I do not mean to be flippant but if ya put all the punters killed in terrorist attacks up against the annual Thai road accident toll it's fuk all.
True innit, yet the world don't declared war on this shithouse.
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I do not mean to be flippant but if ya put all the punters killed in terrorist attacks up against the annual Thai road accident toll it's fuk all.
True innit, yet the world don't declared war on this shithouse.
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You have to be Terry57, unless TD is blessed with yet another member of the illiterati!
If you would like to correlate suicide bombings with adherents to the three main monotheistic ones, I'm all ears.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceman123
Certainly not the main three monotheistic ones. What ones were you thinking of?Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracudaHowever most religions have grown out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Auroria:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Everybody's been slaughtering themselves and others for a lot longer than that.
I'd do it for you, only I already know what the result will be.
:rolleyes:
So are you one of these dimwits that thinks there was no Islamic terrorism prior to 2003?Quote:
Originally Posted by tamsinYour comment is as inane as the 'actor' you picked for your avatar. Fact 1. If the US had abided by the findings of Hans Blix among millions of others, and hadn't used their highly propagandised invasion of Iraq (funny how Fox News is now the only non neo liberal outlet reporting something with a passing acquaintance with the truth as opposed to CNN et al), the horror show of the past decade would never have happened and 2. If said neo liberal politicians-with-an-agenda, on either side of the pond, hadn't allowed thousands upon thousands of undocumented economic migrants, er, refugees to flood Europe, It Wouldn't Have Happened and neither would any of the past and sure to be future attacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Looper
I'm sure the families of these kids appreciate your throwaway 'RIP'. What's your user name on VOAT btw? And, ah, a Thatcher fan 'Keep a stiff upper one and carry on, we'll be down here in our bunkers sipping tea and eating crumpets, if you haha, need us'. Dear God ..
I think you are on the money here tamsin.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamsin
That was my point really. Terrorists gonna terrorist but the actual impact of terrorism is tiny compared to other dangers in life so we should not let them change the way we go about things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thedogsbollix
I appreciate that you are all ears but perhaps it would be more relevant if you were all eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracudaIf you would like to correlate suicide bombings with adherents to the three main monotheistic ones, I'm all ears.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceman123Certainly not the main three monotheistic ones. What ones were you thinking of?Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracudaHowever most religions have grown out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Auroria:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Everybody's been slaughtering themselves and others for a lot longer than that.
:rolleyes:
Read the post again and focus on the argument that yourself and Aurora were debating.
I don't think you will find suicide bombing as part of it.
:chitown:
11,000,000 Muslims killed by Muslims since 1948.
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Originally Posted by Iceman123I appreciate that you are all ears but perhaps it would be more relevant if you were all eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracudaIf you would like to correlate suicide bombings with adherents to the three main monotheistic ones, I'm all ears.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceman123Certainly not the main three monotheistic ones. What ones were you thinking of?Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracudaHowever most religions have grown out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Auroria
:rolleyes:
Read the post again and focus on the argument that yourself and Aurora were debating.
I don't think you will find suicide bombing as part of it.
:chitown:
You seem to be trying to master the non sequitur.
What is your point exactly?
Just to clarify, my point was that religious terrorism is primarily a feature of radical Islam, and is a global, not necessarily anti-western phenomenon.
Maybe my sources for some reason don't cover all the terrorist Jews or Christians, perhaps you could list the dozens of terrorist attacks committed by each of them this month.
There seems to be some discussion on the news about the lack of security at the event.
I can't really see what difference that would make, the terrorist looked for a choke point and found it.
How far a perimeter do they want to draw for these things?
Security at a childrens concert, wasn't needed previously.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Soft target and mass slaughter of innocent children.
Doesn't get much sicker.
Roughly 10 by Colombian rebels, another 3 in Ukraine, 1 in Rome, could be classed as carried out by Xtians, but not for religious reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
None by Jews.
All the rest, 134 of them (aprox) carried out by Islamist groups.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ts_in_May_2017
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Originally Posted by ENT
if its not the americans that they imagine are persecuting them, then its some other bogey man lurking in the depths of their primitive consciousness. they are tribals and will pick a fight with anyone.
summed up nicely by uris ...
“So before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world. And all of us against the infidel.” (The Haj, p. 15)
and on it goes.
...and they wont stop until they have dragged the world kicking and screaming back to the stone age, unless of course they are taught a sharp lesson by those societies more advanced than them.
Don't fall for that Muslim/apologist argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by taxexile
The 'Muslims' killing 'Muslims' are devout Muslims killing less devout Muslims that they view as no more Muslim than worthless infidels.
