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    Tate Modern Removes Naked Brooke Shields at Age 10 Pic

    Tate Modern removes naked Brooke Shields picture after police visit | Art and design | guardian.co.uk





    Tate Modern removes naked Brooke Shields picture after police visit

    Gallery takes down photo of actor when she was 10, made-up and nude, after advice from Met's obscene publications squad





    A detail from the original photograph of Brooke Shields by Gary Gross, which Richard Prince used in his artwork displayed at the Tate. Photograph: Gary Gross

    A display due to go on show to the public at Tate Modern tomorrow has been withdrawn after a warning from Scotland Yard that the naked image of actor Brooke Shields aged 10 and heavily made up could break obscenity laws.
    The work, by American artist Richard Prince and entitled Spiritual America, was due to be part of the London gallery's new Pop Life exhibition . It has been removed from display after a visit to Tate Modern by officers from the obscene publications unit of the Metropolitan police.
    The exhibition had been open to members of the Tate today before opening to the public tomorrow. A Tate spokeswoman confirmed that the display had been "temporarily closed down" and the catalogue for the exhibition withdrawn from sale. The work had been accompanied by a warning, and the Tate had sought legal advice before displaying it.
    The decision by officers to visit Tate Modern is understood to have been made after police chiefs saw coverage of the exhibition in today's newspapers, rather than as a result of complaints.
    Officers met gallery bosses and are also understood to have consulted the Crown Prosecution Service as to whether the image broke obscenity laws.
    A Scotland Yard source said the actions of its officers were "common sense" and were taken to pre-empt any breach of the law. The source said the image of Shields was of potential concern because it was of a 10-year-old, and could be viewed as sexually provocative.
    The work has been shown recently in New York, without attracting major controversy, where it gave the title to the 2007 retrospective of Prince's work at the Guggenheim Museum.
    The Pop Life exhibition also includes works from Jeff Koons's series Made in Heaven, large-scale photographic images that depict the artist and the porn model La Cicciolina having sexual intercourse.
    There are also works by Cosey Fanni Tutti, who, as part of her artistic practice, worked as a porn and glamour model in the 1970s and then displayed some of the resulting images in an exhibition at the ICA in 1976.
    Spiritual America is a photograph of a photograph. The original – authorised by Shields's mother for $450 – had been taken by a commercial photographer, Gary Gross, for the Playboy publication Sugar 'n' Spice in 1976. Shields later attempted, unsuccessfully, to suppress the picture.
    Prince used the image as the source material for his own 1983 piece; he placed it in a gilt frame and displayed it, without labelling or explanation, in a shopfront in a then rundown street in Lower East Side, New York. The title comes from a photograph by Alfred Stieglitz from 1923 of a gelded horse.
    Prince has described the image as resembling "a body with two different sexes, maybe more, and a head that looks like it's got a different birthday."
    In an essay in the exhibition catalogue Jack Bankowsky, co-curator of the exhibition, describes the image as of "a bath-damp and decidedly underage Brooke Shields … When Prince invites us to ogle Brooke Shields in her prepubescent nakedness, his impulse has less to do with his desire to savour the lubricious titillations that it was shot to spark in its original context … than with a profound fascination for the child star's story."
    The Metropolitan police said: "Officers from the obscene publications unit met with staff at Tate Modern … The officers have specialist experience in this field and are keen to work with gallery management to ensure that they do not inadvertently break the law or cause any offence to their visitors."



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    oo er what about all those Rubens nudes and other filthy painters work filling the London galleries? Are photographs different from painting nude models. What about that dirty bastard who used to do all the ballet dancers and made a statue modeling a naked 14 year old dancer whore, Degas that was him the dirty French pig should have been locked up what!

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    Well at least the pedos won`t have this pic of a 10 year old to drool over.

    It`s nothing more than child exploitation and if it was her mother who allowed it to be taken then she should be ashamed of herself.

    Bad judgement by the Tate in the first place.

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    should Degas Ballet dancer be burned then? those pedos are just everywhere aint they, or so some would have us believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy dog View Post
    should Degas Ballet dancer be burned then? those pedos are just everywhere aint they, or so some would have us believe.
    Degas paintings of ballet dancers circa late 19th century my friend are certainly not the same thing as a 10 years old totally naked girl made up to look much older and photographed in the modern era.

