Man Attempts to Set Off Explosives on Northwest Airlines Plane

**baldrick** · 27-12-2009, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by zubber

what will they do when they hide the explosives in their rectum ?

they will blow it out their arse of course.

Originally Posted by chitown

Seems the US was safer before that wimpy Obama got in the White House. That makes two terrorist attacks since he got in office. I guess the Mussies know who they can muscle without the fear of retaliation.

yep , not long before that sand nigger hijacks air force 1 and dive bombs it into a church full of kittens singing hymns, eating big macs and watching oprah on television.

**Propagator** · 27-12-2009, 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by keda

Let's hope the knee-jerks (sic) don't now go overboard by banning harmless chemicals in all three states, including those that can be purchased in any supermarket and combined with other as harmless chemicals to bring down an airliner.

Probably be a noticed increase in airport security again, only takes one prat to fcuk it up for the rest.

It would not surprise me to see three seperate check in times now, lets hope not

Domestic - 2 hrs before departure
International - 3 hrs before departure
International to USA - 4 hrs before departure

**Mr Earl** · 27-12-2009, 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by taxexile

should be one airline for muslims and one airline for non muslims.

..... and yes, he is a muslim.

Dirty racist Islamophobe! Don't you foking know Islam is a the religion of peace.

**Mr Earl** · 27-12-2009, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by chitown

That makes two terrorist attacks since he got in office.

Ft Hood isn't being treated as a terrorist attack according to the FBI. It has characterized now as a "horrific out burst of violence".
Times have changed from all that nasty George W. Bush hate mongering against Muslims.

**chitown** · 27-12-2009, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Originally Posted by chitown

That makes two terrorist attacks since he got in office.

Ft Hood isn't being treated as a terrorist attack according to the FBI. It has characterized now as a "horrific out burst of violence".
Times have changed from all that nasty George W. Bush hate mongering against Muslims.

For some reason

, Obama is so afraid to say the word terrorist. If Osama Bin Laden parked a van full of explosives in front of building he would scream illegal parking violation.

**S Landreth** · 27-12-2009, 07:18 AM

WASHINGTON -- A 23-year-old Nigerian man was charged Saturday with trying to destroy a Northwest Airlines flight with a powerful explosive device attached to his body as the jetliner approached the Detroit airport on Christmas Day.

When Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab set off the device he sparked a fire instead of an explosion, according to an affidavit filed in federal court in Detroit.

Passengers told federal investigators that Abdulmutallab went to the bathroom for about 20 minutes. When he returned to his seat, he said he had an upset stomach and pulled a blanket over him. Passengers then heard a popping noise, similar to a firecracker. They smelled an odor and some passengers saw Abdulmutallab's pant leg and the wall of the airplane on fire.

A passenger told federal investigators that Abdulmutallab was holding a partially melted syringe that was smoking.

A preliminary analysis of the device shows that it contained PETN, also known as pentaerythritol. Convicted shoe bomber Richard Reid used this material when he tried to destroy a trans-Atlantic flight in 2001 with explosives hidden in his shoes.

One law enforcement official told The Associated Press that the suspect had used a condom or condom-like bag to hide the PETN near his genitals. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.

Link: http://www.miamiherald.com/692/story/1399151.html

**taxexile** · 27-12-2009, 07:30 AM

Airline bomber was barred from Britain

Former student Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, who allegedly attempted to blow up US jet, had UK visa request refused in May

Abdul Umar Mutallab pictured in 2004 on a Duke of Edinburgh Award test in Togo.

David Leppard and Chris Gourlay

div#related-article-links p a, div#related-article-links p a:visited {color:#06c;} THE son of a prominent Nigerian banker, who allegedly attempted to blow up a transatlantic flight over America, was barred from returning to Britain earlier this year.
Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, 23, graduated from a university in London last year but his visa request was refused in May when he attempted to apply for a new course at a bogus college.
Abdulmutallab, described as a devout Muslim, attempted to ignite an explosive device on a plane from Amsterdam to Detroit on Christmas Day after shouting about Afghanistan.Bomb materials had apparently been sewn into his underwear, an authoritative American report said.
The incident led to increased security at UK airports and delays of up to five hours for passengers in Britain yesterday.

