^^ No doubt, but being less awful than the worst people on the planet is not that remarkable an achievement.
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^^ No doubt, but being less awful than the worst people on the planet is not that remarkable an achievement.
Your spelling's atrocious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Passing Through
BTW, which petty dictatorate are you living in?
If you think it's acceptable to bring humour to this twat killing kids I hope you die slowly and in pain
I despaire
MI5 is to hold an inquiry into the way it dealt with warnings from the public that the Manchester suicide bomber, Salman Abedi, was a potential threat.
Whitehall officials have acknowledged the security service will examine what assumptions had been made about the 22-year-old before last Monday's attack. It later emerged it was alerted to his extremist views at least three times.
Early on Monday a man, 23, was arrested in Shoreham-by-Sea, West Sussex, on suspicion of terrorism offences. Greater Manchester Police said they had also executed search warrants at addresses in the Whalley Range area of Manchester and in Chester overnight.
Manchester attacks: MI5 probes bomber 'warnings' - BBC News
Inquirey just more wasted time and money. Mi5 blew it big time.
Clueless as ever, you mad old twat.Quote:
Your spelling's atrocious.
It pays to be horrible to enemies,..y'can even smile at them while being horrible. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Passing Through
Showing fear or backing away from bullies doesn't work at all, as they love dealing out what they can't handle,...fear and pain, so get stuck in, give it back, give it heaps! They're all cowards.
^ That's what Isis says.
Sad
Survivor of London 7/7 bombings took own life hours after Manchester Arena attack - Irish Mirror OnlineQuote:
A survivor of London’s 7/7 bombings has been found dead just hours after the Manchester Arena attack .
Tragic Tony Walter, 52, was discovered at his home after failing to turn up for work .
Friends believe the Manchester bombing, and the Westminster attack in March when four people were killed by Khalid Masood , brought back traumatic memories of 7/7 and Tony could not cope.
^No cash cards found so far!
Take a page out of their book then, and burn the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
The difference between ISIS/bullies/gangsters and the average self-defending bloke is that the latter's not looking for victims, as those former, victimizers do.
What would you do if attacked, bend over? Go into a foetal position? Plead? Cry?
None of that's gonna help ya, the victimizer's gonna do you over anyway, whatever you do, so you're better off dealing it back to him, the outcome's not going to be much worse, probably a lot better instead if you smack him hard enough to damage him where it really hurts.
A coward dies a thousand times, a brave man only once.
You're missing one quite important point: Someone who is prepared to blow themselves to kingdom come can hardly be described as a "coward".Quote:
Originally Posted by ENTTake a page out of their book then, and burn the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
The difference between ISIS/bullies/gangsters and the average self-defending bloke is that the latter's not looking for victims, as those former, victimizers do.
What would you do if attacked, bend over? Go into a foetal position? Plead? Cry?
None of that's gonna help ya, the victimizer's gonna do you over anyway, whatever you do, so you're better off dealing it back to him, the outcome's not going to be much worse, probably a lot better instead if you smack him hard enough to damage him where it really hurts.
A coward dies a thousand times, a brave man only once.
A fucking idiot or a mental case, yes. But coward, no.
I had that argument once with a prof of religion re jihadists, he said the same as you..Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracudaYou're missing one quite important point: Someone who is prepared to blow themselves to kingdom come can hardly be described as a "coward".Quote:
Originally Posted by ENTTake a page out of their book then, and burn the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
The difference between ISIS/bullies/gangsters and the average self-defending bloke is that the latter's not looking for victims, as those former, victimizers do.
What would you do if attacked, bend over? Go into a foetal position? Plead? Cry?
None of that's gonna help ya, the victimizer's gonna do you over anyway, whatever you do, so you're better off dealing it back to him, the outcome's not going to be much worse, probably a lot better instead if you smack him hard enough to damage him where it really hurts.
A coward dies a thousand times, a brave man only once.
