Thread: 'Shootings' and 'machete attack' in south east London: latest

Originally Posted by pseudolus

You don't quite understand what a false flag is, do ya, mao say ajarn.

More likely the problem is that I do.

Who, if this was a false flag beheading operation, would you say was actually behind it, if not the VOICE of radical Islam?

Originally Posted by mao say dung

So... it wuz da jooz? Ultimately, what isn't really?

You calling me a self hater again, are you? for your info, it is very hard for me to blame jewish people. However, US middle east policy is the cause of the radicalization of islamists - even the 9/11 commission states that US support of Israel was the primary motivation behind the attacks. Go read it.

Originally Posted by mao say dung

Who, if this was a false flag beheading operation, would you say was actually behind it, if not the VOICE of radical Islam?

I never said it was a false flag operation. I said others might. A false flag operation would imply that the Britain itself organised the attack in the same way that the US secret services regularly attack US targets to push bills through and get increased funding.

Originally Posted by Bangyai

'Shootings' and 'machete attack' in south east London: latest

Follow live coverage as police deal with what is believed to be two shootings and a machete attack in Woolwich, south east London.

Woolwich stabbing / beheading in John Wilson Street SE18 Photo: @BietLe_


By Daily Telegraph reporters

4:41PM BST 22 May 2013


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17.35 The killing was likely to be a politcally motivated Islamist terror attack, sources tell Sky News.

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17.28 Theresa May, the Home Secretary, has summoned a Cobra meeting, the BBC reports. The meetings are held when the Government is dealing with an emergency.

17.23 The Ministry of Defence says it is urgently looking at the reports that the incident involved a soldier. The incident occurred some 200 yards from the Royal Artillery Barracks, adjacent to Woolwich Common, the historical home of the Royal Artillery.

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The barracks, also known as the Woolwich station, now houses a number of the King's Troop Royal Horse Artillery and independent companies of the Grenadier and Coldstream Guards.

17.14 The witness who spoke to LBC, called James, says there were "brave women" present who were shielding the victim at the scene.
He tells the radio station: "We saw clearly two knives, meat cleavers. They were big kitchen knives like you would use in a butcher's. They were hacking at this poor guy. We thought they were trying to remove organs from him.
"These two guys were crazed, they were not there, they were just animals. They then dragged him from the pavement and dumped his body in the middle of the road.
"They took 20 minutes to arrive, the police - the armed response.
"There was only a few people at first, then traffic began to build up because people were getting out of their cars to shout at them. They were taking no notice, they were standing there, I think they were proud of what they were doing.


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See what appeasement gets you?

Originally Posted by pseudolus

You calling me a self hater again, are you? for your info, it is very hard for me to blame jewish people.

No. pseudo, I'm not. I have no interest in your constant implications that you are Jewish. I don't care if you're a full-breed Labrador Retriever. Your obsession with and defense of religiously motivated violence sickens me. As a liberal-democrat, I think all religions are equal(ly worthless in a modern political sense).

And, no, pseudo, you don't. The vitriol just pours out of you.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by socal

Fact is it was a killing in the name of Islam.

Or did I miss the part where the guy stole his bike ?

George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq'

How many lives lost? lol

2 black lads, turn to islam, and hack to death some lad in the street. the more vitriol sent towards people od Islam, the more support there will be for the US Middles East policy and the more of these types of attacks will happen. Theres a simple fact for you.

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441 is a United Nations Security Council resolution adopted unanimously by the United Nations Security Council on 8 November 2002, offering Iraq under Saddam Hussein "a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations"

On 8 November 2002, the Security Council passed Resolution 1441 by a unanimous 15–0 vote; Russia, China, France, and Arab countries such as Syria voted in favor, giving Resolution 1441 wider support than even the 1990 Gulf War resolution.

No more Bush references please

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Originally Posted by socal

Fact is it was a killing in the name of Islam.

And when a Christian nutter kills an abortion doctor in the name of Christianity, do you label all Christians as violent nutters?

This guy sums up these kinds of nutters quite well.

Originally Posted by socal

No more Bush references please

Take away the Dubya is at fault line and for most of the apologists, it's all they have...

Originally Posted by socal

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by socal

What if it was your kid that was killed in the name of Islam in your backyard ?

Is this any different from a killer saying a voice in his head made him do it? All religion is fake BS made up to incite one group of people to kill another group or simply to control them to accept poverty. If it were my son it wouldn't make a difference if the attacker was muslim, catholic or third adventist hoppists or just a simple nutcase with Elvis talking to him in his sleep telling him to kill. The fact is the kid is dead, and that is the tragedy.

Fact is it was a killing in the name of Islam.

Or did I miss the part where the guy stole his bike ?