For the past two years Abdulmutallab has been on a United States watchlist for people known to have extremist links, but he was not prevented from flying to America. UK officials indicated that he had passed across MI5’s radar but was not deemed sufficiently threatening to warrant surveillance.
Abdulmutallab began his journey in Nigeria and then changed planes in Amsterdam. Peter King, a Republican congressman, claimed he did not go through full-body image screening at either airport.
All airlines flying to America have now imposed heightened security, including “pat-down” checks for all passengers and a hand luggage check at the gate.
Abdulmutallab was from a privileged background. His father, Dr Alhaji Umaru Mutallab, was until recently the head of First Bank of Nigeria and had been a government minister during the 1970s.
Abdulmutallab studied engineering for three years at University College London. His father said yesterday that he had lost contact with his son after he left London in November last year.
He attempted to return to Britain for a six-month course in May this year but was refused by officials from the UK Border Agency.
“He was refused entry on grounds that he was applying to study at an educational establishment that we didn’t consider to be genuine,” a Whitehall official said.

**taxexile** · 27-12-2009, 07:41 AM

double post.

**chitown** · 27-12-2009, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by taxexile

Dr Alhaji Umaru Mutallab, was until recently the head of First Bank of Nigeria

Wait, I know this guy. He is always sending me emails about millions of dollars I am entitled to in an unclaimed inheritance.

**taxexile** · 27-12-2009, 08:04 AM

Is there an atheist/agnostic airline?

until the radical islam minority is alienated, shunned and disowned by the middle of the road islam majority, and the middle of the roaders convincingly express their desire and wish to integrate with the communities they live in and to reject extremists and their views, i would think a complete separation of islam and the rest of the world would be better for us all.

all we hear from them is a deafening silence, as extremists are free to shout, scream, terrorise and bomb the rest of us with their threats and medieval pronouncements.

it is a nasty and dangerous philosophy they preach and sadly, they are not confronted by their own people nor are they challenged often enough by the politically correct west, who receive them with their inane simpering and their patronising "inclusiveness" and multiculturality.

we are allowing a mighty and dangerous rod to be made for our own backs.

**Marmite the Dog** · 27-12-2009, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by chitown

First Fort Hood and now this. Seems the US was safer before that wimpy Obama got in the White House. That makes two terrorist attacks since he got in office. I guess the Mussies know who they can muscle without the fear of retaliation. They were afraid of the Bush / Cheney duo!

Are you on drugs?

Also, why should all muslims be banned from flying? Surely it would be better to just stop all Nigerians from leaving Nigeria?

**taxexile** · 27-12-2009, 08:15 AM

Hatred is the mother of invention

sunday times

The underwear bomber shows how extremists will find new ways to beat airport

The attack on a Northwest Airlines flight on Christmas Day appears to be the latest twist in a form of terrorism that has been evolving ever since the 9/11 atrocity.
Since the twin towers of New York were destroyed in 2001, terrorists have tried to stay one step ahead of airline security in finding ways to destroy planes, from hiding bombs in their shoes — or, as last week, in their underwear — to carrying them inside their bodies.
Norman Shanks, former head of security at BAA, the airports operator, said: “September 11 was the birth of suicide bombers on planes. Up until that point the idea was that they would attack and live to attack again. Today lives are more disposable.”
In the immediate aftermath of 9/11, many of the security steps taken by airlines concentrated on securing planes from terrorists carrying knives to hijack a plane in the manner of the September 11 gang.

Cockpits were sealed off and passengers forbidden from carrying blades on planes.
The first attempt to use an alternative method — still apparently with suicide in mind — came just three months after the September 11 bombings. Richard Reid boarded a flight from Paris to Miami in December 2001 wearing a pair of ankle boots packed with plastic explosives.
Two and a half hours into the flight he took off the boots and quietly prayed, before trying to detonate the bombs.

He struggled to do so and after lighting six matches he found he had inadvertently melted the fuses attached to the plastic explosives hidden in the hollowed-out soles of the boots. An FBI reconstruction of what would have happened if Reid’s bomb had detonated showed that the blast would have blown a hole in the aircraft and caused catastrophic damage. Everyone on board would have died.

Unlike the privileged Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the banker’s son and University College London graduate charged with attempting to bomb the Amsterdam-Detroit flight, Reid was a petty crook who grew up in Bromley, south London. He had a disaffected childhood and became a disciple of Osama Bin Laden after being introduced to Islam at the Feltham young offenders’ institution in west London.

Since 9/11 two such attacks have been successful. In August 2004 two Chechen women, who had lost their husbands in the region’s war with Russia, blew themselves up on two planes near Moscow, killing 90 people. Investigators discovered traces of hexogen, a type of explosive previously used by Chechen bombers, in the wreckage.

