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    An extaordinary tirade. Really quite brilliant.

    ABC Fora- Christopher Hitchens and Tony Jones: Does Religion Poison Everything?

    I tried copying the link but I can't seem to make it work.

    This is really worth listening too.

    Christopher Hitchens and Tony Jones: Does Religion Poison Everything? -


    Christopher Hitchens: Religion Poisons Everything - RN Fora Radio - 14 October 2009

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    Man is a religious animal per se, we all believe in some type of God. It's quite sad but we need God.

    There is no such thing as an atheist, it's a myth, like the unicorn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Man is a religious animal per se, we all believe in some type of God. It's quite sad but we need God.

    There is no such thing as an atheist, it's a myth, like the unicorn.
    Probably true. Regardless of our principles and positions, we're conditioned to attach ourselves to some inkling of spirituality of some sort. Easily indoctrinated all away around....

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    listen to Hitchens. Besides being very funny he makes bloody good sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    Man is a religious animal per se, we all believe in some type of God.
    Erm, no we don't.

    There is no such thing as an atheist, it's a myth, like the unicorn.
    Erm, no it's not.
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    ^ sure, it is

    what is your god slack ?

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    My god has an "e" on the end.

    Well, in France anyway.



    Sue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Man is a religious animal per se, we all believe in some type of God. It's quite sad but we need God.
    No, 'we' do not - only dumb, illiterate people stuck in superstitious muck, with no confidence or trust in themselves 'need' a god.

    I guess the shoe fits.

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    ^ you are the perfect example of a believer Quack Quack,

    Mactards are true religious zealots, they believe that Macs make them the disciples of God while in fact they are just lazy little tards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slackula View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    Man is a religious animal per se, we all believe in some type of God.
    Erm, no we don't.

    There is no such thing as an atheist, it's a myth, like the unicorn.
    Erm, no it's not.
    I'd green you, but I'm out of ammo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    what is your god slack ?
    None, as I said, I am not a religious person in any way.

    I don't really have a problem with people believing in whatever they want, as long as they don't try to convert me, but I do get angry when religion is used as an excuse for violence and oppression (which it nearly always is imho).

    Personally I reject the notion of any greater powers or whatever you might call them just as I reject the existence of ghosts, easter bunnies, leprechauns etc.
    bibo ergo sum
    If you hear the thunder be happy - the lightening missed.
    This time.

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    ^ I don't disagree, but religions have nothing to do with God, hence my argument that man are religious animals, they need to organize themselves into communities to believe into something, usually a God or set of principles to guide their life.

    We all have religious principles, and we usually follow them.

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    We all have religious principles, and we usually follow them.
    who are you to speak for the rest of us?

    we all have our own moral or immoral principles and usually follow them.

    religion is nothing more than a form of indoctrination, used since time immemorial to exert control over and gain submission from populations denied the education and freedoms to REALLY think for themselves on these matters.

    christopher hitchens book "god is not great" should be required reading for all and should replace the bible as the font of wisdom and common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Man is a religious animal per se, we all believe in some type of God. It's quite sad but we need God.
    No, 'we' do not - only dumb, illiterate people stuck in superstitious muck, with no confidence or trust in themselves 'need' a god.

    I guess the shoe fits.
    Dogmatic stimulation or obsession can manifest in numerous forms. Needn't not be invented spirituality nor religion.

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    Thanks for the link Janda, always enjoy giving Hitchens a listen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile
    we all have our own moral or immoral principles and usually follow them.

    religion is nothing more than a form of indoctrination, used since time immemorial to exert control over and gain submission from populations denied the education and
    freedoms to REALLY think for themselves on these matters.
    so what kind of God are you following ?

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    so what kind of God are you following ?
    there is no "god".

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile
    so what kind of God are you following ?
    Not this one. Heard some folks do though.


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    yes, you are correct Norton, if there is a human face to God, it's sure is Chomsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile
    there is no "god".
    of course there is,

    you might not know how it looks like, but we all know logically that it exists. I can prove it.

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    Ok, I'll bite...

    Prove it...

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    might a bit too complex for TD members to follow

    it's a great demonstration though, perfectly logical without any flaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    yes, you are correct Norton, if there is a human face to God, it's sure is Chomsky
    Unfortunately, some gather a deity of monotheistic following guised as something else. Worshiping Chomsky can be just as blindling......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile
    there is no "god".
    of course there is,

    you might not know how it looks like, but we all know logically that it exists. I can prove it.
    Yet, continuing to display the fabricated illusion of a universal absolute and standard? Logical.....?? I think not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    you might not know how it looks like, but we all know logically that it exists. I can prove it.
    Are you going to say Bill Gates?

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