidence' that the Israelis have this 'secret agenda' to expand their borders this far.

of course, when you come across somebody that actually believes this nonsense, and there's plenty of them, all you can do is just hope that the guy with the butterfly net catches up with them as quickly as possible before they do themselves or somebody else some serious damage.

if the Israelis are 'empire builders', given the massive military superiority they have enjoyed for the past forty years over the Arabs, then they must be pretty useless at it, no? Or perhaps they might have managed to carve themselves an 'empire' that is rather bigger than the 3rd largest lake in the United States?

Originally Posted by callippo

LOL. Jews immigrated to Palestine on their own initiative, using their own resources, and had been doing so for half a century before the start of mandate Palestine in 1918. By the 1880s, Jews were already the majority in Jerusalem. In fact the British tried to restrict Jewish immigration into Palestine as much as they could, particularly after the 1939 White Paper when a full blockade was established with the expressed aim of keeping as many Jews out as possible - Jews that in many cases ended up going to their deaths in Nazi occupied Europe. by contrast, the British did nothing to stop masses of Arabs from immigrating into Palestine from countries like Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Iraq, attracted by the economic growth, jobs, and development in mostly the Jewish areas. Few of these Arabs had even the most tenuous link to the land, and yet seventy years later many of their descendants are still there. Many of those descendants are also today classed as Palestinian 'refugees', even when their ancestors might only have immigrated from Iraq in say 1945 and become 'refugees' in 1948!!!! Yes! An Arab descended from somebody who only went to get a job on a Jewish building site and lived in Palestine for a three years, their grandchildren are even now classed as Palestinian 'refugees' sixty-five years later! How silly is that?

You keep saying that Palestinians are not a nation. Well, like you said, Jews came to the the area...they were not a nation. They coalesced into an army and took what they wanted from people who had been living there for generations. You can call it Palestine. You can call it Hollywood, but let me give you some simple history: a band of Europeans imported themselves into the territory in-mass and took what was not theirs claiming their religeon gave them the right. They then launched a war and took more--best farmland in the territory and lots of water. They then proceded to create outposts of civilians, armed to the teeth, and squat. If it was your home they were taking, would you step aside? Would you shoot back? Would you throw a bomb or two?

Originally Posted by callippo

An Arab descended from somebody who only went to get a job on a Jewish building site and lived in Palestine for a three years, their grandchildren are even now classed as Palestinian 'refugees' sixty-five years later! How silly is that?

And Europeans arrived by the boat load and claimed the land as theirs. Jews from anywhere on earth can go there now with government aid and have all the rights. Can anyone else..? No! People who were living there have to get out of the way for all the newcomers.

Originally Posted by callippo

There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity, because it is in the interest of the Arabs to encourage a separate Palestinian identity in contrast to Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity is there only for tactical reasons. The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new expedient to continue the fight against Zionism.

Consider that Zionism was created as the political wing of a religious group in the previous century. So where's the ancient people with the right of possession. No matter how far back you want to go in the tedium of history, there isn't one. The land has been claimed and reclaimed for thousands of years. The people who were living there in 1948 got screwed. But that's alright in your opinion. It was done by nice religeous people who just wanted to grow oranges and be left alone...after they took what wasn't theirs.

Originally Posted by callippo

I wouldn't be surprised if you subscribe to the notion, beloved of antisemites from Karachi to Kansas

Try sticking to the issues. If you want to associate me with anti-semites you better have a good reason. But don't bother looking. You won't find any antisemitism with my name on it. Calling out the State of Israel on its barbarism against the indigenous population of the land it rules with the gun is not antisemitism. For all you know I am a Jew.

You can paint the Star of David on jack boots, but they're still jack boots on pogrom in the ghetto. Gaza, for example.

Originally Posted by Whiteshiva

Not much of an olive branch

Oct 15th 2009 | AL-MUGHAYIR
From The Economist print edition
The plight of rural Palestinians on the West Bank is as grim as ever



AFPA Palestinian farmer, stumped again

“WHAT did the trees do?” says Muhammad Abu Awad, a retired teacher of agriculture and father of 14 children, as he looks gloomily at his ravaged field. Twisted, silvery stubs are all that remain of a lush grove that once offered up a yearly abundance of fat green olives.

The vandals came at night from Adei Ad, a Jewish settlers’ outpost deemed “illegal” even by the Israeli government, near Shvut Rachel, an established West Bank settlement that is judged illegal in international but not Israeli law. Working fast, unnoticed by Palestinian landowners in the nearby Arab village of al-Mughayir, the settlers cut down nearly 200 olive trees, of which 70 belonged to Mr Abu Awad. As a result, he reckons to have lost income worth around $3,400 that he would have earned from this year’s harvest. But that is not all. “I planted these trees with my own hands 35 years ago”, he says, wistfully touching the stumps, now wrapped in sackcloth to protect them from the sun. Mr Abu Awad hopes his trees will recover and one day bear fruit again.