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    Over-reaction by a terrified nation - one in which phaedopiles lurk on every corner, are grooming one's child on the internet, and are diddlyling them on the drive to school.

    Brooke Shields starkers at 10, whether in stills or in 'Pretty Baby' is not subverting the population, and for those it does subvert, they are more likely to look at the (est) 250 million pages of online porn for whatever floats their boat, rather than go and drop their trousers at the Tate Gallery and wank over the gallery floor.

    For the police to say their act is 'common sense' is just increasing the paranoia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bretby View Post
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    should Degas Ballet dancer be burned then? those pedos are just everywhere aint they, or so some would have us believe.
    Degas paintings of ballet dancers circa late 19th century my friend are certainly not the same thing as a 10 years old totally naked girl made up to look much older and photographed in the modern era.

    I refer to the Ballet Dancer sculpture oddly done in wax originally and from the naked life modeling of a 14 year old. When it was first displayed the critics and public were outraged at this depiction of an obvious child prostitute. Thinking the way these barbarians who took away the Shields photo, pedos have been drooling over the Ballet Dancer for over a hundred years and hundreds of Bronze reproductions are sold every year, no doubt to pedos. Dont forget to look under your bed, these perverts are everywhere just waititng to drool.

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    Fair point, bretby.

    But thats real, real nasty underclass life. And shame on Sky News for tanking on reporting the details of the offences. They should have printed. Its an authentic issue.

    This Brooke Shields hoohah is not

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    It's illegal to take naked pics of your own kids now in the uk not sure about babies in the nude on a rug, absolutely filthy of course. Also many Schools ban parents of taking pics of their own kids at events like sports days and xmas plays, just in case, well you cant be too caefull can you. Country has gone mad with protection worries but lets parents batter their own kids to death quite regularly, odd that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy dog View Post
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    should Degas Ballet dancer be burned then? those pedos are just everywhere aint they, or so some would have us believe.
    Degas paintings of ballet dancers circa late 19th century my friend are certainly not the same thing as a 10 years old totally naked girl made up to look much older and photographed in the modern era.

    I refer to the Ballet Dancer sculpture oddly done in wax originally and from the naked life modeling of a 14 year old. When it was first displayed the critics and public were outraged at this depiction of an obvious child prostitute. Thinking the way these barbarians who took away the Shields photo, pedos have been drooling over the Ballet Dancer for over a hundred years and hundreds of Bronze reproductions are sold every year, no doubt to pedos. Dont forget to look under your bed, these perverts are everywhere just waititng to drool.
    Oh that one which never looked very realistic anyway. Didn`t he later provide clothes for it? Certainly not the same as an actual lifelike contemporary photograph of a completely naked 10 year old girl.

    Unfortunately there are many pedos about and I guess they would just love to see these sort of pictures.

    I certainly along with most other decent folk would not like to see fully naked photographs of 10 year old girls on public display.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy dog View Post
    It's illegal to take naked pics of your own kids now in the uk not sure about babies in the nude on a rug, absolutely filthy of course. Also many Schools ban parents of taking pics of their own kids at events like sports days and xmas plays, just in case, well you cant be too caefull can you. Country has gone mad with protection worries but lets parents batter their own kids to death quite regularly, odd that.
    Are you fecking kidding me?? And America get's bashed here all the time for our over reactions and protectionist laws... Fortunately we aren't that bad yet.. Not even allowed to take pictures of my kids at their event's? That would bring out my bad side in a hurry...

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy dog
    It's illegal to take naked pics of your own kids now in the uk
    Bullshit.

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    Very informative and intelligent contribution there Marmite.There has to be something wrong with anybody who considers any photographic depiction of a naked child as pornographic and who automatically thinks that any such image is a magnet for the dreaded pedos.
    Under UK law, an image of a naked child is usually considered child pornography the context is irrelevant. In a strict legal sense, this censorship is justified, the problem is the law itself, which should not define nudity as "pornography". The frequently used term "child abuse images" is used to invoke strong emotions and discredit those who disagree with the current laws.