In 2006 would-be suicide bombers changed their tack. A gang of British Muslim extremists plotted to blow up seven transatlantic aircraft using liquid explosives. They were arrested in August 2006 before they could carry out the attack; three of them have since been jailed.

One of the growing threats facing airline security is bombs carried inside the body, which may be able to evade conventional scanners.

In August an Al-Qaeda militant passed through several airport security checks with a bomb hidden in his rectum.
After taking two flights he detonated the device at the private palace of his target, a prominent Saudi prince. The blast blew the bomber to pieces and left his arm embedded in the ceiling but failed to kill his target.

Security officials admit there is little screening technology available to stop people hiding bombs in bodily orifices. “It’s one of the industry’s biggest concerns,” said a source.
Friday’s failed terrorist attack also bears similarities to an incident in China. During the run-up to the Beijing Olympics in March 2008, Guzalinur Turdi, 19, was arrested on a China Southern Airlines flight after crew members smelt petrol on her as she left the lavatory.
They found a drinks can containing flammable liquid in a bin in the lavatory. The drink had been replaced with the liquid using a syringe. Chinese authorities say Turdi has since confessed.

Abdulmutallab’s choice of a bottle to carry his explosives shows that the techniques used to tackle this method of attack are still inadequate.

Scanners under development include one that can analyse the contents of liquids being carried. One of the most advanced types of machine, the x-ray full body scanner, has been installed at Schiphol, from where Abdulmutallab took off, although he did not pass through it. They have also been trialled at Heathrow and Manchester airports, although no decision has yet been made on whether to install them as standard at British airports.

Concerns have been raised that they could infringe passengers’ privacy by making them appear naked.

Philip Baum, editor of Aviation Security International, said: “The events of September 11 brought the risk of suicide bombings home to the authorities. In certain parts of the Middle East people are lining up to be martyrs for their cause so it’s perfectly understandable, albeit shocking, that people in the UK might have similar beliefs.”

Professor Paul Wilkinson, a terrorism specialist at St Andrews University, said of last week’s incident: “This case reminds me of the shoe bomber. The fact he has managed to get his leg on fire after getting through security is surprising.

“Big questions will have to be asked about airport security if this was a sophisticated device.”
Additional reporting: Olivia Paterson

**keda** · 27-12-2009, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by kingwilly

to be honest this 'attack' seems more like a mentally impaired fellow, than a terrorist mastermind...

How honest, real honest or as honest as a big knob?

Did it ever cross your mind that 'terrorist masterminds' don't go on planes with destination Allah? Probably not.

**Slipstream** · 27-12-2009, 09:42 AM

Well this plane gimp could of made things a lot worse.
At least he didn't manage to pull off bringing the plane down, it was coming into land as he tried to detonate.

What concerns me more is what golden gordon was saying in response about 'doing whatever is necessary' more, security, more regulation, increased cost of flying to pay for it!

**keda** · 27-12-2009, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Propagator

Originally Posted by keda

Let's hope the knee-jerks (sic) don't now go overboard by banning harmless chemicals in all three states, including those that can be purchased in any supermarket and combined with other as harmless chemicals to bring down an airliner.

Probably be a noticed increase in airport security again, only takes one prat to fcuk it up for the rest.

It would not surprise me to see three seperate check in times now, lets hope not

Domestic - 2 hrs before departure
International - 3 hrs before departure
International to USA - 4 hrs before departure

They haven't figured out quite yet that airport security is good for passenger morale, but they can employ, train and deploy security on a 1-to-1 ratio with passengers and still wouldn't deter a determined terrorist from trying, or prevent him from achieving his objective.

Good thing about recent times is that plane hijackings are virtually a thing of the past. No more 'take me to Cuba', and passengers will be forgiven for no longer trusting Arab-looking gentlemen to barter them back to civilisation.

**keda** · 27-12-2009, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Originally Posted by chitown

That makes two terrorist attacks since he got in office.

Ft Hood isn't being treated as a terrorist attack according to the FBI. It has characterized now as a "horrific out burst of violence".
Times have changed from all that nasty George W. Bush hate mongering against Muslims.

Let's hope the black guy doesn't organise another beerfest at the WH to deflect from his latest hair-trigger lips. Only this time he's not a newbie, it is no longer blasphemy to question him or his motives, and more eyes will be opened to the brazen US-hating demotard POTUS which the Jew-controlled media lied, cheated and fooled the people into electing.

