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    Democracy Abhisit Vejjajiva style: Eliminate freedom of speech

    Democracy Abhisit Vejjajiva style: Eliminate freedom of speech

    MICT instructs ISPs to block over 60 ‘red’ websites

    Fri, 17/04/2009 - 16:01

    During the unrest this week, the Ministry of Information and Communications Technology sent e-mails to Internet Service Providers and webmasters to block websites which support the red-shirts.

    Since April 13, the Director of MICT’s Information Technology Supervision Office, Aree Jiworarak, has sent a series of emails, citing the Emergency Decree, instructing ISPs and webmasters to block websites associated with the red-shirt demonstrators, with lists of the websites attached.

    He also asks ISPs and webmasters to report back to him on their implementation, and inform him of any websites that might violate the Emergency Decree.


    Recent List of websites

    1. http://www.justin.tv/nationsiam
    2. http://www.konthai.org/
    3. http://www.thaifreenews.com/
    4. http://www.thairedshirt-democracy.org/cbox/s1.html
    5. http://www.democracytoday.tv/
    6. http://www.thaipeoplevoice.org/
    7. http://freethais.com/update_13apr09.php
    8. http://www.wered.net
    9. http://www.redplus.org/
    10. http://thaienews.blogspot.com/
    11. http://www.prachachonthai.com
    12. http://www.cbnpress.com/
    13. http://uddtoday.ning.com/
    14. http://www.thaireduk.com/
    15. http://www.nocoup.net/
    16. http://downmerng.blogspot.com/
    17. http://www.jakrapob.net/
    18. http://www.truethaksin.com/
    19. http://www.chupong.com/
    20. http://www.rednon.com
    21. http://www.chupong.org/
    22. http://www.serichon.com/
    23 http://www.nationsiam.com/
    24 http://www.gmm2008.com/index.php
    25. http://thaksin.wordpress.com/
    26. http://thaipresslog.blogspot.com/
    27. http://thaiopinions.blogspot.com/
    28. http://www.newskythailand.com
    29. http://sites.google.com/site/prachathaiclub/Home
    30. http://siamfreedom.blogspot.com/
    31. http://www.priority-radio.com/
    32. http://www.cbox.ws
    33. http://www3.cbox.ws/box/
    34. http://www.no-ip.org
    35. mms://ptv.no-ip.org/mvtv_5
    36. mms://baygon2.no-ip.org/TPV1
    37. mms://baygon2.no-ip.org/livetv
    38. mms://chupong.no-ip.org/chupong
    39. http://www.dstation.tv/
    40. http://365boxstv.com/tvonline_varietyone-link2.html
    41. www.redplusplus.com
    42. www.salidausa.com
    43. http://redplusplus.net/
    44. http://www.windowscare.in.th/index.php
    45. http://www.norporchorusa.com/
    46. http://lbsapp.freewillsolutions.com/images/usbank.com/internetBanking/CmdId/
    47. http://www.sanamluang.in.th/
    47. 61.19.241.228
    48. 61.19.241.237
    49. http://www.rednews.info/
    50. http://www.rednews.info/live/sanamluang-2.htm
    51. http://democraticthai.com/
    52. http://www.badict.2hell.com
    54. http://www.thairedusa.com/
    55. http://365boxs.com/tvonline_varietyone.html
    56. http://www.salidausa.com
    57. http://www.chupong-radio.com/
    58. http://www.arayachon.org/
    59. http://www.thairedshirt-democracy.org/
    60. http://www.khonthai.org
    61. http://www.prachachonthai.com/
    62. http://www.clubthaksin.com/
    63. http://www.shinawatradio.com/

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    How many wesites in total have been blocked since 2006 coup and how many are being blocked since Abhisit weasled his way into power?


    Abhisit Vejjajiva is proving to be no more than a nasty two faced puppet of the elite. Preventing people to use the Internet to verify the truth for themselves reeks of a system designed to keep the poor ignorant: and all with the approval from the top.

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    Pro-red websites blocked, radio stations raided


    By Thaweeporn Kummetha
    The Nation

    Published on April 17, 2009

    Since the state of emergency was put in effect on Sunday, more than 60 pro-Thaksin Shinawatra websites have been blocked and the offices of community radio stations in three provinces and that of satellite TV channel D-Station raided.

    Police yesterday raided the offices of D-Station on Lat Phrao road and the offices of community radio stations in Udon Thani, Chiang Mai and Lampang as per orders from the Emergency Execution Command (EEC), the agency involved with handling the country under the Emergency Decree.