A fucking idiot or a mental case, yes. But coward, no.
My view is that the coward couldn't face death alone, so needed company,...a problem shared is a problem halved, so to speak.
Many suicidal persons do that, just gotta have someone with them as they leap the gap....cowards the lot of them.
Anyway, the mad bomber thinks it'll be all pure bliss for him when he presses that button, no pain or hell to be afraid of.
So where's the bravery in that?
Borh of them only die once:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ENT
Note that I never mentioned bravery.Quote:
Originally Posted by ENTI had that argument once with a prof of religion re jihadists, he said the same as you..Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracudaYou're missing one quite important point: Someone who is prepared to blow themselves to kingdom come can hardly be described as a "coward".Quote:
Originally Posted by ENTTake a page out of their book then, and burn the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
The difference between ISIS/bullies/gangsters and the average self-defending bloke is that the latter's not looking for victims, as those former, victimizers do.
What would you do if attacked, bend over? Go into a foetal position? Plead? Cry?
None of that's gonna help ya, the victimizer's gonna do you over anyway, whatever you do, so you're better off dealing it back to him, the outcome's not going to be much worse, probably a lot better instead if you smack him hard enough to damage him where it really hurts.
A coward dies a thousand times, a brave man only once.
A fucking idiot or a mental case, yes. But coward, no.
My view is that the coward couldn't face death alone, so needed company,...a problem shared is a problem halved, so to speak.
Many suicidal persons do that, just gotta have someone with them as they leap the gap....cowards the lot of them.
Anyway, the mad bomber thinks it'll be all pure bliss for him when he presses that button, no pain or hell to be afraid of.
So where's the bravery in that?
I mentioned stupidity or mental illness.
Or more likely a combination of both.
Physically, yes. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DrB0b
Manchester attacks: MI5 probes bomber 'warnings'
MI5 is to hold an inquiry into the way it dealt with warnings from the public that the Manchester suicide bomber, Salman Abedi, was a potential threat.
The security service, which was alerted to Abedi's extremist views three times prior to last Monday's attack, will examine how it dealt with the warnings.
Home Secretary Amber Rudd said it was right for MI5 to review its processes.
Early on Monday a man, 23, was arrested in Shoreham-by-Sea, West Sussex, on suspicion of terrorism offences.
Greater Manchester Police said they had also executed search warrants at addresses in the Whalley Range area of Manchester and in Chester overnight.
In all, 14 men are now being questioned in connection with the investigation into the attack.
On Sunday, two men were arrested in Manchester - a 19-year-old man in Gorton and a 25-year-old man in the Old Trafford area.
MI5 has launched a "post incident investigation" into how the Manchester bomber was overlooked, while a separate report is being prepared for ministers and those who oversee the work of the service.
A Whitehall official said previously that Abedi was one of a "pool" of former subjects of interest whose risk remained "subject to review" by the security service and its partners.
Born in Manchester to Libyan parents. BBC Newsnight reported that when Abedi was 16 he fought against the Colonel Gaddafi regime with his father during the school holidays.
It was while at Manchester College that two people who knew Abedi have confirmed they made separate calls to an anti-terrorism hotline to warn the police about his extremist views.
Greater Manchester Police have made an appeal to the public for information about Abedi's movements since 18 May, when he returned to the UK from abroad.
The home secretary would not comment specifically on what the security service knew about Abedi, but insisted it was right for MI5 to review its processes because "the threat is always changing".
The Times is reporting that a "key" tool which gives law enforcement the power to stop Britons suspected of involvement in terrorist activity abroad at the UK border has only been used once it was introduced in 2015.
Ms Rudd said it was not for her to demand that a certain number of Temporary Exclusion Orders be used, but to make sure the security service has the "tools they can use" to protect the public.
"We need to put our efforts into protecting young people," she told BBC News. "People in our communities who are being targeted by Daesh [the Islamic State terror group] and fed a false ideology."