**taxexile** · 27-12-2009, 09:59 AM

It would not surprise me to see three seperate check in times now, lets hope not

based on surnames might be a better way? ....... i make no apologies whatsoever for saying " i hope so"

**keda** · 27-12-2009, 10:01 AM

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**Muadib** · 27-12-2009, 10:02 AM

The answer is quite simple, but expensive... Simply implement a body scanner at all security checkpoints...

In Colombia they use X-ray machines for any passenger that fits a specific profile... Oh shock & horror, someone's 'rights' are being violated for 1, being profiled and 2, using an invasive device to assure the passenger is of no threat to themselves, other passengers or the aircraft itself... It will soon come to this as security will have no other option besides strip / body cavity searches on all passengers...

**Muadib** · 27-12-2009, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by taxexile

It would not surprise me to see three seperate check in times now, lets hope not

based on surnames might be a better way? ....... i make no apologies whatsoever for saying " i hope so"

But-but-but, isn't that racist???

**keda** · 27-12-2009, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by chitown

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Originally Posted by chitown

That makes two terrorist attacks since he got in office.

Ft Hood isn't being treated as a terrorist attack according to the FBI. It has characterized now as a "horrific out burst of violence".
Times have changed from all that nasty George W. Bush hate mongering against Muslims.

For some reason

, Obama is so afraid to say the word terrorist. If Osama Bin Laden parked a van full of explosives in front of building he would scream illegal parking violation.

About sums it up!

**keda** · 27-12-2009, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by chitown

Originally Posted by taxexile

Dr Alhaji Umaru Mutallab, was until recently the head of First Bank of Nigeria

Wait, I know this guy. He is always sending me emails about millions of dollars I am entitled to in an unclaimed inheritance.

Quite right too he is to give it away, the poor misunderstander of Islam doesn't need money when he's sitting on Allah's lap.

**keda** · 27-12-2009, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by Muadib

The answer is quite simple, but expensive... Simply implement a body scanner at all security checkpoints...

In Colombia they use X-ray machines for any passenger that fits a specific profile... Oh shock & horror, someone's 'rights' are being violated for 1, being profiled and 2, using an invasive device to assure the passenger is of no threat to themselves, other passengers or the aircraft itself... It will soon come to this as security will have no other option besides strip / body cavity searches on all passengers...

Never!

Officials now say tragedy was only averted on Northwest flight 253 because a makeshift detonator failed to work properly.

Bomb experts say there was more than enough explosive to bring down the Northwest jet, which had nearly 300 people aboard, had the detonator not failed, and the nation's outdated airport screening machines may need to be upgraded.

"We've known for a long time that this is possible," said Richard Clarke, former counterterrorism czar and ABC News consultant, "and that we really have to replace our scanning devices with more modern systems."

Clarke said full body scans were needed, "but they're expensive and they're intrusive. They invade people's privacy."

Al Qaeda, said Clarke, is aware of this vulnerability in the U.S. airport security system. "They know that this is a weakness and an Achilles' heel in our airport security system and this is the second time they've tried it."

Northwest Flight Saved by Failed Detonator - ABC News

What happens next time, when the big knob's 'terrorist masterminds' figure out that they've been highly successful in evading security so far, but it would help if they were use material that actually works?

Clarke said full body scans were needed, "but they're expensive and they're intrusive. They invade people's privacy."

Hit the nail on the head, ain't he! The vocal anti-everything-decent lefties would rather common sense be suspended as planes fall out of the sky, than anyone has their sensibilities hurt via privacy invasion or infringements of human rights.

Oh yes, as long as they're not on those involuntary landings. Much like a recent thread that started off a (nother!) shitfest, when I dared to post the truth that the very moralists who would turn savage in protecting their own children, would find perfectly valid reasons to stand by and tutt as other people's children are being killed.

Cowardly apologists one and all, that cannot live with the fact that their worlds are imperfect. Oh dear.

**keda** · 27-12-2009, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Muadib

Originally Posted by taxexile

It would not surprise me to see three seperate check in times now, lets hope not

based on surnames might be a better way? ....... i make no apologies whatsoever for saying " i hope so"

But-but-but, isn't that racist???

Not just racist but profiling and therefore a strict no-no. The pc West has been cornered into having to devote its limited resources to targeting both and equally, those more statistically likely and unlikely to be in Allah's pay. Go figure!

**Muadib** · 27-12-2009, 10:42 AM

What's more expensive... Implementing body scanners -or- the cost of an(other) airliner going down and the insurance claims paid to families of all passengers who die in the next attack... Unfortunately, it all comes down to $$$...

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