LEON Uris? Seriously? :smileylaughing:Quote:
Originally Posted by taxexile
Now that we know your opinions are formed by airport blockbusters much becomes clear. What I had put down to your increasing senility is clearly down to your poor taste in literature. What next, Jilly Cooper's guide to the 2007 Financial Crisis, the Afghan War as seen through the lens of James Michener's Caravans?
Oh, some idiots think that a perimeter around the country will keep the terrorists away.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
We just stop them with immigration restrictions, right? :)
or by building a physical wall like Trump does.. :rofl:
Gotta be tezza:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Thedogsbollix
Is that you Terry? Why the new nic?:chitown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Thedogsbollix
Err, Tax, Muslim society gave us Algebra and modernised mathematics, modern Christian Europe gave us two world wars and the industrialised slaughter of an entire fucking race.Quote:
Originally Posted by taxexileQuote:
Originally Posted by ENT
if its not the americans that they imagine are persecuting them, then its some other bogey man lurking in the depths of their primitive consciousness. they are tribals and will pick a fight with anyone.
summed up nicely by uris ...
“So before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world. And all of us against the infidel.” (The Haj, p. 15)
and on it goes.
...and they wont stop until they have dragged the world kicking and screaming back to the stone age, unless of course they are taught a sharp lesson by those societies more advanced than them.
You truly are a fucking moron these days and increasingly given to pitiful bigotry suggesting that in your advancing dementia you are evolving into a fucking retarded septic with all his brains in his arse.
Gert a grip and stop making an arse of yourself.
Leon Uris indeed.
yes it isQuote:
Originally Posted by rickschoppers
he turned 60Quote:
Originally Posted by rickschoppers
https://www.facebook.com/internationalfreedomQuote:
International Freedom Battalion shared Manchester Antifascists's photo.
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SMASH ISIS - SUPPORT YPG
As anti fascists we do not hesitate to condemn last nights attack which was undoubtedly ordered or inspired by the Salafi Fascists of ISIS, Al Qaeda or similar.
The people of Manchester will not be divided by any of those who wish to paint such attacks as simply a matter of 'muslims vs non muslims': the Salafi Fascists themselves, the British Far Right, the Right Wing corporate media, and the imperialist politicians who wish to capitalise on our fears of Salafi terrorism yet support politically and financially those Gulf regimes who are the economic and ideological mentors of the Salafi groups wreaking terror across the world from Syria to Manchester.
These forces wish to see us opposed to one another, yet we are friends, relatives, neighbours and colleagues. We are no mugs in Manchester. We will stand together.
We must root out those behind such divisive ideology and expose them, and stop their poison decisively.
Whilst we mourn our losses here, we salute the Mancunian anti-fascist volunteers currently fighting ISIS as part of the International Freedom Battalion, part of the People's Defense Units YPG
very true, yes they are inspirational, especially their justification and legalisation of rape, sanguineous marriage and the persecution of homosexuals, christians and anything else they take a dislike to.Quote:
Err, Tax, Muslim society gave us Algebra and modernised mathematics,
islam today is a vile cancer and bears little relation to its once admirable aspirations.
your comments are either crass stupidity or b grade trolling. consider yourself told.
The first known victim of the Muslim attack has been named as 18-year-old Georgina Callander.
Georgina Callander with Ariana Grande in an image Instagrammed two years ago. Photograph: georgina.bethany/Instagram
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Theresa May ...said the security services believe they know the attacker's identity but are not yet able to confirm it.
A lone attacker set off a homemade bomb in the foyer at 22:33 BST on Monday.
Armed police have arrested a 23-year-old man in Chorlton, south Manchester, in connection with the attack.
Greater Manchester Police Chief Constable Ian Hopkins said ..... the "fast-moving investigation" was now working to establish whether the attacker "was acting alone or as part of a network".
Twenty-two people, including an eight-year-old girl, have been killed and 59 injured
So-called Islamic State has said it was behind the attack, via IS channels on the messaging app Telegram.
Manchester attack: 22 dead and 59 hurt in suicide bombing - BBC News
A sad day for Brittany .
My condolences and deepest sympathies.
CNN have this on loop.
Suppose it takes the pressure away from Trump for a while eh.
All be forgotton in a few days until the next one goes off.
Journalists certainly are trash dressed up as humans and will talk shit up just to fill a news broadcaste.
Ask the same stupid question in 50 different ways.
Coonts one and all.
Now interviewing young kids who would not know shit from sticky pudding.