She said the government had "never understated" the threat of a terror attack in the UK, adding: "We have to level with people."
Reality Check: How can police stop terror suspects travelling?
Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act 2000 gives the police the power to stop, search and hold individuals at ports, airports and international railway stations.
Initially individuals could be questioned for up to nine hours - although a change in the guidelines means it is now up to six hours. The police also have the power to inspect electronic devices such as phones and laptops.
The police also have the power to seize travel documents for up to 14 days if they believe someone is travelling in order to engage in terrorist activity.
Another option is a Temporary Exclusion Order (TEO), which can be used against British citizens suspected of involvement in terrorist activity abroad. They are designed to stop suspects from re-entering the UK unless they give themselves up at the border.
Manchester attacks: MI5 probes bomber 'warnings' - BBC News
And that's the important one!Quote:
Originally Posted by ENTPhysically, yes. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DrB0b
Interesting march against hate ( islam?) in Manchester
wonder how the left will react?
Tommy Robinson has even roped in some fag organization , gays against sharia, guess he has his reasons
https://teakdoor.com/images/smilies1/You_Rock_Emoticon.gif
^ Perhaps they would be better served, marching against the involvement of the West in the middle East conflicts....
Just saying like... :chitown:
Manchester attack: Abedi bought most bomb parts 'himself'
31 May 2017
Manchester bomber Salman Abedi bought most of the components used to make the bomb himself, police have said.
Many of the suicide attacker's movements and actions were "carried out alone" in the four days prior to the attack, Russ Jackson, head of the North West counter terrorism unit, said.
But police have yet to rule out whether he was part of a wider network.
Officers earlier cordoned off a street in the Rusholme area of Manchester where a property was being searched.
Greater Manchester Police asked members of the public to avoid Banff Road, after the latest in a series of raids linked to their investigation.
Three men arrested over the 22 May attack were released without charge on Tuesday. One more person was released on Wednesday.
Det Ch Supt Jackson said much of the police investigation had been working through Abedi's last movements.
Officers have examined his movements on CCTV and other interactions he had with people as well as phone calls he made.
"Our enquiries show Abedi himself made most of the purchases of the core [bomb] components and what is becoming apparent is that many of his movements and actions have been carried out alone during the four days from him landing in the country and committing this awful attack," said Det Chief Supt Jackson.
However, it was "vital" that police make sure he is not part of a wider network and there were a "number of things" about this behaviour that were a concern, he added.
Det Ch Supt Jackson said police were keen to find out why Abedi kept going back to the Wilmslow Road area of the city and wanted to find the blue suitcase he used during those trips.
A total of 16 people have been arrested in connection with last Monday's attack. Six have been released without charge while 10 are still in custody.
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2017/06/3.jpg
Abedi with suitcase
The police investigation has moved into a different phase, with detectives trying to bring the various strands of information and evidence together to build a case against Salman Abedi's alleged co-conspirators.
Not surprisingly, some of those arrested in the flurry of police activity have been released without further action, and others may follow.
There's a big difference between the "reasonable grounds of suspicion" required to detain someone and the "realistic prospect of conviction" needed to charge them.
What's slightly confusing is that investigators now say they can't "rule out a wider network" whereas last week they spoke with near certainty about Abedi being part of a network.
The impression is there are still gaps in the police's understanding of what happened in the days and weeks before the atrocity.
Every police force in the UK has assisted in some way since the terror attack in Manchester, according to the National Police Chiefs Council.
Twenty-eight forces, as well as the National Crime Agency, have been helping police in Manchester on their investigation and the response to the bombing.
Det Ch Supt Jackson said police have made "huge progress" in the week since the attack but it will "take considerable time before we fully understand what has happened".
Manchester attack: Abedi bought most bomb parts 'himself' - BBC News
Could be, but buying the components does not make him the builder though it does help perpetuate the lone wolf myth which in turn keeps the gullible suitably dozed and docile.
