Agree with that. Also makes me suspicious of it being a false flag to garner sympathy for the far right. That aside, whomever did this pure scum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
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Agree with that. Also makes me suspicious of it being a false flag to garner sympathy for the far right. That aside, whomever did this pure scum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
Indeed. Once survivors are interviewed, and the undoubtably available CCTV footage pored over, I would expect a few houses being raided during the coming hours/days.Quote:
Originally Posted by taxexile
how exactly?Quote:
Also makes me suspicious of it being a false flag
It wasn't the IRA, a splinter group unsanctioned by anyone in the IRA were responsible, the RIRA.Quote:
Originally Posted by PAGIt's 30th January (1972). You may be interested to know that 20th August this year will see the 19th anniversary of the Omagh bombing by the IRA, in which 29 innocent civilians were killed and 220 injured.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
But let's not get bogged down in minor detail, the suppression of Irish nationalism by the British implementing their ethnic cleansing practices did account for over a million Irish deaths and the so-called pacification of the Irish volunteer army and innocent catholics in Ireland after 1918 by the Black 'n Tans and the Auxiliaries did lead to 2000 murders of Catholic Irish men women and children.
Just a bit of perspective for you ignoramuses.
May will stop at nothing to hold on to power. Look at it this way- the west funds terrorism by constantly doing business with Saudi. The arms trade is big money and events like this give a reason for more business. A circle of death.Quote:
Originally Posted by taxexile
You brought up 'The Troubles', no one else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
Cherchez la femme.......Quote:
Originally Posted by taxexile
oh, i see.
those concert goers, those commuters in london 10 years ago, those in france last year and spain a few years ago, and of course those terrible americans and their crazy presidents, they all brought it on themselves by not imploring their governments to stop the arms trade.
Sadly, cynically, my first thought too.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
RIP kids.
Yes it is stupid to blame the arms trade, we know that arms are only intended to be used for defense. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by taxexile
Wow how fucking hilarious is that.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobo746
Considering some of the shit that gets a run on this forum it's funny as fuk.
Mine also. Greater Manchester just got a new Labour Mayor, and Corbyn was at the rally earlier this month. With May getting a roasting over the 'dementia tax' fiasco this past week, just before the Election, it seems this event was just a coincidence.?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoSadly, cynically, my first thought too.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
RIP kids.
Every cloud has a silver lining, eh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
Come on then, go full retard.Quote:
Originally Posted by kmartMine also. Greater Manchester just got a new Labour Mayor, and Corbyn was at the rally earlier this month. With May getting a roasting over the 'dementia tax' fiasco this past week, just before the Election, it seems this event was just a coincidence.?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoSadly, cynically, my first thought too.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
RIP kids.
Harry, once the demented finally rally...then there will be a reckoning.
But not entirely unrelated to the inescapable fact that post 2003 Iraq invasion, and as a consequence of the drone wars subsequently waged in several theatres since then, at least 2, 000 (but probably many more) innocent Arab/Muslim men, women and children have been slaughtered by coalition forces but who have been dismissed merely as collateral damage or their deaths simply denied, no matter how implausibly.Quote:
Originally Posted by taxexile
It's a complex issue but one could not possibly expect the lower end of Western democracy, as manifested by the stupid Americans and lumpen British to comprehend it.
Launching attacks on civilian western targets is merely reciprocity in the eyes of many Arabs and if one fails to recognise that then you must be quite, quite stupid.
This from Reuters, courtesy of BP:
CAIRO - - Islamic State supporters celebrated on social media on Tuesday after a blast at a concert venue in the north of England killed at least 19 people, although the militant Islamist group has not formally claimed responsibility.
British police have said they are treating the blast at the Manchester Arena at the end of a concert by US singer Ariana Grande as a "terrorist incident". More than 50 people were wounded.
Twitter accounts affiliated to Islamic State have used hashtags referring to the blast to post celebratory messages, with some users encouraging similar attacks elsewhere.
