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    This year on a train a Muslim coward came out the carriage toilet with an AK , two American serviceman jumped him and saved the lives of other passengers.
    Everybody must be taught this, that the crowd have to attack as one , pack the gunman.
    Watch documentaries of a herd of African Buffaloes being attacked by lions, see the fear on the Buffaloes eyes, but they know that they have to go forward, retreat is certan death.
    So these young people at Rock concert , thousands of them, are told to lie down by the two gunman and they obeyed. And then got executed on the floor in a passive position.
    Young people of today with no military training are soft, soft targets.
    You cannot wait for the police to turn up, fight , because you stand a better chance of surviving than whimpering into your smart phone.
    Get up and fight.

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    Just watched an IS video released earlier today. Armed french beardies talking french in what looks to be Raqqa taking credit for the attack and threatening more in Europe. On a lighter note some hot Kurdish women have liberated Shingal from IS. Why does this kind of thing never make the news, surely IS being defeated by Women is a wonderful thing?


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    You Worry Me

    Yes - we know the majority of muslims are peace loving and not to be judged by the actions of few...

    However - from an American Pilot in response to the 9-11 attacks.

    YOU WORRY ME! by American Airlines Pilot Captain John Maniscalco;

    "I've been trying to say this since 9-11 but you worry me. I wish you didn't. I wish when I walked down the streets of this country that I love, that your color and culture still blended with the beautiful human landscape we enjoy in this country. But you don't blend in anymore. I notice you, and it worries me. I notice you because I can't help it anymore. People from your homelands, professing to be Muslims, have been attacking and killing my fellow citizens and our friends for more than 20 years now. I don't fully understand their grievances and hate but I know that nothing can justify the inhumanity of their attacks.

    On September 11, nineteen ARAB MUSLIMS hijacked four jetliners in my country. They cut the throats of women in front of children and brutally stabbed to death others. They took control of those planes and crashed them into buildings killing thousands of proud fathers, loving sons, wise grandparents, elegant daughters, best friends, favorite coaches, fearless public servants, and children's mothers.

    The Palestinians Celebrated, The Iraqis were overjoyed as was most of the Arab world.

    So I notice you now. I don't want to be worried. I don't want to be consumed by the same rage and hate and prejudice that has destroyed the soul of these terrorists. But I need your help. As a rational American, trying to protect my country and family in an irrational and unsafe world, I must know how to tell the difference between you, and the Arab/Muslim terrorist.

    How do I differentiate between the true Arab/Muslim Americans and the Arab/Muslims in our communities who are attending our schools, enjoying our parks, and living in OUR communities under the protection of OUR constitution, while they plot the next attack that will slaughter these same good neighbors and children? The events of September 11th changed the answer. It is not my responsibility to determine which of you embraces our great country, with ALL of its religions, with ALL of its different citizens, with all of its faults. It is time for every Arab/Muslim in this country to determine it for me.

    I want to know, I demand to know, and I have a right to know whether or not you love America. Do you pledge allegiance to its flag? Do you proudly display it in front of your house, or on your car?

    Do you pray in your many daily prayers that Allah will bless this nation, that He will protect and prosper it? Or do you pray that Allah with destroy it in one of your "Jihads"? Are you thankful for the freedom that only this nation affords? A freedom that was paid for by the blood of hundreds of thousands of patriots who gave their lives for this country? Are you willing to preserve this freedom by paying the ultimate sacrifice? Do you love America? If this is your commitment, then I need YOU to start letting ME know about it.

    Your Muslim leaders in this nation should be flooding the media at this time with hard facts on your faith, and what hard actions you are taking as a community and as a religion to protect the United States of America Please, no more benign overtures of regret for the death of the innocent because I worry about who you regard as innocent. No more benign overtures of condemnation for the unprovoked attacks because I worry about what is unprovoked to you. I am not interested in any more sympathy...I am only interested in action.

    What will you do for America, our great country, at this time of crisis, at this time of war?
    I want to see Arab Muslims waving the AMERICAN flag in the streets. I want to hear you chanting "Allah Bless America ." I want to see young Arab/Muslim men enlisting in the military. I want to see a commitment of money, time, and emotion to the victims of this butchering and to this nation as a whole. The FBI has a list of over 400 people they want to talk to regarding the attack. Many of these people live and socialize in Muslim communities. You know them. You know where they are.