Makes sense for a known bomb maker to have someone else do his shopping, and best would be the intended martyr.
There can't be many people still guessing what macho/pussy Tommy's reasons for that are.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue
Quite a blitzkrieg of a barnet the UKIP representative has. Where's the 'tache?
It seems the heavy-handed and downright brutally terrifying tactics of the weaponised police used to arrest the many muslims in the aftermath around Britain were in fact quite redundant and utterly disproportionate.
Blowing doors off lawfully residents' homes and then flinging the occupants to the ground holding loaded weapons to their heads and screaming threats of death if they so much move a muscle were actions of a fascist police state out of control.
I hope there will be an enquiry and legal action against these armed thugs and clearly quite stupid northern pig police commanders.
indeed, they should have taken a leaf out of the thai police handbook and phoned them up and asked them to pop down to the police station sometime in the next 6 months or so when they had a free 5 minutes.
They had to hurry up because of the upcoming Ramadan festivity :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
Sunday's commemorate concert has been sold out.
I'd be a bit suss about taking my children there.
But on the other hand, i expect security will be good.
If it makes the kids happy and remove any bad memories, why not.
Security will be tighter than a ducks arsehole. My mate's three kids have all gone to get tickets and he's in the bar.Quote:
Originally Posted by patsycat
A known terrorist, on a watch list, lugging a large suitcase in and out of bomb suppliers stores and no body noticed. Or they did an ordered Nelson.Quote:
Originally Posted by ENT
Are you trolling or are you an idiot?Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
So far I'm leaning towards 'idiot'.
The parts I've highlighted simply did not happen. wtf is a 'bomb suppliers store'? Somewhere that sells hydrogen peroxide? I must have missed their advertisements. :rolleyes:
Manchester attack: Police find 'significant' car
Police have placed a 100m cordon near Banff Road
Police investigating the Manchester bombing have found a car they say may be "significant" to their inquiry.
Officers have evacuated an area of the city while they assess the white Nissan Micra in Rusholme and are asking people to avoid the Banff Road area.
Speaking about the car find, Det Ch Supt Russ Jackson said it was "potentially a significant development".
"We are very interested in anything people can tell us about the movements of this car, and who was in it, over the past months," he added.
"We are also interested in any information about who may have had access to the car or who may have gone to and from it."
Meanwhile, two of the bomber's cousins have said they had no idea he was planning his attack.
Isaac and Abz Forjani were arrested by police after the attack - and were questioned for a week - but have since been released without charge.
They say they did not know about Abedi's extremist views - adding that he may have been radicalised abroad.
Isaac, 24, said: "It's not easy being connected to 22 lost, innocent lives.
"The fact that the person that did this is related to us by blood is something that's going to stay with me for the rest of my life.
"My thoughts are with the families of the victims. I really do feel for them.
"We went in, we could come out, we can try and move on with our lives. They've lost their loved ones."
The two brothers said they last saw Abedi three months before the attack, when he got his hair trimmed at Abz Forjani's barber shop.
Abz, 21, said he had a "pretty close relationship" with Abedi. He said his cousin was not part of "a big network".
He said: "I believe it was all done by one man, (who) developed some sort of thoughts in the past few years which he kept to himself, secretly to himself.
"He never shared it with any members of the family - if he would of, we could have done something to stop that happening.
"He never admitted extremist views - it was just political opinions, so it wasn't focused or aimed at a particular group," Abz added.
"The thought was he was just a religious man taking it way too far, becoming judgemental maybe.
"There's never been a hint of extremism."
The brothers also insisted they shared the same British values as everyone else.
"We're Mancunians ourselves," said Isaac.
The pair's younger brother Alharth, 19, is still in custody.
Sixteen people have been arrested over the bombing at an Ariana Grande concert and 10 remain in custody.
Manchester attack: Police find 'significant' car - BBC News
Mosques in Manchester are refusing to deal with bomber Salman Abedi’s body.
