still waiting for those "Lots of theories" :)Quote:
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still waiting for those "Lots of theories" :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
I guess you'll be waiting a long time then. When I said theories, I meant to say research, as in a lot of research being carried out and still no hard facts, just assumptions. The theories part was in reference to the independent models being used but the end goal seems to be the same, to show global warming is man made and as a direct result of burning fossil fuels. No doubt to get everyone to buy into the "green" forms of energy and fork out the dosh to fund it all.
Wrong!Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
By the way,……it’s not the sun. :)
Diverting from the topic again.
Explain the discrepancies.
Wrong, again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
Hard factsQuote:
Originally Posted by S Landreth
By the way,.........still not the sun. :)
Is Slando one of those nutters that thinks humans are responsible for rising temps? :)
there is absolutely no doubt
science :)
Earth and natural climate change science. :yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by S Landreth
I find the third reason put forward for the MWP to be a little weak. I couldn't find the link to the ocean current research that was carried out. Perhaps you can find a link for me.
Actually, I would have thought changing ocean current would be an effect rather than a cause. Coriollis has been pretty constant and certainly from that period so what suddenly changed the ocean currents. It was too vague and wishy-washy to be believed as a reason.
One other factor about the earth that NASA has ruled out without a full analysis is the earth's magnetic field. We know it's changing, both in locally and at the poles. That is, the position of the poles is changing and any airman will know mag variation charts are updated every 5 years. Yes, runway headings change and have to be updated.
However, there was a UK study circa 1976 that showed magnetic field changes in the NH and SH over a period and showed a cyclic variation. Interestingly, there was correlation between warm and cold periods. I'll dig it up when I'm on my laptop.
What is also interesting is that the magnetic field strength has fallen in the last 200 years. What effects this may have on weather should not just be thrown out, not unless a conclusion has already been defined.
^not the sun any longer?
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Originally Posted by Edmond
Could be naturally evolved cycles that come and go. Not like such catastrophes have ever occurred before :rolleyes:.
Nutters will nut.
Unnecessarily overthinking most everything, as it's been repeated long, often and loud enough - making it all real and true. ;)
Highly profitable scams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edmond
So far you have failed to successfully answer any of my questions or concerns about the 'facts' in your quoted sources.
I have no idea of the cause. I was hoping you would enlighten me. You haven't, just lols and c&p from articles you don't appear to have fully read or understood.
It would appear your thought processes have been forgotten in your eagerness to reply.
...and btw, I doubt it is one single cause but a number of contributing factors.
I do and it's not the sun :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
<sigh>
Scientists can't even work out what happened to MH370. Modelling Mother Earth to the standard required to explain a 1 or 2 degree celcius change over 150 years is still beyond them. This is gut feeling with political guidance...
You still haven't explained the contradictions and yet continue with your silly "it aint the sun" rhetoric. You need to do better.
Actually you still haven't answered any of my questions.
Well, if you had bothered to read you would have understood it is in combination with the Sun. More than one factor, remember?Quote:
Originally Posted by S Landreth
Anyway I found the 1976 research paper I mentioned, here is a link:
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/...9760007443.pdf
One thing I like about this paper is that it doesn't start at 1850 but much earlier, here is an extract from the article to whet your appetite:
Also of note in this paper is the Solar influence observation made:Quote:
If Earth's magnetic field influences' meteoro-logical phenomena, long-term changes in the geomagnetic field should produce corresponding changes in climate.
Figure 2 shows, in the upper section, the variation of the magnetic inclination at Paris since about 700 A.D. The lower section shows 50-yr averages of the temperatures prevailing in central England since about 900 A.D. These two sets of data exhibit similar variations. The "Little Ice Age" (Lamb, 1966) that occurred in Britain during the period 1550 to 1850 A.D. is
clearly associated with an epoch of high magnetic inclination.
Note that is a 53 year period of solar activity on top of the more normal 11 year cycle and this anomaly does not appear in spamdeath's sources at all. Instead these sources claim the sun activity has been "stable".Quote:
Scotland appears to have been influenced by changes of solar radiation associated with the solar cycle during the period from 1916 to 1969 (King, 1973). This conclusion is based on an apparent association between the length of the growing season and the yearly mean sunspot number: on the average, the growing season is about 25 days longer near sunspot maximum than near sunspot minimum. A detailed comparison of the growing season and the solar data reveals the geophysically interesting fact that the growing season tends to be longest about a year after sunspot maximum
I found another, more recent link, following further research here:
New perspectives in the study of the Earth’s magnetic field and climate connection: The use of transfer entropy - PMC
Interesting reading and raise doubts about the single source (and therefore single solution) to the current problem related to global warming.