As usual at harvest time, tension between Palestinian farmers and Jewish settlers has risen. The olive tree deeply stirs the emotions of Palestinians. It is a symbol of their struggle and a vital part of their rural economy. According to their ministry of agriculture, nearly 500,000 olive trees have been bulldozed, burnt down or uprooted in the territories since the second intifada (uprising) began in 2000. Israel’s army has cleared swathes of groves to create open areas in the Gaza Strip and along the security barrier being built on the western side of the West Bank, often taking big bites out of Palestinian land. The Israelis have also cut down thousands of trees near the Jewish settlements. Palestinians and human-rights groups have repeatedly castigated the Israeli army for failing to stop such destruction. The settlers say terrorists hide among the trees.

In recent years the Palestinians have usually been able to pick their olives under the protection of the Israeli army and police. Charities that help the farmers say the army has been taking this job seriously, letting the Palestinians harvest without being harassed by the settlers. But they criticise the soldiers for hectoring the farmers into rushing the picking and say the soldiers could do more to protect the trees before the harvest begins, especially in hot spots near ideologically extreme settlements.

Many of the settlers pursue a “price-tag policy”, deliberately instigating violence and mayhem so that the Israeli military and political establishment is loth to take action, such as evacuating the 100-plus “illegal” settlements, for fear of further violence. As international criticism has mounted, even in America, several Israeli governments have promised to dismantle the outposts but so far little has been done. The settlers are generally against the peace process, because it could mean their expulsion. So whenever there are signs of negotiation, they increase their attacks—among other things, on olive trees. They want to show who controls the land.

Binyamin Netanyahu’s right-wing Israeli government has plainly emboldened the settlers. “Now they fear no one,” says a Palestinian villager in al-Mughayir. When the ruling politicians seem to back the settlers, the Israeli soldiers feel less obliged to protect the Palestinian farmers.

Mr Abu Awad says he is determined to fight to keep his land. “I’ll sleep on my land to protect it,” he says. “I tell my children: if I die, they should bury me where my blood was spilled. I’m in love with my land.”

And some people still wonder why there is Palestinian resistance to these criminal acts.

^ Yeah but what about the jews? 6 million dead in the holocaust.

Originally Posted by Panda

Because no one wanted them there.

Agree and you can add the Soviets to the list favoring the UN resolution.

Wonderful that the goonish American police are always there to make sure that freedom of speech only applies to those who say the "correct" things at the "correct" time.

Consider that Zionism was created as the political wing of a religious group in the previous century.

wrong. The massive majority of the early Zionists were secular, just as they are today. Many were atheists, and many were both athiests and socialists/communists who had nothing but scorn in many cases for religous Jews. You need to get it into your head that Jews are an ethnic group, not a religous denomination, and that was the basis on which the Nazis sought to exterminate them.

oh I see it's that time of year again, the olive harvest, when the Palestinian progapanda division always goes into overdrive. They want to put across the notion to their gullible cheerleaders in the west that haven't got a clue that the Palestinians are like these honest sons-of-toil, yeoman farmers, bedevilled by this devilish, highly-urbanised Jewish enemy.

in actual fact comparitively few Palestinians are employed in agriculture, certainly compared to their Arab neighbours, and 75% live in urban areas. This isn't all that much less than the number of Israelis that live in towns and the gap is narrowing all the time - the West Bank is urbanising twice as fast as Israel.

You keep saying that Palestinians are not a nation.

I'm saying nothing of the sort. I'm saying, simply, that Palestine has never been a nation, and Palestinians have never been a nationality, which is true. The only way they can become a nation is to create one - which last time they had the chance to do so in 2000, they once again rejected.

I've also shown that Arabs themselves, until well into the 20th century, didn't think of Palestine as their nation, or themselves as Palestinians. This is also true.

only after 1967 did a real Palestinian identity emerge, as a counterweight to the the success of the Israelis in that war. Why else do you think that there was no clamour for self-determination from the ex-Palestinian Arabs when they were illegally occupied by Egypt and Jordan between 1948-67 following aggressive war?

I say -ex-Palestinian' because Palestine - the British Mandate Palestine - no longer existed. During the mandate period, there were Jewish Palestinians and Arab Palestinians. The Palestine Post became the Jerusalem Post. The Palestine Philarmonic became the Israel Philarmonic. The Palestine soccer team became the Israel soccer team, etc etc etc.

The Jewish Palestinians became Israelis, whilst the Arabs, unlike the Jews, rejected the chance to form a Palestinian state alongside Israel in 1947. They just got tacked as bit players as part of a wider Arab world.

now let me understand this correctly...

