Thread: 84 dead as lorry hits crowds celebrating Bastille day in France

Originally Posted by wasabi

It matters not if he was a bad Muslim, they all are taught that if they die a Martyr they get an automatic pass into heaven.
Getting into heaven just means killing a lot of non believers first.

Walid Hamou, a cousin of Bouhlel's wife Hajer Khalfallah, told MailOnline: 'Bouhlel was not religious. He did not go to the mosque, he did not pray, he did not observe Ramadan.'He drank alcohol, ate pork and took drugs. This is all forbidden under Islam.

He was not a Muslim, he was a s***. He beat his wife, my cousin, he was a nasty piece of work.

Bastille terror attack: Driver of truck named - World - NZ Herald News

Originally Posted by wasabi

It matters not if he was a bad Muslim, they all are taught that if they die a Martyr they get an automatic pass into heaven.
Getting into heaven just means killing a lot of non believers first.

Really....they are all taught this?

Originally Posted by wasabi

It matters not if he was a bad Muslim

There is one thing for sure about this horrific incident.

When he set out to commit this crime there is no way he could have known whether he was going to kill fellow muslims or not.

Seems to me he was an out and out nutter with personal not religious issues.

None of the previous Muslim mass murderers recently worried if some of their victims were Muslim or not.

Because he wasn't a devout Muslim didn't make him an apostate.
He was born and brought up as a Muslim and kept his Muslim religious first name, at least until he got his ID card.
Not all Muslims are strictly devout either.

I agree he was a nutter, and a wired up and violent misogynist one at that, as confirmed by his wife.

Yup personal issues drove him to suicide by cop, but at the bottom of it all, he believed he was free to do what he did, and if indoctrinated into Islam from an early age, as he likely was, I'm sure he could seize on a convenient verse from the Quran to bolster his resolve.

I'd also expect most Muslims to publicly distance themselves from his act, they don't want Islam's reputation further tainted.

The bleatings from Islamic groups and Muslims in general aren't full on condemnations of the murderer, more along the lines of "we're suffering too"....people are picking on us again.

So even if he wasn't a Muslim terrorist he was a Muslim terrorist and all Muslims are personally responsible for his actions.

Originally Posted by Troy

I find the method of attack shocking and quite horrible. Blaming terrorism and Islam for such an attack, before a full investigation has been carried out, is irresponsible and fails to address the social and economic problems within France.

Let's hope that France learn form this instead of hiding behind the 'religious wall'

French Prime Minister Manuel Valls says the man who drove a truck through crowds of revelers in Nice is a "terrorist linked to radical Islam."

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

So even if he wasn't a Muslim terrorist he was a Muslim terrorist and all Muslims are personally responsible for his actions.

So you side with murderes of innocent women and children

Originally Posted by wasabi

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

So even if he wasn't a Muslim terrorist he was a Muslim terrorist and all Muslims are personally responsible for his actions.

So you side with murderes of innocent women and children

That's a fucking stupid comment. There's no reasonable or rational way to interpret that from what I posted unless you're intentionally trying to distort it.

Was it an ill-advised attempt at irony?

Must be a message in why he chose Bastille Day to carry out the deed.
+ All other weapons found in his truck.

Texprat must have an alarm on his hearing aid. He had already started his Hate thread about an hour after this was announced on French TV.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Originally Posted by Troy

I find the method of attack shocking and quite horrible. Blaming terrorism and Islam for such an attack, before a full investigation has been carried out, is irresponsible and fails to address the social and economic problems within France.

Let's hope that France learn form this instead of hiding behind the 'religious wall'

French Prime Minister Manuel Valls says the man who drove a truck through crowds of revelers in Nice is a "terrorist linked to radical Islam."

WTF would he know?

Originally Posted by wasabi

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

So even if he wasn't a Muslim terrorist he was a Muslim terrorist and all Muslims are personally responsible for his actions.

So you side with murderes of innocent women and children

He wasn't, but plenty of people here do side with murderers of innocent women and children when they condone Israeli acts of aggression.

BBC PC wankers outdoing themselves:

Through the last 18 months of jihadist terror in France, a simple pattern is emerging: it keeps getting worse.
If the January 2015 attacks were aimed at specific groups - Jews and blasphemers - the November follow-up was more indiscriminate.
At the Bataclan and at the cafes the Islamists killed young adults, out being European hedonists.
This time, it's gone a step further.
In Nice, it is the people at large - families and groups of friends - doing nothing more provocative than attending a national celebration. Ten children were among the dead.
So what's next?