You are a climate denier. No proof will ever convince you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
Anyway, I am not here to answer your questions. But I have shown you facts and it's not the sun. :)
Why scientists think 100% of global warming is due to humans
And you’re the one who had “Lots of theories”.
But I am still waiting for those theories from credible sourcesQuote:
Originally Posted by Troy
National Library of Medicine? :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
What does that actually mean? That I don't believe there's a climate? Again, stop with your childish retorts.Quote:
Originally Posted by S Landreth
I have questioned those "facts" and you have failed to come up with any credible answers to justify them.Quote:
Originally Posted by S Landreth
Are you suggesting that medical science is not a science and it's scientists should be excluded from research?Quote:
Originally Posted by S Landreth
In fact, if you'd bothered to read the box at the top of the html page you would have noticed the library 'provides access to scientific literature'
Further proof that you do nothing more than superficial reading and believe only what you want to believe. That is not a very scientific attitude.
I have shown you theories that have been ignored because they don't fit in with your desired conclusion.
Mind you, having said that the US should pay the world compensation for its disgraceful overuse of resources and energy wastage.
you don't believe the scienceQuote:
Originally Posted by Troy
Wrong. But then you're a climate denier and can't deal with facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
The authors should stay within their field.Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
And why did they publish their findings in a 3rd rate Medical Journal.
Do I need to tell you why? :)
:)Quote:
Originally Posted by S Landreth
Quite Marilyn-Monroenian.
It appears it's you who is in denial, not me.Quote:
Originally Posted by S Landreth
Blinkered truth denier!
and again.......
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Originally Posted by S Landreth
Super! There's loads of stuff in there, and the links, to pick apart piece by piece.
Spotted several inconsistencies on the first page alone.
As I said, you are just a C&P merchant that doesn't actually read and understand the material you provide.
Truth denying Spammer!
Did you find out it wasn't the sun? :)
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Conclusion
While there are natural factors that affect the Earth’s climate, the combined influence of volcanoes and changes in solar activity would have resulted in cooling rather than warming over the past 50 years.
^ The more I read, the more I find how important it is for the global warming community to discount the sun at ll costs. Clearly the sun plays a major role in the climate on earth and to deny this is to deny climatology itself.
Ergo, that makes you a climate denier!
There we have it. The very person accusing everyone of being a climate denier is one himself!
Gosh! I'll say that again:
Climate denier!
the sun is not as much of a problem as compared to the GHG humans are pumping into the atmosphereQuote:
Originally Posted by Troy
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Conclusion
While there are natural factors that affect the Earth’s climate, the combined influence of volcanoes and changes in solar activity would have resulted in cooling rather than warming over the past 50 years.
Why scientists think 100% of global warming is due to humans
Conclusion
While there are natural factors that affect the Earth’s climate, the combined influence of volcanoes and changes in solar activity would have resulted in cooling rather than warming over the past 50 years.
It’s a conspiracy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
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You should spend a little more time at NASA’s website - Further proof…….Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
NASA Facts
Global warming is the long-term heating of Earth’s surface observed since the pre-industrial period (between 1850 and 1900) due to human activities, primarily fossil fuel burning, which increases heat-trapping greenhouse gas levels in Earth’s atmosphere. This term is not interchangeable with the term "climate change."
Since the pre-industrial period, human activities are estimated to have increased Earth’s global average temperature by about 1 degree Celsius (1.8 degrees Fahrenheit), a number that is currently increasing by more than 0.2 degrees Celsius (0.36 degrees Fahrenheit) per decade. The current warming trend is unequivocally the result of human activity since the 1950s and is proceeding at an unprecedented rate over millennia.
Little more evidence from NASA
There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming at an unprecedented rate. Human activity is the principal cause.
Not the sun. :)
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Originally Posted by S Landreth
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Originally Posted by S Landreth
You’re not even consistent with your nonsense.
is the sun not much of a problem or 0% of a problem
Hey climate denier, I've always known. It's not the sun.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrWilly
your butt still stinging :doglol:
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Conclusion
While there are natural factors that affect the Earth’s climate, the combined influence of volcanoes and changes in solar activity would have resulted in cooling rather than warming over the past 50 years.
Zeke Hausfather - Global temperatures have fallen back below record levels in recent days, but February 2024 remains the odds-on favorite to be the warmest February on record: https://twitter.com/hausfath/status/1760358052052836583
The heat in Dallas-Fort Worth broke at least two records Monday afternoon.
The temperature reached 91 about 1 : 07 p.m. at DFW Airport, making it the hottest Feb. 26 on record since a 90-degree record was set 1917, according to the National Weather Service in Fort Worth.