Are you sure about that? All I've seen about the claim is comments from the news media, who are not known for their accuracy whilst playing first response story tellers, to the effect that a witness heard Islamist claims made during the attack. That may or may not be true. If it's true, the little bastard may be making a false claim about is motives. So far, he and his mate are similar to the axe man who hacked PC Blakelock to death. That killer came from the same stable as this pair.

It's interesting that Cameron rushed back from France at double speed. Either he knows something the public don't or he too is jumping on the Islamic terror bandwagon.

Let's just see what real information comes out.

Originally Posted by Morden

Originally Posted by socal

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by socal

What if it was your kid that was killed in the name of Islam in your backyard ?

Is this any different from a killer saying a voice in his head made him do it? All religion is fake BS made up to incite one group of people to kill another group or simply to control them to accept poverty. If it were my son it wouldn't make a difference if the attacker was muslim, catholic or third adventist hoppists or just a simple nutcase with Elvis talking to him in his sleep telling him to kill. The fact is the kid is dead, and that is the tragedy.

Fact is it was a killing in the name of Islam.

Or did I miss the part where the guy stole his bike ?

Are you sure about that? All I've seen about the claim is comments from the news media, who are not known for their accuracy whilst playing first response story tellers, to the effect that a witness heard Islamist claims made during the attack. That may or may not be true. If it's true, the little bastard may be making a false claim about is motives. So far, he and his mate are similar to the axe man who hacked PC Blakelock to death. That killer came from the same stable as this pair.

It's interesting that Cameron rushed back from France at double speed. Either he knows something the public don't or he too is jumping on the Islamic terror bandwagon.

Let's just see what real information comes out.

We have another that thinks this was over a stolen bike. Noted...

Originally Posted by palexxxx

^ what language is this? Seems like they need to teach some English over there.

Its a form of plastic Mockney ,, any one who was born within ( nowadays ) 300 miles of Bow Bells has to drivel on in this garbage to mark out and establish they're manor " innit "

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Piers Morgan: Why, How Dare a Foreigner Like Dana Loesch Take an Aggressive Political Position on a Horrific Attack in My Home Country!

He can't believe the affrontery of a foreigner offering pungent commentary on a horrific crime shortly after it has occurred, nor the gall of this interloper to dare to tell a country of which she is not a citizen what gun-control laws they ought to have to prevent such crimes.

Piers Morgan ✔ @piersmorgan Can't stomach @DLoesch goading Brits with her outrageous tweeting re beheaded soldier story. Unfollowed, and banned from my show.

So, she's now banded from his show!

Do you know what she said that upset him? Perhaps she was doing the usual American trick of telling the rest of the world how to live. They don't like it back, those Yanks. Dish it out and then get shitty if someone hands it back.

Piers Morgan has tried to awaken the American conscience to what the country is doing to itself as regards mass killings. It seems that many Americans agree with him.

Here's a video of the men explaining their motive, which it is feared we may never fully understand.

Probably Tea Party.

Originally Posted by socal

Originally Posted by Morden

Originally Posted by socal

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by socal

What if it was your kid that was killed in the name of Islam in your backyard ?

Is this any different from a killer saying a voice in his head made him do it? All religion is fake BS made up to incite one group of people to kill another group or simply to control them to accept poverty. If it were my son it wouldn't make a difference if the attacker was muslim, catholic or third adventist hoppists or just a simple nutcase with Elvis talking to him in his sleep telling him to kill. The fact is the kid is dead, and that is the tragedy.

Fact is it was a killing in the name of Islam.

Or did I miss the part where the guy stole his bike ?

Are you sure about that? All I've seen about the claim is comments from the news media, who are not known for their accuracy whilst playing first response story tellers, to the effect that a witness heard Islamist claims made during the attack. That may or may not be true. If it's true, the little bastard may be making a false claim about is motives. So far, he and his mate are similar to the axe man who hacked PC Blakelock to death. That killer came from the same stable as this pair.

It's interesting that Cameron rushed back from France at double speed. Either he knows something the public don't or he too is jumping on the Islamic terror bandwagon.

Let's just see what real information comes out.

We have another that thinks this was over a stolen bike. Noted...

I have no idea what it's about and am prepared to wait for information rather than follow the news media and fill in the gaps myself.

Originally Posted by Morden

Do you know what she said that upset him? Perhaps she was doing the usual American trick of telling the rest of the world how to live. They don't like it back, those Yanks. Dish it out and then get shitty if someone hands it back.

Irony really has been lost in Britain...

Originally Posted by Neo

Are they calling it terrorism because they killed a squaddie? If so that's pretty weak and debases the word to a new low.