His corpse is currently being held in a morgue outside the city it has been reported and city authorities are believed to be doing ‘everything in their power’ to stop him being cremated, buried, or laid to rest in any way in the Greater Manchester area.
A final decision will be made as to what to do with the body after inquest hearings.
His body has not once ever been kept in the same place as his 22 victims.
Mosques refusing to bury body of suicide bomber Salman Abedi (From Asian Image)
Duplicate post.
They can stick it with Ian Brady's, still haven't found a place that'll accept his body either. I reckon they should stuff it with pigshit and set it up as a piñata in Picadilly Gardens.Quote:
Originally Posted by rickschoppers
Just misplace his body. It happens all the time.:chitown:
Family sues funeral home for losing body of loved one - NY Daily News
Obama dumped what was claimed to have been Osama Bin Laden's body in the sea.
HoHo has a rather overactive imagination.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyrilleAre you trolling or are you an idiot?Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
So far I'm leaning towards 'idiot'.
The parts I've highlighted simply did not happen. wtf is a 'bomb suppliers store'? Somewhere that sells hydrogen peroxide? I must have missed their advertisements. :rolleyes:
I'm not sure if these are his own posts or the voices in his head tell him what to write. Depends on whether he's forgotten his meds.
He's not trolling. He's an idiot and there are millions like him. I've always thought that people who come up with nonsense like that have an under-active imagination. They are unable to think anything but the most simplistic of thoughts, not even thoughts - more like reactions to glandular secretions, and even then they will normally allow others to do the thinking for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracudaHoHo has a rather overactive imagination.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyrilleAre you trolling or are you an idiot?Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
So far I'm leaning towards 'idiot'.
The parts I've highlighted simply did not happen. wtf is a 'bomb suppliers store'? Somewhere that sells hydrogen peroxide? I must have missed their advertisements. :rolleyes:
The One Love Manchester concert will be broadcast live on BBC One on Sunday from 6.55pm to 10pm, and will be available to watch on demand via BBC iPlayer.
It will also be on BBC radio, Capital radio and streamed online with a digital partner yet to be announced.
BBC director general Lord Hall said: "Bringing the nation together, the BBC is proud to be broadcasting what will undoubtedly be a moving tribute to the victims and their loved ones."
Who will present the coverage?
The BBC One coverage of the One Love Manchester benefit concert will be presented by Sara Cox and Ore Oduba, while Nick Grimshaw and Anita Rani will host backstage coverage from the concert itself.
Grimshaw and Rani will also be speaking from within the crowd at the event, the BBC has confirmed.
The radio coverage, which will be simulcast across all the different BBC stations listed above, will be presented by Scott Mills, Jo Whiley, Phil Williams and Becky Want.
The tickets, worth £40 each, sold out in less than 20 minutes on Thursday, June 1 as websites struggled under the weight of massive demand.
All net ticket proceeds of the show will go directly to the We Love Manchester Emergency fund, set up by Manchester City Council in partnership with the British Red Cross to support grieving families and victims of the attack.
The fund's total currently stands at more than £6 million, with Red Cross chief executive Mike Adamson praising the Grande's "gesture of solidarity".
All Grande fans who attended the pop star's targeted Manchester Arena gig will be given free passes to Sunday's concert regardless of where they purchased their tickets.
Registration to apply for the free tickets has been extended for those who were at last week's event when suicide bomber Salman Abedi detonated a device, killing 22 people and injuring dozens of others as fans left the venue.
Grande will be joined by several major pop and rock artists at Lancashire Cricket Club's Old Trafford ground in Manchester. These are the acts who have been confirmed so far:
Miley Cyrus
Pharrell Williams
Usher
Katy Perry
Niall Horan
Justin Bieber
Coldplay
Take That
Black Eyed Peas
Little Mix
Robbie Williams
That's musical terrorism, that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chittychangchang