    If you think you can breeze into a UK photo shop and hand in naked shots of a ten year old (lets say) daughter and not get a visit form the Police, then go ahead and try it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy dog View Post
    Very informative and intelligent contribution there Marmite.There has to be something wrong with anybody who considers any photographic depiction of a naked child as pornographic
    Undressed children, are endangering the fabric of our society....nay. our very civilization itself.

    Those who have eaten from the tree of knowledge know that the human form is dirty and provocative.

    If you haven't eaten the forbidden fruit, you wouldn't know, so like shaddup, and put your trousers on.



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    it wasn't that long ago that those cartoon pictures of the simpsons were considered child porn in Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy dog View Post
    ... Under UK law, an image of a naked child is usually considered child pornography the context is irrelevant...

    If you think you can breeze into a UK photo shop and hand in naked shots of a ten year old (lets say) daughter and not get a visit form the Police, then go ahead and try it.
    Just out of interest, but what sort of 'context' would be appropriate for taking pics of a naked 10yr old?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy dog
    What about that dirty bastard who used to do all the ballet dancers and made a statue modeling a naked 14 year old dancer whore, Degas that was him the dirty French pig should have been locked up what!
    I suppose you mean this one:



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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by crazy dog View Post
    ... Under UK law, an image of a naked child is usually considered child pornography the context is irrelevant...

    If you think you can breeze into a UK photo shop and hand in naked shots of a ten year old (lets say) daughter and not get a visit form the Police, then go ahead and try it.
    Just out of interest, but what sort of 'context' would be appropriate for taking pics of a naked 10yr old?

    A nudist colony on a family holiday at the Cap D'Age
    Sploshing around in the bathtub at home with a 6 month old sibling
    School changing room, taken by herself on her iPhone which she just had to have for a birthday present.
    Drugged on sodium pentothal, being shagged up the arse by a seven foot tall negro nicknamed 'Razor'.


    ....perhaps not the last one.

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    disgusting perverse porn or art?




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    It would seem that with the arrests recently in Spain, pedophilia isn't that rare. Perhaps these kind of pics and art really disturb those with tendencies.
    I have a friend in federal detention for last 2 years awaiting appeal for hosting a web site of fully clothed children models that were photographed while their mothers were present in the room.
    Yes, they were posing provocatively , just like the Li'l Miss pageants.

    He has lost everything.

    That is hysteria, plain and simple .

    And at what point does the thought, or masturbating to images, become a crime ?

    Orwell wrote of " ThoughtCrime" has it come upon us ?
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    I think labeling something as "pornographic" says more about the person viewing than the creation. The pic of Brooke is about juxtaposition to me...a young girl made to look like a woman. You have sexualization and innocence in contrast. "Pornography" is subjective by definition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mordred View Post
    I think labeling something as "pornographic" says more about the person viewing than the creation. The pic of Brooke is about juxtaposition to me...a young girl made to look like a woman. You have sexualization and innocence in contrast. "Pornography" is subjective by definition.
    I don't entirely disagree with you or your interpretation but it does beg the question that if it is about juxtaposition then why the need for nudity at all?

    A pre-pubescent girl made-up to look like a woman I can understand in that context sure, but a nude pre-pubescent girl is clearly anything but.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mordred View Post
    I think labeling something as "pornographic" says more about the person viewing than the creation. The pic of Brooke is about juxtaposition to me...a young girl made to look like a woman. You have sexualization and innocence in contrast. "Pornography" is subjective by definition.
    I don't entirely disagree with you or your interpretation but it does beg the question that if it is about juxtaposition then why the need for nudity at all?

    A pre-pubescent girl made-up to look like a woman I can understand in that context sure, but a nude pre-pubescent girl is clearly anything but.

    And that's the rub, why is a nude child considered pornographic? Actually, why is any nudity pornographic?
    And WTF is so wrong with pornography anyway?

    If pics of sex are computer generated, disgusting filthy animal-child -whatever sex but computer generated ( or artfully drawn) how is it anyone's business if someone wants to fantasize?

    It's like all this porno and pedo hysteria is one more way of controlling thought

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    Well, I can't comment on what the photographer/artist wanted us to feel by having her pose nude. The picture does nothing sexually for me, but it would be less provocative in nature is she were clothed to some degree. It may not be necessary for all viewers, but the photographer is hitting us over the head with these ideas by using this composition. It would be interesting to show this same image to people of different cultures and get their interpretation.
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