As the government contemplates its response to the atrocity, one thing is absolutely apparent. The most comprehensive security set-up in the world will not stop the kind of attack that took place on Thursday.

Attack on Nice brings danger to France closer to home - BBC News


really ?
that truck was let into the area , was parked up for hours ...

I don't blame you.

Attack on Nice: Five held by French police

Five people believed to be linked to the man who killed 84 people in Nice are in police custody, the Paris prosecutor's office says.

Three arrests were made on Saturday and two on Friday, including the man's estranged wife, Le Monde reported.

Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel drove a lorry into crowds marking Bastille Day on the Promenade des Anglais on Thursday before he was shot dead by police.
So-called Islamic State claimed one of its followers carried out the attack.

A news agency linked to the group, Amaq Agency, said: "He did the attack in response to calls to target the citizens of the coalition that is fighting the Islamic State."

'Extreme difficulty'
French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said Lahouaiej-Bouhlel seemed to have been "radicalised very quickly".
He said the "new type of attack... showed the extreme difficulty of the fight against terrorism".

Attack on Nice: Five held by French police - BBC News

Being the nice person that i am, i hope his children are taken into care and their names changed and they are young enough to not remember this. and that they are placed in loving families, because from what i have seen and read in the French press. they have not had the best of upbringings.

There are still at least 50 people in Intensive Care, including children.

Deporting the extended family back to Tunisia will make the next murdere think twice

Not a bad idea at all.

Originally Posted by wasabi

Deporting the extended family back to Tunisia will make the next murdere think twice

Oh dear, but then you will be infringing on their human rights. Diddums. They have a right etc etc etc.

Don't get me wrong, there are good and bad. We read, and two days ago saw, what the bad ones do. The rapes in Sweden, the rape of a young boy in Germany etc etc etc. the touching up of every young girl in a short dress during the Summer, and it goes on and on.

Europe says these men need to be educated in the ways of treating women in Europe, they go to the classes and then go out in packs and frighten young women. It is not working. There were two young boys who refused to shake hands with a female teacher in Switzerland. Because she was dirty!! In their eyes.

This guy and his truck, was brainwashed into what? Kill kill kill as many as you can.

Supposedly he was laughing as he drove. What a complete and utter wanker.

We, in Europe, are actually a bit frightened when the next attack will happen.

And you know what is so sad.

It'll probably go right over our heads, as another date in the diary. Like this one will, oh yeah that was Bastille day 2016. I sort of remember it.

Like it was an everyday thing.

Today i am so sad and feel sort of like i have a heavy heart, but in a few days i will probably feel ok. Or maybe not. this one hit right in the emotions.

But why wouldn't the deaths in turkey or other countries do the same?

Maybe because i feel close to France? I dunno.

Turns out the wog hadn't even got a drivers license necessary for the big truck ...

'He wanted the biggest, most powerful vehicle we have': Truck terrorist ordered a 'massive' 19-tonne lorry 'to create maximum number of victims' says garage boss

Truck terrorist Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel demanded the 'heaviest and most powerful' lorry from a rental company so he could kill the maximum number of people, the garage boss has revealed.

The manager of Via Location told of the moment she came face-to-face with the ISIS killer when he hired the 19-tonne lorry which became a weapon of mass murder.
'The terrorist demanded the biggest vehicle we have,' she said. 'The heaviest, the most powerful, the most massive, to create the maximum number of victims.
'We only rent out lorries here, not weapons, not Kalashnikovs. We are all very shocked. We all live in Nice and are thinking of the families.'

Nice truck terrorist ordered a 'massive' lorry 'to create maximum number of victims' | Daily Mail Online

The 31-year-old Tunisian, described by ISIS today as a 'soldier', used his credit card and driving licence to collect the vehicle from the garage in Saint-Laurent-du-Var, 30 minutes west of Nice on Monday.He was due to return the vehicle on Wednesday, 24 hours before he drove into crowds enjoying the July 14 Bastille Day celebrations on the Nice promenade.
Bouhlel did not have the correct driving licence to rent a lorry of that size, Le Figaro reported.
As the vehicle was a 19-tonne refrigerated lorry, he needed a 'C permit' licence, for which he would have required an extensive medical examination. 'C permits' expire every five years.
To qualify for one a driver must be at least 21 years old and have lived in France for at least six months, with a valid work permit.
The deposit for renting such a vehicle alone can run to thousands of Euros, and must be paid by credit card. The hire price is thought to be about £250 per day.
How the fanatic hired the lorry without this licence is unknown. MailOnline has sought comment from Via Location.
The firm's office, on an industrial estate surrounded by countryside, was locked up on Saturday as staff tried to come to terms with the tragedy.