    In following the EEC order, the Information Technology Regulation Office gave Internet service providers a list of 67 websites it deemed as instigating insurrection to block since Monday evening, said Aree Jiwararak, director of the Information Technology Regulation Office.

    The websites that have been blocked include Sameskybooks.org, Newskythailand.com and Sericon.com. On some sites only the content was blocked, while some could not be accessed at all.

    Asked if the blockades would be cancelled if the emergency were to be lifted, Aree said he had to consult with the prime minister before doing anything.

    Supinya Klangnarong, a media rights activist, said people should not be blocked from expressing their opinions online because mainstream media had lost its credibility in providing unbiased reports.

    "If the government threatens online liberty, that would boomerang back. The government should allow Internet to be the space where people can freely search for information they want and express what they think. If not, the things could get more severe," Supinya said.

    Thanapon Eiwsakul, owner of the blocked Sameskybooks.org, said the government could not really block any websites as such, because people could find ways in anyway. Moreover, censoring might make people believe in fake reports.

    "Since people could not use the Internet to verify the truth for themselves, they would be vulnerable to believing rumours that might not be true," Thanapon said.

    .........


    Just imagine the uproar if the Yellow shirt media were shutdown.
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    Careful. Next some posters will accuse you of posting cut and paste drivel.

    Some can't handle the truth.

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    555, I am sure they will

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    This gov is based on bare brute force and shameless lying , they have no other chance but censorship to cover their crimes and mass murders.

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    have they threatened to cut off advertising to the newspapers yet if they don't toe the party line ?

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    He'll be firing editors and buying independent TV stations and sacking all the staff next.

    PS: Is there a smiley for 'circle jerk'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repubblicano View Post
    This gov is based on bare brute force and shameless lying , they have no other chance but censorship to cover their crimes and mass murders.
    Difficult to maintain in the internet age...

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    have they threatened to cut off advertising to the newspapers yet if they don't toe the party line ?
    That was the M.O. of old squarehead himself. It lead to a lot of "self-censorship" by the Bangkok media; something they still loathe him for..

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart
    That was the M.O. of old squarehead himself.
    yes , but he had the mandate of the people from his democratic election which meant that the people wanted him to censor anything critical of him that might smear the reputation his spin doctors had expensively crafted - the supporters might know that he didn't give a sh1t about them at all and was instead more concerned about his smart business machinations with state power and money behind them.
    If you torture data for enough time , you can get it to say what you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gjbkk View Post
    How many wesites in total have been blocked since 2006 coup and how many are being blocked since Abhisit weasled his way into power?
    How many have been blocked and censored by the Shinawatra regimes -- Thaksin, Samak, and Somchai?

    Go ahead - share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kmart
    That was the M.O. of old squarehead himself.
    yes , but he had the mandate of the people from his democratic election which meant that the people wanted him to censor anything critical of him that might smear the reputation his spin doctors had expensively crafted - the supporters might know that he didn't give a sh1t about them at all and was instead more concerned about his smart business machinations with state power and money behind them.
    Yes, but that was okay back then - right? I mean, if Thaksin did it, it's nearly as if Buddha did so, and thus it's beyond reproach, and legitimate and just by default -- I mean, that's what gjbkk is implying...

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    I see Chuwat Rerksirisuk had the balls to publish an article from the The Economist yesterday >>

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    Given that those stations and websites were inciting people to violence and terrorism and advocated the overthrow of the government what do you expect the government to do? They have abused their freedom of speech and committed treason, they should accept the consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BKKBoet
    Given that those stations and websites were inciting people to violence and terrorism and advocated the overthrow of the government what do you expect the government to do?
    I am very curious as to why one militant pro-taksin website/board has not been blocked.

    Not sure if it is wise to post the url here so PM me if you want it.
    It is only in thai.

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    Ah

    The anti-Thaksin brigade out in full swing.

    They must have a real problem here. The only thing to justify their own position ist the boring


    THAKSIN IS EVIL

    so everything that works against him is justified, no matter how brutal and repressive.

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    agree

    their posts are not worth reading so I have most of them on my ignore list

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    They seem to argue that because Thaksin interfered with the media then it's ok for Abhisit to be shutting down websites en masse, arresting people and handing down severe sentences for Lese Majeste and spending millions of taxpayers' money on 'war rooms' to monitor the internet.