.. There are more Palestinians living in cities then surrounding arab nations.. so it is all false..

o btw, you spend 4 posts trying to convince ppl that Palestine never existed so dont you mean ... south Syrians?

the basis on which the Nazis sought to exterminate them

sure, mention the holocaust again... the eternal excuse..

sure, mention the holocaust again

funny, while everybody else, and especially yourself, couldn't restrain themselves from mentioning it at least once even on the first page, I haven't written down the H-word at all so far, and when I drew attention to it indirectly, it was simply to illustrate that the Jews that were murdered in it were murdered on the basis of their race, or their ethnicity, not their religion.

being an athiest didn't save you.

I wouldn't expect somebody like you to know this, but many hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions even, killed by the Nazis as 'Jews' weren't Jews.

the Nazi criteria for 'Jew' - enough to get them murdered - was that there had to be at least one Jewish grandparent, but as far as Jews are concerned, a Jew is just somebody whose mother is a Jew, or somebody that has converted to Judaism.

Originally Posted by callippo

I've also shown that Arabs themselves, until well into the 20th century, didn't think of Palestine as their nation, or themselves as Palestinians.

The term Arab is not an ethnicity- it is a cultural and linguistic identity. Palestinians are genetically quite distinct from Arabians- ie those from from the Arabian peninsula. There is some (a distinct minority of) Arabian DNA in Palestinians, that mainly dates from the Arabian invasion of Palestine in the 7th century A.D. As with many invasions before and since, all over the world, the Arabian invaders were subsumed into the Palestinian 'hosts' by interbreeding.

There is no question that the Palestinians are a distinct people, and in fact they stand as one of the longest continous occupiers of their land anywhere in the world. As to their genetic ethnicity-
"The early ancestors of some of today's Palestinians are no doubt the Canaanites, Philistines, Phoenicians, Egyptians, Idumaeans, Nabateans and Samaritans. In later periods, their intermarriage with conquering peoples, such as Greeks, Romans, Arabians and Turks, merely added to the genetic mix in Palestine."


What a truly vile bunch of people those radical Settlers are- I mean the loonies that occupy the far flung illegal outposts, and regularly engage in acts of violence and vandalism against the indigenous Palestinians. Even most Israeli's despise them.

Originally Posted by Takeovers

It is just empty talk to discuss if the Arab Nations meant what they were saying or if it was just empty threats without the will to carry it out. A Nation as small as Israel geografical was cannot afford to wait for the tanks rolling.

The attack didn't come out of the blue, it's true. But male posturing and testosterone toxicity are chronic conditions in that part of the world. It was known that Israel had military superiority even then. So why would the Arab countries attack that? Israel, as I recall, initiated the war with attacks from the air that took out most of more than one countries fighter attack force while they still lined up on the runway. Hardly a position geared up for defense if one is about to go to war. Then again, Momma always said, stupid is as stupid does.

At any rate, Common Knowledge lets Israel off by saying it was attacked. It wasn't. The circumstances are less than clear to claim that Israel was justified in attacking first. For a bunch of decent people just trying to defend their little pile of dirt, it sure worked out for them.

Originally Posted by callippo

Consider that Zionism was created as the political wing of a religious group in the previous century. wrong. The massive majority of the early Zionists were secular, just as they are today.

Zionists were secular, yes, as in "the political wing of a religeous group. Jews, are, a religeous group.

Originally Posted by callippo

You need to get it into your head that Jews are an ethnic group, not a religous denomination, and that was the basis on which the Nazis sought to exterminate them.

You need to get it into your head Judaism is a Religeon, one of the three big ones. Or did I miss something? They may also be an ethnic group of loosly shared traditions and beliefs. I'll take my cue as to what it is to be a Jew from some other authority than Hitler.

Originally Posted by callippo

in actual fact comparitively few Palestinians are employed in agriculture, certainly compared to their Arab neighbours, and 75% live in urban areas.

After they've been thrown off their land, where they gonna go...Indiana?

Originally Posted by MrG

Originally Posted by callippo

in actual fact comparitively few Palestinians are employed in agriculture, certainly compared to their Arab neighbours, and 75% live in urban areas.

After they've been thrown off their land, where they gonna go...Indiana?

Refugee camps perhaps?

Gee, most of them live in urban area's now. I wonder why...

Israel breaches international law by exploiting natural resources in the Occupied Territories. Settlements are built in locations to maximise access to water.

♦ Since 1967, Israel has met much of its water demands by drawing it from the Occupied Palestinian Territories.
♦ Israel has the highest per capita consumption of water in the region and uses far more than it produces.
♦ Over 200 communities in the West Bank are not connected to a water network.
♦ The Palestinians are allotted just 18% of the water that is extracted from their own land.
♦ More than 80% of the water from the West Bank goes to Israel.
♦ ‘It is prohibited to attack, destroy, remove or render useless objects indispensable to the survival of the civilian population, such as foodstuffs, agricultural areas for the production of foodstuffs, crops, livestock, drinking water installations and
supplies and irrigation work.’ Art. 54, Protocol I, Geneva Conventions
♦ Israeli settlers living in the West Bank have un-metered access to water.
♦ The Israeli settlers use as much as ten times more water per capita than Palestinians.

happy farming...