Unseasonably high temperatures are breaking records from the southern border to Canada, as a warm front blankets most of the U.S. east of the Rocky Mountains.
More than 100 temperature records broke on Monday from Texas to Minnesota, with Killeen, Texas, reaching 100 degrees.
Abilene, Texas, hit 94 degrees, followed by Dallas at 93 degrees, Oklahoma City at 88 degrees, and other notable highs including Omaha’s 80 degrees and Chicago’s 71 degrees.
Has the hot season officially arrived?
Today was 39.3C in Nongbualamphu.
Forty is not far away.
Oh it's here. Clip 40c today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shutree
Fark that's hot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stumpy
I know I have mentioned it before but the CWMS says that when she was a child (a decade ago - just dreaming, a few decades) then 30C was 'hot'. I doubt there were any thermometers in the village then. Whatever, she thinks 40C is crazy. And this is only the beginning ....
^ I had both Mist fans running to help Ung and Bao as they installed ceiling in pool area. Later I helped my wife's friend pick up and unload a new fridge. Was only 38.7 at her house. :)
Couple that heat with crap air quality.
39 here - 40 forecast for Monday.
AQI is down 60 to just under 200.
Whoopee!
:sad:
Nearly Beer:30
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Amen to that. Cheers. Got a few in the freezer chilling right now. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by cyrille
Hit 40.2 today. PM2.5 at 81. Still no damn breeze.
- Heat wave in Southeast Asia closes schools, triggers health alerts
The Philippines has closed schools down and warned of overloading on its power grid, as authorities across Southeast Asia issued a series of health alerts for a crushing and deadly heat wave.
The Philippines' country's education ministry cancelled in-person classes at public schools for two days on Sunday.
"We already have reports of high blood pressure and dizziness, and fainting for pupils and teachers in the past days," Benjo Basas, chairperson of Teachers' Dignity Coalition, a group of educators, told DWPM radio station.
Temperatures in the Philippines are forecast to reach 37 degree Celsius (98.6 degrees Fahrenheit) in the next three days, with many classrooms crowded and without air conditioning.
The country's weather agency said the heat index - the actual temperature felt by the body to include relative humidity - is expected to remain at a record 45 degrees Celsius (113° Fahrenheit), in the range which it classes as "dangerous" as conditions can trigger heat stroke from prolonged exposure.
The heat wave is also putting pressure on power supplies on the main island of Luzon, which accounts for three-quarters of economic output, with reserves thinning after 13 power plants had shut down earlier this month, the Philippines' grid operator said in a statement.
In Thailand, temperatures are forecast to surpass 40 degrees in Bangkok and the country's central and northern regions with the meteorological agency advising people to avoid being outdoors for extended periods.
Temperatures soared to 44.2 degrees Celsius in the northern city of Lampang on April 22, with the meteorological department saying on Monday it expects the extreme heat will continue this week.
In the past month, 30 people have died from heat stroke, data from Thailand's health ministry showed.
People are seeking respite from the heat in air-conditioned shopping malls in Vietnam's business hub Ho Chi Minh City, state media reported, with the country's national weather agency warning of risks of forest fires, dehydration, and heat shock.
Maximum temperatures measured in several parts of northern and central Vietnam ranged from 40.2 and 44.0 degree Celsius the agency said on Sunday, adding that temperatures won't subside until Wednesday.
Vietnam's state electricity company has also urged consumers to refrain from overworking their air conditioning units, warning that electricity consumption has reached record highs in the recent days.
Malaysia meteorological department issued hot weather warnings on Sunday for 16 areas that have recorded temperatures between 35 and 40 degrees (95 to 104 degrees Fahrenheit) for three consecutive days.
A total of 45 cases of heat-related illnesses have been reported in the country as of April 13, the health ministry said, without specifying when it began tracking the cases. Two deaths due to heat stroke have been reported, the ministry said in a statement.
In the neighbouring city state of Singapore, the meteorological service said the country's temperatures could soar higher in 2024 than last year, which was Singapore's fourth-warmest year since records began in 1929.
Singapore's hottest day recorded was May 13 last year when the highest daily maximum temperature hit 37 degrees Celsius.
Since last month some schools have relaxed rules on uniforms to allow students to wear more comfortable physical education attire amid the persistent heat.
Meanwhile, warmer temperatures in Southeast Asia's most populated nation of Indonesia are driving a surge in cases of dengue fever, a mosquito-borne infection, with cases more than doubling to 35,000 from 15,000 a year earlier, the health ministry has said.
reuters.com