    Hand them over to us, now! But I have seen little even approaching this sort of action. Instead I have seen an already closed and secretive community close even tighter. You have disappeared from the streets. You have posted armed security guards at your facilities. You have threatened lawsuits. You have screamed for protection from reprisals.

    The very few Arab/Muslim representatives that HAVE appeared in the media were defensive and equivocating. They seemed more concerned with making sure that the United States proves who was responsible before taking action. They seemed more concerned with protecting their fellow Muslims from violence directed towards them in the United States and abroad than they did with supporting our country and denouncing "leaders" like Khadafi, Hussein, Farrakhan, and Arafat. If the true teachings of Islam proclaim tolerance and peace and love for all people then I want chapter and verse from the Koran and statements from popular Muslim leaders to back it up. What good is it if the teachings in the Koran are good and pure and true when your "leaders" are teaching fanatical interpretations, terrorism, and intolerance?

    It matters little how good Islam SHOULD BE if large numbers of the world's Muslims interpret the teachings of Mohammed incorrectly and adhere to a degenerative form of the religion. A form that has been demonstrated to us over and over again. A form whose structure is built upon a foundation of violence, death, and suicide. A form whose members are recruited from the prisons around the world. A form whose members (some as young as five years old) are seen day after day, week in and week out, year after year, marching in the streets around the world, burning effigies of our presidents, burning the American flag, shooting weapons into the air. A form whose members convert from a peaceful religion, only to take up arms against the great United States of America, the country of their birth. A form whose rules are so twisted, that their traveling members refuse to show their faces at airport security checkpoints, in the name of Islam.

    Do you and your fellow Muslims hate us because our women proudly show their faces in public rather than cover up like a shameful? Do you and your fellow Muslims hate us because we drink wine with dinner, or celebrate Christmas? Do you and your fellow Muslims hate us because we have befriended Israel, the ONLY civilized democratic nation in the entire Middle East?

    And if you and your fellow Muslims hate us, then why in the world are you even here? Are you here to take our money? Are you here to undermine our peace and stability? Are you here to destroy us? If so, I want you to leave. I want you to go back to your desert sandpit where women are treated like rats and dogs. I want you to take your religion, your friends, and your family back to your Islamic extremists, and STAY THERE! We will NEVER give in to your influence, your retarded mentality, your twisted, violent, intolerant religion.

    We will NEVER allow the attacks of September 11, or any others for that matter, to take away that which is so precious to us: Our rights under the greatest constitution in the world. I want to know where every Arab/Muslim in this country stands and I think it is my right and the right of every true citizen of this country to demand it. A right paid for by the blood of thousands of my brothers and sisters who died protecting the very constitution that is protecting you and your family. I am pleading with you to let me know. I want you here as my brother, my neighbor, my friend, as a fellow American. But there can be no gray areas or ambivalence regarding your allegiance and it is up to YOU, to show ME, where YOU stand. Until then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Too many on here are already on that bandwagon . . . everyone I speak to here (Muslims) condemn this absolutely . . . luckily we have pompeysbroke and Herman packing and going to fight in Syria and Iraq
    Well my Dear, since you brought up my name....

    Can any of those people you spoke to also openly condemn islam ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie
    We will NEVER allow the attacks of September 11, or any others for that matter, to take away that which is so precious to us: Our rights under the greatest constitution in the world. I want to know where every Arab/Muslim in this country stands and I think it is my right and the right of every true citizen of this country to demand it. A right paid for by the blood of thousands of my brothers and sisters who died protecting the very constitution that is protecting you and your family. I am pleading with you to let me know. I want you here as my brother, my neighbor, my friend, as a fellow American. But there can be no gray areas or ambivalence regarding your allegiance and it is up to YOU, to show ME, where YOU stand. Until then...
    Well said, and I understand the anger and the sentiment, especially when the enemy soldiers don't wear uniforms. But in the end I think he's rationalizing his hatred for some Muslims into bigotry against all Muslims.

    With slight modification, one could make the same speech exchanging Muslim for the NRA whenever there's a mass shooting of innocents in the States.

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    Apologies for the off-topic digression in news but...

    Quote Originally Posted by MrG
    Well said, and I understand the anger and the sentiment, especially when the enemy soldiers don't wear uniforms.
    My word, the irony! What do all the septics go on about? Militia and their precious second amendment...

    Your opening question for 10 is: Who destabilised the ME ?

    Destabilise, create a monster and then blame the monsters' creation on a religious belief and then ... blame evil on the devil...of your own making,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Apologies for the off-topic digression in news but...