Some messages described the attack as an act of revenge in response to air strikes in Iraq and Syria.
"It seems that bombs of the British air force over children of Mosul and Raqqa has just came back to #Manchester," one user named Abdul Haqq said on Twitter, in reference to the Iraqi and Syrian cities held by the militants where a US-led coalition, of which Britain is a member, is conducting air strikes.
Supporters posted messages encouraging each other to carry out "lone wolf" attacks in the West and shared Islamic State videos threatening the United States and Europe.
One user said he hoped Islamic State was responsible for the attack, although no claim has appeared on any of the militant's group's official social media channels.
"We hope that the perpetrator is one of the soldiers of the caliphate," he wrote on a channel affiliated to the group hosted by messaging network Telegram.
Others posted banners saying "the beginning is in Brussels and Paris, and in London we form a state," in reference to previous similar "lone wolf" attacks in Belgium and France for which the group has claimed responsibility.
British Prime Minister Theresa May said the blast was being treated as a terrorist attack.
If confirmed, it would be the deadliest militant assault on Britain since four British Muslims killed 52 people in suicide bombings on London's transport system in July 2005.
US officials drew parallels between the blast and the coordinated attacks in November 2015 by Islamist militants on the Bataclan concert hall and other sites in Paris, which claimed about 130 lives.
Two officials who spoke on condition of anonymity said that initial signs pointed to a suicide bomber as being responsible for the blast.
Islamic State supporters celebrate Manchester attack | Bangkok Post: news
Why do people like you always seem to forget the fact that muslims have been slaughtering each other 1400 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeekingasylumBut not entirely unrelated to the inescapable fact that post 2003 Iraq invasion, and as a consequence of the drone wars subsequently waged in several theatres since then, at least 2, 000 (but probably many more) innocent Arab/Muslim men, women and children have been slaughtered by coalition forces but who have been dismissed merely as collateral damage or their deaths simply denied, no matter how implausibly.Quote:
Originally Posted by taxexile
It's a complex issue but one could not possibly expect the lower end of Western democracy, as manifested by the stupid Americans and lumpen British to comprehend it.
Launching attacks on civilian western targets is merely reciprocity in the eyes of many Arabs and if one fails to recognise that then you must be quite, quite stupid.
Terrorism is part of the extremist doctrine, and always will be.
Most muslims just roll their eyes at it the same way most pikies couldn't give a fuck about the IRA.
The only reason you are hearing about this latest terrorist atrocity is that it happened in Manchester.
There have been more than a dozen suicide bombings globally with over 100 casualties just this month. I doubt you've read about more than one of them. No prizes for guessing the nature of the perpetrators.
Methinks you are looking at it from the wrong angle.
RIP to the dead.
Terrorists gonna terrorist.
Don't let them change the way our society works or the way we go about our lives and they don't win.
You already did..Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
You are the retard harryQuote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Everybody's been slaughtering themselves and others for a lot longer than that.
This is quite correct, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeekingasylumBut not entirely unrelated to the inescapable fact that post 2003 Iraq invasion, and as a consequence of the drone wars subsequently waged in several theatres since then, at least 2, 000 (but probably many more) innocent Arab/Muslim men, women and children have been slaughtered by coalition forces but who have been dismissed merely as collateral damage or their deaths simply denied, no matter how implausibly.Quote:
Originally Posted by taxexile
It's a complex issue but one could not possibly expect the lower end of Western democracy, as manifested by the stupid Americans and lumpen British to comprehend it.
Launching attacks on civilian western targets is merely reciprocity in the eyes of many Arabs and if one fails to recognise that then you must be quite, quite stupid.
It was used as a reason when Isis burned the Jordanian pilot alive. That he and his comrades were there burning their children alive with their bombs.
