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    Trees: fast growing, shade giving.

    I have 16 acres of prime isaan dirt to my name and we have pulled all the scrub and scrawny trees up. Unfortunately, the previous owner cut down some of the more substantial trees so it's looking a bit bare and bereft of shady spots.

    Are there any recommendations for a relatively fast-growing tree that will eventually provide some degree of shade and seclusion around the corner of the allotment that's being eyeballed for a home construction? I have heard reference to a 'white teak' but don't know if that's it's proper anglicized name or what. Dton Jamphi and Jampha have been mentioned but no clue what these look like. Also 'Asoke' which I think is a tall, narrow tree that's good for a 'wall' effect and wind breaks when planted close together.

    I have mango trees in my Pattaya yard that are quite large but I am not sure how long they took to get that big.

    If anyone has pictures of their recommendations, that would be a much appreciated bonus.

    Many thanks!
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    If you have ownership papers for the land, plant teak saplings for the future. They do need protecting and servicing though so you need to live nearby the land to take care of them.
    er....doesn't really solve the shade issue though. Those eucalyptus grow easily and quickly like weeds, but that's what they are; tree sized weeds, and they inhibit the growth of any productive trees.
    Also, you might want to consider a fruit tree orchard but the land would need ploughing and feeding with say, chicken shit and plenty of, before sapling planting.

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    This tree is about 2 years old I think, plenty of water as it is on the bank of the pond, must be about 6 meters tall already, nice looking tree for shade but I have no idea what it is.


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    Tree bamboo. The stuff grows about a foot a day. It must be cheap in Thailand. You can cut walkways through it and they turn into nice, shady, peaceful places.

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    Bamboo is really messy though, loads of dead leaves and bits and pieces, snakes and other nasty critters probably like it aswell

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    These are quite nice. Grow fairly quickly and get very big. No idea what they are called but are very common in the garden centres here.


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    I live in Japan and love the bamboo groves here. You can make a lot of simple things out of it too. Not sure about the snakes in Thailand though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somtamslap View Post
    These are quite nice. Grow fairly quickly and get very big. No idea what they are called but are very common in the garden centres here.

    Nice, they look like giant buds.

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    Try planting some Thakop; they have nice red berries that are sweet with lots of tiny seeds

    They grow fast, give shade and birds love the berries

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by somtamslap View Post
    These are quite nice. Grow fairly quickly and get very big. No idea what they are called but are very common in the garden centres here.

    Nice, they look like giant buds.
    These are called "Asoke" in Thailand.

    Being tall and quite thin they do not offer much shade from an overhead sun however.

    They are most often planted as a sort of screen, that said they are not very strong and quite easily blow down in a strong wind so best not to plant them near your house.

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    Excellent advice from Dr. Andy. I planted one of these trees upcountry and it has grown like a weed. I think I originally paid about B10,000 for the tree.

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    Have some of the trees the Thai Princess is involved with, HUGE leaves, I mean HUGE.
    Grow very fast, mature in 4-5 years, but I forget the name.

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    come on Ed, try harder

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    This tree is about 2 years old I think, plenty of water as it is on the bank of the pond, must be about 6 meters tall already, nice looking tree for shade but I have no idea what it is.


    This one is called 'Ton Hoo Kwang' or 'Deer's Ear Tree'. Indeed it grows like a wildfire. This does look like a young one, they spread out pretty wide as well, covering a lot of ground with shade.

    Other than providing shade in a hurry, it's utterly useless; can't use the wood for anything, and it sheds most of its leaves in the dry season, creating a mess. (At least it doesn't shed continuously throughout the year though)

    Super easy to grow.. they produce seeds that sprout up all over the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Try planting some Thakop; they have nice red berries that are sweet with lots of tiny seeds

    They grow fast, give shade and birds love the berries
    This is a good suggestions.

    Bamboo is good also, but takes a while to get established. Not messy at all, unless your into English style manicured gardens. The leaves make excellent mulch.

    You should also try some nitrogen fixing trees, these can take nitrogen from the air and store it. In the rainy season you cut them back, the trimmings just throw on the ground for fertilizer. When cut back a portion of the roots die, adding notrogen to the soil. Many are quick growing, a popular variety is Kratin, you can eat it as well.