    Heck, they'll excuse anything this government does because they think Thaksin is the devil.

    Facts of the matter are that the Junta and this subsequent puppet government have been far more eager and willing to censor the media. Indeed, Thailand's press freedom index has tumbled since 2006 as just one example.

    What government would announce that prosecuting Lese Majeste was their priority given the economic and political problems Thailand faces?

    Waken up people. Killian is lying to you.
    Mortals you defy the Gods, I sentence you to travel among unknown stars, until you find the Kingdom of Hades, your bodies will stay as lifeless as stone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BKKBoet
    Given that those stations and websites were inciting people to violence and terrorism and advocated the overthrow of the government what do you expect the government to do? They have abused their freedom of speech and committed treason, they should accept the consequences.
    Would the military and PAD accept the consequences of their treasonous acts?

    Or are military coups against elected administrations now not considered treason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorTud View Post
    They seem to argue that because Thaksin interfered with the media then it's ok for Abhisit to be shutting down websites en masse, arresting people and handing down severe sentences for Lese Majeste and spending millions of taxpayers' money on 'war rooms' to monitor the internet.

    Heck, they'll excuse anything this government does because they think Thaksin is the devil.

    Facts of the matter are that the Junta and this subsequent puppet government have been far more eager and willing to censor the media. Indeed, Thailand's press freedom index has tumbled since 2006 as just one example.

    What government would announce that prosecuting Lese Majeste was their priority given the economic and political problems Thailand faces?

    Waken up people. Killian is lying to you.
    And interestingly enough when Thaksin attacked the media they fought back tooth and nail. This time most of them (with some honourable exceptions) queued up to show their bellies and be muzzled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorTud View Post
    They seem to argue that because Thaksin interfered with the media then it's ok for Abhisit to be shutting down websites en masse, arresting people and handing down severe sentences for Lese Majeste and spending millions of taxpayers' money on 'war rooms' to monitor the internet.

    .
    Its called ' The two wrongs make it alright ' theory. Justifying the govournments over zealous crackdowns and sensorship by saying that Thaksin started it. Surely if Aphisit wants to prove his superior statesmanship it should be by setting an example not by copying Thaksin all the time.

    The blind hatred of Thaksin is being used to usher in something far worse. Cutting of the nose to spite the face is the way things are heading at the moment. Thailand needs more freedom, not less. More democracy , not less

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gjbkk View Post
    How many wesites in total have been blocked since 2006 coup and how many are being blocked since Abhisit weasled his way into power?
    How many have been blocked and censored by the Shinawatra regimes -- Thaksin, Samak, and Somchai?

    Go ahead - share.
    During the time I've worked for Internet Services providers in Thailand, a time which includes Thaksin's stints as prime minister, I received no orders to block any websites for political reasons. Many were blocked because of pornography, gambling, or extreme insults to the royals but none because they disagreed with government's stance on anything. Since the time of the CNS I have received orders to block almost 1,000 websites for political reasons, many of them issued under the cyber-crimes law, a law created by the coup-makers and which didn't exist under the Thaksin regimes. I have several years worth of blocking orders here at my desk so if you can show that the Thaksin governments have blocked more websites for political reasons (not LM, not porn, not gambling) than the CNS and their puppets then please name them for us.
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    Personally I think that trying to stop the violence is a good idea, maybe a warning first...then closure...trying to overthrow the government just cos some mandranian wants his cash back, really shouldn't warrant such behaviour as we have seen for the last 4-5mths.

    Could you see this happening in other countries...I believe that it would and probably quicker than it's happend here.

    How can a convicted fugative call on people, whilst residing in another country to go to war with the current government 'however it got in to power' and contiune to get away with it?? This would've been blocked by most countries in the world just in a more clandestine way.

    Glad that his passport has been revoked he may at last be able to come back to his beloved country to face charges and imprisonment...FINALLY.

    So but that's my HO'

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    Quote Originally Posted by gjbkk
    Since people could not use the Internet to verify the truth for themselves, they would be vulnerable to believing rumours that might not be true," Thanapon said.
    yes, everything you read on the net is TRUE

    there are no rumours or lies posted there

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gjbkk
    Since people could not use the Internet to verify the truth for themselves, they would be vulnerable to believing rumours that might not be true," Thanapon said.
    yes, everything you read on the net is TRUE

    there are no rumours or lies posted there

    Link?
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