    Quote Originally Posted by MrG
    Well said, and I understand the anger and the sentiment, especially when the enemy soldiers don't wear uniforms.
    My word, the irony! What do all the septics go on about? Militia and their precious second amendment...

    Your opening question for 10 is: Who destabilised the ME ?

    Destabilise, create a monster and then blame the monsters' creation on a religious belief and then ... blame evil on the devil...of your own making,
    Since when (Year) has the Middle East been destabilised ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
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    Apologies for the off-topic digression in news but...

    Quote Originally Posted by MrG
    Well said, and I understand the anger and the sentiment, especially when the enemy soldiers don't wear uniforms.
    My word, the irony! What do all the septics go on about? Militia and their precious second amendment...

    Your opening question for 10 is: Who destabilised the ME ?

    Destabilise, create a monster and then blame the monsters' creation on a religious belief and then ... blame evil on the devil...of your own making,
    Since when (Year) has the Middle East been destabilised ?
    Seriously? You don't know? Since 2003.

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    With ISIS getting its ass kicked in Syria and Iraq by the Kurds and coalition airstrikes their supporters in the west were always going to look for new softer targets. Big western cities are going to be prime targets for the considerable future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Too many on here are already on that bandwagon . . . everyone I speak to here (Muslims) condemn this absolutely . . . luckily we have pompeysbroke and Herman packing and going to fight in Syria and Iraq
    Well my Dear, since you brought up my name....

    Can any of those people you spoke to also openly condemn islam ?
    Think, Herman, think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
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    Apologies for the off-topic digression in news but...

    Quote Originally Posted by MrG
    Well said, and I understand the anger and the sentiment, especially when the enemy soldiers don't wear uniforms.
    My word, the irony! What do all the septics go on about? Militia and their precious second amendment...

    Your opening question for 10 is: Who destabilised the ME ?

    Destabilise, create a monster and then blame the monsters' creation on a religious belief and then ... blame evil on the devil...of your own making,
    Since when (Year) has the Middle East been destabilised ?
    Seriously? You don't know? Since 2003.
    Seriously ? Why not November 1979 ?
    Or maybe even before that ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
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    Too many on here are already on that bandwagon . . . everyone I speak to here (Muslims) condemn this absolutely . . . luckily we have pompeysbroke and Herman packing and going to fight in Syria and Iraq
    Well my Dear, since you brought up my name....

    Can any of those people you spoke to also openly condemn islam ?
    Think, Herman, think.
    Hmmm, please help me Stroller.
    I'am thinking, thinking.
    Ahhh, I got it...finnaly.
    PH please ask your homosexual friends in Malaysia first.

    Wanna help him Strolly ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
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    Apologies for the off-topic digression in news but...

    Quote Originally Posted by MrG
    Well said, and I understand the anger and the sentiment, especially when the enemy soldiers don't wear uniforms.
    My word, the irony! What do all the septics go on about? Militia and their precious second amendment...

    Your opening question for 10 is: Who destabilised the ME ?

    Destabilise, create a monster and then blame the monsters' creation on a religious belief and then ... blame evil on the devil...of your own making,
    Since when (Year) has the Middle East been destabilised ?
    Seriously? You don't know? Since 2003.
    Seriously ? Why not November 1979 ?
    Or maybe even before that ?
    Because 2003 was the year the West invaded Iraq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
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    Apologies for the off-topic digression in news but...



    My word, the irony! What do all the septics go on about? Militia and their precious second amendment...

    Your opening question for 10 is: Who destabilised the ME ?