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    I think the White Teak you are refering to is called Gmelina although i dont think thats its thai name. I saw it in Africa and was told it was introduced there from Malasia it is very fast growing provides shade and when you cut it down it regrows, i plan on planting this myself in thailand. Google will tell you more.

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    One of the fastest growing and most beautiful flowering shade trees I can think of would be Delonix regia.




    I planted a few of these in my garden 5 years ago, seedlings in little pots they were, about a meter high with a stem as thick as your thumb. Now I can't put my arms around the trunks anymore... 60 to 70 cm. in diameter. Heights vary from 9 to 12 meter and its 'footprint of shadow' is varying from 15 to 20 meter... they're huge in just 5 years!

    Delonix regia is a member of the bean family (Leguminosae) and is widely regarded as one of the most beautiful tropical trees in the world. As the trees mature, they develop broad umbrella-shaped crowns, and are often planted for their shade-giving properties. The delicate, fern-like leaves are composed of small individual leaflets, which fold up at the onset of dusk. Lovely small foliage that will 'vibrate' even with a little breeze. This tree produces brown, woody seed pods that reach lengths of up to 60 cm; they turn reddish-brown to almost black when ripe.



    Culture
 | Delonix regia is very fast growing, about 5 ft (1.5 m) per year until maturity, and tolerant of a wide range of well drained soils from acidic to alkaline and from loamy to gravelly. It's best to provide protection from strong winds.
    Light | Full sun.
    Moisture | Delonix regia is drought tolerant, but does best with regular water in the growing season and very little water in its dormant season. 

    Propagation | Propagate Delonix regia from semi-ripe tip cuttings taken in summer. Best results come with bottom heat. Seedlings vary in flower characteristics and may take 3 to 4 years to flower.

    Usage
    | Delonix regia is a spectacular shade tree in tropical climates. As a free standing specimen tree, it has no peers. Delonix regia tolerates salty conditions and can be grown near the coast, but not in openly exposed beach conditions. Delonix regia tolerates hard pruning and can be kept at a small size, and even grown in the greenhouse. I've seen bonsai versions as well...

    The big bonus, of course, is their flowers, once a year. Almost a bare tree after the 'cold' season here in Thailand, just as the new leave appear, it bursts into an almost solid mass of blossoms that can vary in color from crimson and scarlet to orange and apricot, scarlet being the most common. I'm lucky to also have a few of a rare cultivar; the yellow Delonix regia. My trees started flowering (from seed) after 4 years, some had a few clusters of blossom, others were already what I dreamed they would be. Now, at 5 years old, they are big lumps of color, not to be missed.


    Unfortunately for you the seedpods have already opened en dropped their seeds, so seeds cannot be collected right now. But if you can locate some trees, go have a look for seeds that have sprouted under the big ones. I see them here, around Chiang Mai, a lot, about 40 cm. high at the moment, hardly higher than the weeds, but you will recognize the foliage of the parent tree. Very often they are found alongside the small khlongs/canals that provide water for the farmers. Once located, a spade is all it needs to collect a few! Otherwise you will find that flower markets/nurseries will have them, you only need a few to cover a nice big area of shadow.

    And......., before anyone asks again…..

    Common name(s) |

    Carolinian: fáyárbaw, nfayarbaw
    Chamorro: arbol del fuego, arbol del fuego, atbot, atbot, atbut
    Chuukese: meei flower
    English: falsa acacia, flambouyant, flamboyant, flame tree, peacock flower, poinciana, red tree, royal ponciana
    Fijian: sekoula
    French: flamboyant, pacayer
    Hawaiian: ‘ohai ‘ula
    I-Kiribati: te kai te tua, te tau, te tua
    Indonesian: flamboyan, merak
    Maori (Cook Islands): marumaru, pātai, pū pī, puka kai, rākau tāmarumaru
    Malay: flamboyan, merak, semarak api, sepanggil
    Nauruan: bin
    Niuean: pinē
    Palauan: nangiosákura, nangyo
    Pohnpeian: pilampwoia weitahta
    Samoan: elefane, tamaligi
    Spanish: árbol del fuego, atbot det fuegu, flamboyán
    Tahitian: pakai, puke, ra‘ar marumaru
    Thai: (ton mai) hang-nok-yung
    Tongan: ‘ohai
    Tongarevan: pātai
    Tuamotuan: faefae
    Tuvaluan: fuatausaga
    Ulithian: warapig
    Yapese: sakuranirow