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8 year old Saffie-Rose Roussos identified as another victim :(
Security services are saying that the fact it came from IS central media rather than Al Amaq, coupled with the increased sophistication of the attack, suggests that the perpetrator was directly linked to IS and it may be the actions of cell.
There will be more than a few cages rattled over the next few days I fancy.
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It's duly noted you have signally failed to acknowledge the greatest assault on the human race was launched by European Christians allied to a bunch of yellow bellied Buddhist slant-eyed fuckers over a 42 year span during which nearly 100 millions died.Quote:
Originally Posted by taxexile
I rather think your muslim bogeyman has a helluva lot of catching up to do to match the white Christian fucker in the bestial, slaughtering stakes.
You silly old man.
Just now, another guy in Whalley range was arrested this morning.:
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:rofl::rofl::rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by ENT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_o...archs_massacre
You really are a dimwit.
It's just a thought about here where I live, but for years people have explained to Me that they fear for their children's future, or if they are older they say that they fear for their grandchildrens future.
Is this attack on the young their future?
A lot of these posts should be in the Muslim mega thread.
The hospitals in Manchester are no longer accepting blood donations as they have more than enough for the victims.
Very quite out there today, no one talking, less traffic.
The gym was packed at lunch time, not usually.People working off fustration no doubt
A state of shock for most.
A lot of positive stories coming to light about the people of Manchester.
A lot of anticipation about the victims.
One must remember that we are only stone throw away from 1939 and the loss of hundreds of millions of life's when people talk of revenge etc.
I should imagine there are a lot of anxious Muslims in the UK right now.
Divide and conquer, that's what the degenerate barbarians want.
There is a vigil in the city centre tonight, i shall be taking the children.
Well said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chittychangchang
why? sticking your head in the sand and lighting candles will not do any good, Islamic terrorism needs to be talked about, not hidden awayQuote:
Originally Posted by Chittychangchang
Manchester Arndale shopping centre EVACUATED just hours after Ariana Grande terror attack | UK | News | Express.co.uk
Police stormed the scene following reports of glass being smashed and a suspicous bag found in the food court, just hours after the deadly explosion at the Ariana Grande concert, which left children and their families fleeing for cover.
Dramatic video footage shows the moment armed police arrested and escorted a man out of the centre in the heart of the city.
A police spokesman said: "A man has been arrested at the Arndale Centre.
The background and ethnicity of the bomber will be known very soon, as will their possible associates.
There is of course, well founded revulsion for this attack, targeting a large number of young people in a social event. That of course if what terrorism is all about. Creating an undercurrent of terror in a population in the belief that the worse atrocities that are committed will create pressure to a Government to capitulate on it's stance. The UK, through the IRA years, are well used to such, and of course the last 15 years or so have seen increasing and devastating radical Muslim originated atrocities.
The diverse population of the UK, with it's large Muslim and other ethnic communities, are a breeding ground for radicalism. That there are relatively few occurrences such as this are primarily due to the UK security services and their intelligence gathering.
One can only imagine the complexity of their role and the trawling through countless witness and electronic intelligence it must take in their efforts to get some form of handle on potential events. Those liberals who decry surveillance of social media and emails are so out of the park in the real world. Yes, privacy is important, however in todays world, security and safety of the greater population is paramount. Try telling the parents and relatives of those killed and injured in this Manchester attack that people's rights are being violated by 'snoopers' seeking to know more about those wishing to do harm to others.
I'm a Mancunian, and an ex member of HM Forces. My feelings tonight are that of great sadness obviously, not only for those families who have suffered loss or have been injured but also for those communities around the UK who will expect, and no doubt experience, retribution for a crime which they themselves abhor and condemn.
No ones sticking their head in the sand apart from the misguided bombers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thai3why? sticking your head in the sand and lighting candles will not do any good, Islamic terrorism needs to be talked about, not hidden awayQuote:
Originally Posted by Chittychangchang
It's hardly hidden away with 24 hour coverage around the globe of different atrocities.
The posts i'm referring to are by the same tit for tat argumentatists who seek any opportunity to have a spa with their adversary.
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Originally Posted by Chittychangchang
How many are out there in Britain applauding this terror act ?
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Originally Posted by ShrewedPunter
The suicide bomber who killed 22 people and injured dozens more at the Manchester Arena has been named as 22-year-old Salman Abedi.
Born in Manchester in 1994, the second youngest of four children his parents were Libyan refugees who came to the UK to escape the Gaddafi regime.
Makes you wonder how the fuck someone in his family, friends or neighbours didn't suss what he was planning..
His family home..
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