    Destabilise, create a monster and then blame the monsters' creation on a religious belief and then ... blame evil on the devil...of your own making,
    Since when (Year) has the Middle East been destabilised ?
    Seriously? You don't know? Since 2003.
    Seriously ? Why not November 1979 ?
    Or maybe even before that ?
    Because 2003 was the year the West invaded Iraq.
    True, and I was against it just like Schroeder.
    But was not November 1979 the prelude/beginning of islamic terror ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
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    Since when (Year) has the Middle East been destabilised ?
    Seriously? You don't know? Since 2003.
    Seriously ? Why not November 1979 ?
    Or maybe even before that ?
    Because 2003 was the year the West invaded Iraq.
    True, and I was against it just like Schroeder.
    But was not November 1979 the prelude/beginning of islamic terror ?
    Are you saying this was all caused by Iran? That makes no sense at any level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
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    Seriously? You don't know? Since 2003.
    Seriously ? Why not November 1979 ?
    Or maybe even before that ?
    Because 2003 was the year the West invaded Iraq.
    True, and I was against it just like Schroeder.
    But was not November 1979 the prelude/beginning of islamic terror ?
    Are you saying this was all caused by Iran? That makes no sense at any level.
    No not at all. But islamic terror started at a islamic holy site...macabre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
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    Seriously? You don't know? Since 2003.
    Seriously ? Why not November 1979 ?
    Or maybe even before that ?
    Because 2003 was the year the West invaded Iraq.
    True, and I was against it just like Schroeder.
    But was not November 1979 the prelude/beginning of islamic terror ?
    Are you saying this was all caused by Iran? That makes no sense at any level.
    Iran condemned these attacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
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    Seriously ? Why not November 1979 ?
    Or maybe even before that ?
    Because 2003 was the year the West invaded Iraq.
    True, and I was against it just like Schroeder.
    But was not November 1979 the prelude/beginning of islamic terror ?
    Are you saying this was all caused by Iran? That makes no sense at any level.
    No not at all. But islamic terror started at a islamic holy site...macabre.
    If you want a date for the ultimate origin of this type of Islamism then October 1949 is probably the best bet. If you want a place then the place where modern takfiri jihadism originated was Colorado and, of course, Qutb's writing was fundamentally a development of ibn Wahab's anti-everybody beliefs which forms the basis of the State cult of the Saud dynasty.
    Last edited by DrB0b; 15-11-2015 at 04:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
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    Because 2003 was the year the West invaded Iraq.
    True, and I was against it just like Schroeder.
    But was not November 1979 the prelude/beginning of islamic terror ?
    Are you saying this was all caused by Iran? That makes no sense at any level.
    No not at all. But islamic terror started at a islamic holy site...macabre.
    If you want a date for the ultimate origin of this type of Islamism then October 1949 is probably the best bet. If you want a place then the place where modern takfiri jihadism originated was Colorado.
    I said before:

    Seriously ? Why not November 1979 ?
    Or maybe even before that ?

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    Well, you got the answer to your questions, Herman.



    Btw, I heard on the radio that an army of Islamist refugees is marching to the Porta Westfalica to make their new home there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    Until that majority stands up against the extremists and take their religion and life philosophy back from them I blame every Muslim for what is happening.
    Yeah? Well that is exactly the same mindset that perpetuates this kind of atrocity.

    They blame all of us for not standing up against our extremist leaders who kill and maim indiscriminately in their lands.

    An eye for an eye leaves the world blind. Your average Muslim going about their business is no more responsible for this crime against humanity than your average westeerner is who happens to live in a country whose govt decided to go play soldiers in the ME.

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    Even the lass radical ones have a similar mind set to the more radical


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    Quote Originally Posted by khmen View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    Until that majority stands up against the extremists and take their religion and life philosophy back from them I blame every Muslim for what is happening.
    Yeah? Well that is exactly the same mindset that perpetuates this kind of atrocity.

    They blame all of us for not standing up against our extremist leaders who kill and maim indiscriminately in their lands.

    An eye for an eye leaves the world blind. Your average Muslim going about their business is no more responsible for this crime against humanity than your average westeerner is who happens to live in a country whose govt decided to go play soldiers in the ME.
    The haters don't seem to understand that the overwhelming majority of those actually fighting ISIS are Muslims. While all they can muster is a shaking of their fists and specks of spittle flying about their bedsits.

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    For those who can understand it, here is the IS statement on the murders in Paris
    https://ia801508.us.archive.org/10/i...anceArabic.mp3

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman
    Can any of those people you spoke to also openly condemn islam ?
    Why should they? Why should Muslims condemn Islam? Why do you put such infantile arguments out there?
    Quote Originally Posted by stroller
    Think, Herman, think.
    He is incapable of that, it seems
    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman
    PH please ask your homosexual friends in Malaysia first.
    Ask them what? There are homosexuals here - what would you have them do?
    Why are you now interested in Malaysian homosexuals?

    Quote Originally Posted by khmen
    An eye for an eye leaves the world blind. Your average Muslim going about their business is no more responsible for this crime against humanity than your average westeerner is who happens to live in a country whose govt decided to go play soldiers in the ME.
    I've stated the same before - it is a Herman-style thinking.

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