    More info on the Delonix regia |
    Delonix regia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Delonix regia - Royal poinciana (Fabaceae) - Plants of Hawaii - Images by Forest & Kim Starr (lots of details)

    And a yellow one |
    File:Yellow Delonix Regia.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Temp solutionis banans and you can eat them while chewing over your final selection

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    Try Paulownia (Chinese Powton) big leaves, very shady, nice purple flowers












    or Catalpa (Indian Bean tree) big leaves, very shady, nice white flowers



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    ^ Didn't realize how old the OP was until after I'd posted.

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    Didn't know that orchids grow that big.

    Beautiful flowers.

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    This is perfect for me. My whole front and side yard died in the floods. I lost a 12 year old avocado grown from seed, chompoo, jackfruit, and most of my wassana are 50/50 to make it through. I must get out and get some more. The house faces west and is now going to be 4-6 degrees hotter inside without the shade.

    I think I will get some kind of pull down curtains for my front balcony this year. I would not be able to sit outside March, April or May because of the heat.



    The only thing left alive is the small pine. The rest is dead. Shit!!!

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    Any ideas for salinated land, no trees, and limited rainfall (3 months per year)? Got a pond, and coconuts, bananas and mangoes around the pond on a 2 rai plot, but get the mai dai for every idea I come up with for the other 1 1/2 rai. Aussie trees leach the soil more and the locals only tell me monoculture some chillis. Gotta be a better way. Also got a 3 rai plot 20 mins away, but gotta wait for an uncle to finish his sugar cane crop. Got big fruit trees around the house, but need some ideas. That plot has good soil but dry with only a pond and the cane. Locals say sugar canes good but bamboo is snake city. Since they're similar I don't quite belive it. Good thread, and thx for any ideas.

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    I am facing a similar problem. I would start by asking the locals which of this list of salt tolerant trees is found in your area:


    Scientific Name, Common Name, Thai Name

    Albizia lebbeck, Siris Tree, Kase/Thone/Phruek/Thon/Chakham

    Bruguiera gymnorrhiza, Oriental Mangrove, Pang ka ha sum

    Calophyllum inophyllum, Portia Tree/Borneo Mahogany, Krathing/Nao wa kan/Saraphee neen

    Cocos nucifera, Coconut Palm, Ma prao

    Cordia subcordata, Beach Cordia, Rampon

    Gliricidia sepium, Gliricidia/Mexican Lilac, Kha farang/Kea farang

    Intsia bijuga, Borneo Teak, Lumpho thale/Pradu thale

    Pithecellobium dulce, Manila Tamarind, Ma kham thet

    Rhizophora mucronata, Red Mangrove, Phang ka

    Senna siamea, Kassod, Khi lek/Kho lek

    Terminalia catappa, Tropical Almond, Taa pang/Dat mue/Hu kwang

    Thespesia populnea, Cork Tree, Pho thale/Po kamat phrai


    The above is certainly not a complete listing of salt tolerant trees, just a few I have found reference to. I've never found a good listing. It would be good to check with the local Thai Forestry Department or University. They recognize the need for salt tolerant trees, and have been conducting research on developing salt tolerant varieties. A couple that I know are under development are:


    Samanea saman, Rain Tree, Jamjuree/Kamphu

    Azadirachta siamensis, Thai Neem, Sa dao thai/Ka dao


    Hope this helps. Good luck.

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    There is a tree called "wild cherry tree" in Thailand. They grow fast and have delicious cherries which the birds love and get to before you. Most Thai's know about the tree. There is some along Sukumvit in Bangkok. Grows to a full size tree in under two years. Somewhat messy due to flowers dropping and birds but a nice looking tree with good fruit.

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