Thread: Israel defies US over settlements

Originally Posted by slackula

Originally Posted by MrG

Would much rather see Israel disarmed of it's nukes. Religeous fanatics with nuclear bombs, whether it be Iran, Pakistan or anybody make the world a dangerous place.

Agreed, 100%

I would have to include Merika on this list too... Cristian nutters who started the whole cycle of nuclear proliferation...

Problem is, for the most part the Ruskies are atheists... No moral imperative there for disarmament...

Originally Posted by Muadib

I would have to include Merika on this list too... Cristian nutters who started the whole cycle of nuclear proliferation...

I would inclued anybody on the list that has them.

Originally Posted by Muadib

Problem is, for the most part the Ruskies are atheists... No moral imperative there for disarmament...

Don't need God for a moral imperitave, just a moral imperitave. Like you said, look what the Christian Nutters have done so far.

Originally Posted by Norton

As far as Israel bombing Iran, can't believe anyone with a bit of sense would support such a move ....

The way Neville Chamberlin felt appeasing Hitler?

Originally Posted by "Muadib

I would have to include Merika on this list too... Cristian nutters who started the whole cycle of nuclear proliferation...

If memory serves me it was Hitler who first started with atoms and was getting close until US pulled some shit and came up with THE BOMB, and used it to stop a war and it has not been used since.
Now that fucking nutter in NK is liable to pop one off just anytime, as is well known, he gives a fuck for the lives of his own people and he is a short timer with pancreatic cancer and that is a pretty painful death and is damn sure terminal so he has got everything to gain, Being the first to start a war with one, and gives him a real legendary finish, and he gives a fuck how many die, which might not be so bad as there is at least twice the number of people on the face of the planet as it can support for very long.
But being fewer people would not help to much as most of the face of the planet would be HOT and unusable anyway.

Originally Posted by MrG

But then what?

then it's a balance of power, they all freeze and wait

Originally Posted by MrG

that obtaining nuclear bombs is a defensive move.

it's already the justification for Iran, and thanks to Iraq, the USA has legitimized their quest for Nuclear Weapon. They have perfectly the right to defend themselves from the perceived threat of an illegal invasion.

it would also make a lot of sense for NK to have nukes, as a balance of power in the region. Pakistan and India are too busy scaring each other so they are harmless.

Time for the US to start reducing economic aid to Israel.
Time for the EU to start a limited trade embargo with Israel too.

^
past time.

well past.

Originally Posted by chitown

They are a sovereign state and us Americans never meddle in affairs that don't concern us.

You'll find this model repeated quite often....until it becomes real and true.

^ I hope that Chitown's remark was sarcastic... If not, it is well and truly sardonic...

Originally Posted by Muadib

Originally Posted by slackula

Originally Posted by MrG

Would much rather see Israel disarmed of it's nukes. Religeous fanatics with nuclear bombs, whether it be Iran, Pakistan or anybody make the world a dangerous place.

Agreed, 100%

I would have to include Merika on this list too... Cristian nutters who started the whole cycle of nuclear proliferation...

Problem is, for the most part the Ruskies are atheists... No moral imperative there for disarmament...

Religions (all) are the problem, develop a bomb that can wipe out all traces and history of religious beliefs everywhere and Bob's your uncle. Just imagine if all the arrogant self-important twats had to accept that they in reality are no more than advanced apes? that new-found humbleness would go a long way towards peace, your tree? my tree? WTF as long as we both have a banana.

I am a raving atheist and I will venture the claim that morality based on reality and real facts of life is the only one worth having.

Originally Posted by raycarey

^
past time.

well past.

Not in your lifetime...heh..

Originally Posted by Norton

Israel has been assisted by "real" men for far too long. The ME problem persists after billions of dollars of assistance.

That wouldn't have anything to do with the rich Jews fuelling political coffers in the States, would it?

Originally Posted by larvidchr

Just imagine if all the arrogant self-important twats had to accept that they in reality are no more than advanced apes? that new-found humbleness would go a long way towards peace, your tree? my tree? WTF as long as we both have a banana.

Ah, but the problems begin when there is only one banana.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

That wouldn't have anything to do with the rich Jews fuelling political coffers in the States, would it?

Certainly a non-partisan lobby. They are willing to contribute support to both parties. Also, throw in the support from Defense companies who directly receive about $1.5 billion a year in US taxpayer funded arms sales to Israel.