How many muslims were killed in retaliation over 9-11 during the ensuing Western led wars? And they probably weren't even responsible for 9-11. :rolleyes:
Either way, this attack is abhorrent. Just as all militant attacks on innocent civilians are.
je suis Manchester?
Europeans should send a stern warning to the jihadists, that they have lots of flowers and candles and are not afraid to use them.
Yup, well figured, inside job.Quote:
Originally Posted by kmartMine also. Greater Manchester just got a new Labour Mayor, and Corbyn was at the rally earlier this month. With May getting a roasting over the 'dementia tax' fiasco this past week, just before the Election, it seems this event was just a coincidence.?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoSadly, cynically, my first thought too.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
RIP kids.
At least we now know who Ariana Grande might be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Looper
We must take positives out of this.
Don't be surprised to find out the bomber is a home grown victim of the 60s white Englishman Paki Bashing
Indeed. So sorry for the victims and their families.Quote:
Originally Posted by Auroria
The US (indirectly) through their bombing/bullying and interfering in world affairs - has a lot to be responsible for. Still not vindicating the cnuts that did this, of course.. just saying like...
Just because you are an ole fart and your hip joints are not working anymore....:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
For our last number, I'd like to ask your help. Would the people in the cheaper seats clap your hands. And the rest of you, if you'll just rattle your jewelry......ahemm prosthetic implants.
However most religions have grown out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Auroria:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Everybody's been slaughtering themselves and others for a lot longer than that.
Who knew?
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Chart-topping music sensation Ariana Grande brings her Dangerous Woman European tour to Manchester this May.
I'm not too sure what is sicker, doing it out of religion or doing it out of greed, whooops, the desire to create Western styled democracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracudaHowever most religions have grown out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Auroria:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Everybody's been slaughtering themselves and others for a lot longer than that.
Will suit the islamophobes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carnwadrick
22 dead now including children, details on Bolshevik Broadcasting Corp site, forgot to copy link.
Oh well off to work now and switch on My limousine car stereo for saturation coverage all day long.
Just finished the school run, a lot of solemn faces.
Many regulars in the playground not present.
Everyone knows someone who attended the concert last night.
Most parents dropped the kids off and waited to pick them up.
The bomb went off in the middle in the foyer carried by a suicide bomber.
60 Lost children are in the local Holiday Inn hotel waiting to be matched up with their parents.
22 murdered and 59 injured, some fighting for their lifes in 8 hospitals across the North West.
Thousand of young children targeted!!
Many on their first concert and should have been an fun,amazing time.
I feel sick and sad.
and those that subscribe to that view must be just as stupid considering that worldwide, many more muslims are killed than filthy white imperialists in muslim terrorist acts.Quote:
Launching attacks on civilian western targets is merely reciprocity in the eyes of many Arabs and if one fails to recognise that then you must be quite, quite stupid.
must be something else driving them to commit these nihilist acts.
Certainly not the main three monotheistic ones. What ones were you thinking of?Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracudaHowever most religions have grown out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Auroria:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Everybody's been slaughtering themselves and others for a lot longer than that.
Your comment is as inane as the 'actor' you picked for your avatar. Fact 1. If the US had abided by the findings of Hans Blix among millions of others, and hadn't used their highly propagandised invasion of Iraq (funny how Fox News is now the only non neo liberal outlet reporting something with a passing acquaintance with the truth as opposed to CNN et al), the horror show of the past decade would never have happened and 2. If said neo liberal politicians-with-an-agenda, on either side of the pond, hadn't allowed thousands upon thousands of undocumented economic migrants, er, refugees to flood Europe, It Wouldn't Have Happened and neither would any of the past and sure to be future attacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Looper
I'm sure the families of these kids appreciate your throwaway 'RIP'. What's your user name on VOAT btw? And, ah, a Thatcher fan 'Keep a stiff upper one and carry on, we'll be down here in our bunkers sipping tea and eating crumpets, if you haha, need us'. Dear God ..