NY, USA; Flag Burner Pillaried

**English Noodles** · 27-09-2009, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by blackgang

there is something about the proper way to dispose of them tho.

Quite pathetic really when you think about it though.

**English Noodles** · 27-09-2009, 07:59 PM

Talk about a bunch of weirdos.

US CODE: Title 4,8. Respect for flag

US CODE COLLECTION Title 4, Chapter 1

RESPECT FOR FLAG

No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.

(a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.

(b) The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.

(c) The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.

(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker’s desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.

(e) The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.

(f) The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling.

(g) The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.

(h) The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.

(i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.

(j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.

(k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.

**robuzo** · 27-09-2009, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog

Weren't flags burnt in the US if they had touched the ground? There was a constitutional kerfuffle about it as it was a subject that caused a lot of emotion.

Yes, at least that's what my grandfather, a decorated WWII vet and uberpatriot always used to tell us. Can't let it touch the ground.

**slackula** · 27-09-2009, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by English Noodles

The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery.

lmfao!

**Muadib** · 27-09-2009, 08:15 PM

The American flag has always be a rallying point for US troops, so desecrating this symbol in front of a VFW (Veterans of Foreign Wars) hall, I would say he got off light, regardless of the law...

**blackgang** · 27-09-2009, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by robuzo

Yes, at least that's what my grandfather, a decorated WWII vet and uberpatriot always used to tell us. Can't let it touch the ground.

Yes, that is what we were also taught, so to each his own.
But some people respect nothing, even themselves it seems,, so no news here for sure.

**MustavaMond** · 27-09-2009, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Talk about a bunch of weirdos.

US CODE: Title 4,8. Respect for flag

US CODE COLLECTION Title 4, Chapter 1
.............

(a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.

The union, meaning the field of stars has been pointing down on my property's flag since 12/ 12 /2000, the day the SCotUS handed the Presidency to Busch.

I'l right it when Congress stops taking bribes .

**blackgang** · 27-09-2009, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by MustavaMond

The union, meaning the field of stars has been pointing down on my property's flag since 12/ 12 /2000,

Sounds reasonable, but if thats your story, then By God stick to it....

**BugginOut** · 27-09-2009, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by MustavaMond

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Talk about a bunch of weirdos.

US CODE: Title 4,8. Respect for flag

US CODE COLLECTION Title 4, Chapter 1
.............

(a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.

The union, meaning the field of stars has been pointing down on my property's flag since 12/ 12 /2000, the day the SCotUS handed the Presidency to Busch.

I'l right it when Congress stops taking bribes .

Have you had any trouble from neighbors, local cops, or passersby?

..

**panama hat** · 27-09-2009, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by MustavaMond

The flag will be disposed of at a formal ceremony, Normile said.

Yes, quite odd . . .

Originally Posted by blackgang

If you do not approve of it then stay out of their town, they have sovereignty over their own town and state laws

Rubbish, as usual. They do not have sovereignty over their 'own' town

Originally Posted by pickel

I agree, but it wasn't his property to burn, it belonged to the club.

Yup, a stupid thing to do and destruction of private property . . . move along, nothing more to see here

Originally Posted by genghis61

fire away . . . expect to get shot down/burned over this one.

Nah, you'll get shot down for being another Kiwi bludger in Oz . . .

**pickel** · 28-09-2009, 04:36 AM

I can't find it, but didn't Kingwilly start a thread about amusing Blackgang quotes?

I would like to submit this one:

Originally Posted by blackgang

We has a goofy welder came to work on the Dredge in Manama Bahrain when I was there that had some screws loose and was jumping on the night boatman's ass over the flag flying at night on the tug, and he was always going on about the CIA this and that and that guys CIA,, he did have some clothing articles that were fatigue looking and some form of BDU. so I really do not now what his story was as he didn't last to long.

Is there a google translate for redneckanese?

**panama hat** · 28-09-2009, 07:59 AM

The thread was probably about buying a sandwich or something similarly completely unrelated

**blackgang** · 28-09-2009, 08:34 AM

Rubbish, as usual. They do not have sovereignty over their 'own' town

Fuk off asshole, you know nothing about the uSA except what they told you to teach at TEFL school.. what do you think a city charter is?

Is there a google translate for redneckanese?

Why did I even open this, I know just how stupid this asshole is??

I know that you boys are idiots, why not talk to DD and see if he can give you your own forum and make you stay there?

**panama hat** · 28-09-2009, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by blackgang

Fuk off asshole, you know nothing about the uSA except what they told you to teach at TEFL school.. what do you think a city charter is?

Nice language, your family must be proud of you.