Wouldn't be the first time in London a couple of coons have pulled out blades and killed someone. I haven't heard anything about the events leading up to the attack, what is the significance of the crashed car? Was the squaddie in uniform or on duty?

Not condoning murder and seems they got justice at the hands of the police, but terrorism? The case for terrorism gets weaker if this is the face of it.

Are you kidding us?

Note the men announced "you will never be safe in your country" on video.

Woolwich soldier killer on VIDEO!!!! Machete Killer talks on camera calmly! - YouTub

Originally Posted by pseudolus

^^^ Piwi outs himself formerly as an BNP and EDL supporter then. Little surprise there really. Their average membership has an IQ in the low 60's according to this report and you seem to fit straight into this bracket.

Anyway, stick to the issue. For some reason a couple of blacks have joined Islam and then been radicalised to commit an attack. Or, and expect to see this a lot in the near future, this is a false flag attack as suggested by the "beheaded" reports in the press straight away when the only eye witness next to the body could not tell if the man was alive or dead except through taking a pulse; the chaps looking bewildered and upset as opposed to angry that you would expect - all the hall marks of someone hypnotized; them saying they would attack all people, yet stood around waiting for the police armed response unit (that took 20 minutes to get there from 2 minutes away), and then rushed towards what would be certain death.

Mean while in the US, another boston bomber suspect was assassinated by the FBI....

No I asked a simple question , do you yourself fully support what the Islamics had to say about Sharia law in the UK and Europe in the video? , you are simply (true to your colours) refusing to answer the question , if it was part of the labour party Manifesto in the next General Election that Sharia law was to be implemented FOR ALL how many people do YOU think would vote labour ? and would those tens of millions of voters who told them to stick sharia up their arse be regarded by YOU as some how Islamaphobe extremists , this is our Country FFS why should we grovel and bow down to the fucking rambllings of some spaced out 8th century phedo desert nomad?

Damn I just posted this as I hadn't seen this thread... Well the title threw me off a bit. Anyways I think the amount of time it took police to arrive is terrible, 20 minutes for officers to arrive? The unarmed coppers could have at least went to the seen before to see what could or could not be done.

What a horrible state the UK is currently in. What will it take for the country to wake up and start actively seeking these types of people and shipping them off. The human rights of non UK born citizens should be of no concern .. The concern should be sending them home so that they can be dealt with by their own.

Disgusting. RIP to the fallen soldier.

Originally Posted by Neo

Are they calling it terrorism because they killed a squaddie? If so that's pretty weak and debases the word to a new low.

Wouldn't be the first time in London a couple of coons have pulled out blades and killed someone. I haven't heard anything about the events leading up to the attack, what is the significance of the crashed car? Was the squaddie in uniform or on duty?

Not condoning murder and seems they got justice at the hands of the police, but terrorism? The case for terrorism gets weaker if this is the face of it.

He was in civvies, wearing a military charity shirt.

It's said that the car knocked him down and then he was attacked up against the wall.

Let's wait for more information later today but it looks more like an opportunist attack than a planned one.

It seems the Met police may have been taking lessons from their Boston compatriots in that it took them nearly 30 minutes before attending the scene during which time many members of the public were accosted by these murdering savages or mingled with them in surreal ignorance of events such as that black woman squeezing past one of them with her shopping as he ranted at someone filming his antics.

Sometimes, I think the entire world' s authorities have taken a stupid pill.

Thirty fucking minutes.

Unbelievable really. Two buck niggers wielding knives and a meat cleaver with bloodstained hands and a butchered body lying in the middle of a London thoroughfare in broad daylight and it takes these numoties thirty fucking minutes to secure the scene.

Rather think the Commisioner has some explaining to do but then, it'll no doubt be some anodyne, mumbling excuse clouded in jargonese evading the issue.

Thirty fucking minutes. It' s really mind boggling just how totally, fucking inept the police have become. And if one of them trips over a fucking pavement or is called a poof or lezzie and they claim thousands of ££ in compensation.

There's a point worth making here.

If these guys had been in the US, they would have been able to take AR15's into a school, cinema or shopping mall and taken out twenty odd people in a few minutes.

^Why not send the Yanks an email and tell them how to live? Seems youse've got it all worked out over there.

It gets worse. Looking at those dozy coppers who eventually turned up one really does begin to wonder just how fucking stupid one has to be to become one.

Instead of ensuring that all those who were present during the 30 minutes it took them to turn up remained as material witnesses, the fucking clodhopping morons aggressively push everyone back and tell them more or less to fuck off, seemingly more intent on deflecting the quite natural criticism of their tardy response.

Truly, a bunch of wooden-topped fuckwits.

Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, the Commissioner of the Met, must be called to account fir this unutterable shambles.