A city charter does not equate to sovereignty . . . otherwise you would have the United cities of America.

TEFL school? Is there such a thing? I wouldn't know, not being a teacher, but you must be a TEFLer for foul and abusive language . . .

Care to discuss rationally?

Originally Posted by blackgang

Why did I even open this, I know just how stupid this asshole is??

Aren't we all on your ignore list, Wheezy?

**blackgang** · 28-09-2009, 09:47 AM

Care to discuss rationally?

You do happen to be capable of that.

**panama hat** · 28-09-2009, 10:09 AM

Still can't do it?

**mordred** · 28-09-2009, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Talk about a bunch of weirdos.

US CODE: Title 4,8. Respect for flag

US CODE COLLECTION Title 4, Chapter 1

RESPECT FOR FLAG

No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.

(a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.

(b) The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.

(c) The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.

(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker’s desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.

(e) The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.

(f) The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling.

(g) The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.

(h) The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.

(i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.

(j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.

(k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.

You're right:

British Flag Etiquette

British Flag etiquette is very strict and is is essential that Flag protocols and rules are followed correctly
Basic Flag Etiquette applies to all nations, including British as follows:
Etiquette relating to the order of precedence for the flag
- National Flag
- State Flag
- Military Flag(in order of creation date)
- Other Flag
The United Nations uses alphabetical order when presenting a national flag including the British Flag. Their flag etiquette ensures that no one country's flag has precedence over another country's flag
The National flag should never be flown above another national flag on the same staff as this would suggest superiority, or conversely, inferiority of one flag, or Nation, over another
The British flag should never be allowed to drag along the ground
A tattered or faded flag of British should be removed and replaced with a new flag
Due care and consideration must be taken to ensure that the British flag is always flown the correct way up
A Flag of British, when in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem of display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning in private with all due care and respect

Terminology & Etiquette in British Flag display

Hoist - the act or function of raising the British flag, as on a rope
Half Staff or Half Mast - the British flag is hoisted to half of the potential height of the flag pole to denote grief and mourning
- Performed by first raising the flag to the top, then lowering the Flag halfway
Distress - denoted by flying the British flag upside-down
Manner of hoisting - The British flag should be hoisted briskly and lowered ceremoniously
No disrespect should be shown to the British flag
The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit the Flag to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way
The British flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing on the flag of any nature
The British flag should be hoisted first and lowered last
International Flag relating to Flag usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace
We hope that the presentation of facts and information regarding British Flag Etiquette has provided a useful resource.

**FlyFree** · 28-09-2009, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by blackgang

Originally Posted by melvbot

I think Americans have a stronger bond with their flag than most. I think they do that pledge thing every day at school which seems a bit weird to me.

Yes, we do seem to, and we did say the pledge every morning, and Thai children sing the national anthem here too.

So it is how you are raised I guess.

Similar to muslim children sitting swaying back and forth while reciting the koran, brainwashing for control purposes.

**panama hat** · 28-09-2009, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by FlyFree

Similar to muslim children sitting swaying back and forth while reciting the koran, brainwashing for control purposes.

The result is the same, very good analogy.

**English Noodles** · 28-09-2009, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by blackgang

Fuk off asshole, you know nothing about the uSA except what they told you to teach at TEFL school.. what do you think a city charter is?

They do not have sovereignty over their 'own' town, if they did then it would mean that they were not under the US constitution, so what are you on about? Shit-for-brains.

**panama hat** · 28-09-2009, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Originally Posted by blackgang

Fuk off asshole, you know nothing about the uSA except what they told you to teach at TEFL school.. what do you think a city charter is?

They do not have sovereignty over their 'own' town, if they did then it would mean that they were not under the US constitution, so what are you on about? Shit-for-brains.

Tried that and got:

Originally Posted by panama hat

They do not have sovereignty over their 'own' town

Originally Posted by blackgang

Fuk off asshole, you know nothing about the uSA except what they told you to teach at TEFL school.. what do you think a city charter is?

Originally Posted by panama hat

A city charter does not equate to sovereignty . . . otherwise you would have the United cities of America.

. . . yet to receive a response one could read out to the general public

**Butterfly** · 28-09-2009, 11:29 AM

burning the American flag is fun, I don't see what's wrong with that

**English Noodles** · 28-09-2009, 11:35 AM

^And not just fun, it's educational too!

**Butterfly** · 28-09-2009, 11:53 AM

and then you can piss on it too, to stop the fire

**English Noodles** · 28-09-2009, 12:04 PM

Or our German friends may prefer shitting on it, that's just fine too! It's all good clean Euro-fun.

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