What's so bad about TEFLing?

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12-08-2011, 01:33 PM
Thormaturge

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Originally Posted by natalie8

I was working at a large well known American company. The people there were really great too. They had to have good English for their jobs and they would always ask me for help.

Must have been quite a good bunch. Most Americans don't seem to realise they need help with their English. :)
12-08-2011, 01:35 PM
Thormaturge

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Originally Posted by terry57

^

Don't mind Special Brew myself. :)

To be fair, that picture was taken in the staff room.

I don't believe he drinks on the job.
12-08-2011, 01:35 PM
withnallstoke

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Originally Posted by Thormaturge

Most Americans don't seem to realise they need help with their English.

:rofl:
12-08-2011, 01:39 PM
natalie8

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Originally Posted by nidhogg

Not anything against your friend (if he was a man),

My friend is a woman. :)

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Originally Posted by Thormaturge

Most Americans don't seem to realise they need help with their English.

5555555, the employees are Thai.
12-08-2011, 02:04 PM
Fondles

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Originally Posted by Loy Toy

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Originally Posted by sabaii sabaii

Let me think we got Sir Wilson doin it in Jakarta, if Tezza's right

Thormaturge hzas to be one, workin with kids, or animals, or fish, drive you insane

Chairman Mao ?
Anymore ?

I suppose all of us farang that are here working legally are teachers in some way, shape or form.

If the Thais knew how to do stuff themselves we in most cases wouldn't get a look in.

Amusingly one off my staff had a spanner slip the other day and belted his knuckles, rather loudly he yelped "fuck you cunty bolt", god bless him.
12-08-2011, 05:18 PM
klong toey

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Originally Posted by terry57

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Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog

The biggest, most shining star on this board teaches English to Thais.

Friggin DD, always new he was not a builder. :rolleyes:

I think your barking up the wrong tree.
Wonder if he knew Grasshopper.
12-08-2011, 06:43 PM
terry57

^

You think too mut, already new that. :rolleyes:
12-08-2011, 06:58 PM
Marmite the Dog

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Originally Posted by sabaii sabaii

Let me think we got Sir Wilson doin it in Jakarta, if Tezza's right

Tezza's wrong.
12-08-2011, 07:08 PM
terry57

^

Could be, Willy tells me that he is but obviously bullshitting me as usual.

Carry on.

Ok Willy, what the fok are you doing in Jakarta besides playing cricket and spanking your monkey.
12-08-2011, 07:20 PM
BaitongBoy

^Not much more to life than that...for some...
12-08-2011, 07:27 PM
Marmite the Dog

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Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog

The biggest, most shining star on this board teaches English to Thais, though it is never disclosed publicly. However, I cannot reveal any further information as it is privileged.

I hate it when people say stuff like this, but don't say who.

In the spirit of the thread, most TDers I know who teach do so at schools/unis rather than language schools. Not sure why, as I would've thought there were more language school teachers knocking about.
12-08-2011, 07:36 PM
The Ghost Of The Moog

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Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

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Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog

The biggest, most shining star on this board teaches English to Thais, though it is never disclosed publicly. However, I cannot reveal any further information as it is privileged.

I hate it when people say stuff like this, but don't say who.

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Yeah, apologies for that. But it doesnt really matter who it is. Point being that people do feel a bit shy about the TEFL closet coming off. Silly really and they shouldn't feel like that, - being a teacher is a good thing - but thats how it is for some.
13-08-2011, 05:00 AM
barbaro

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Originally Posted by Neo

TEFLer and TEFLing seem to get thrown about as a regular insult on this forum.
Is it simply a jealous outburst by those incapable of stringing a sentence together against their better educated adversaries, or is TEFL truly the lowest form of employment known to man and deserving of derision?

Low form of employment? Depends on which country.

In Thailand, in many (but not all cases) yes.

What about IELTS, TOEFL iBT, TOEIC, and corporates? It's needed. There is a demand in some countries.
13-08-2011, 07:30 AM
Marmite the Dog

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Originally Posted by barbaro

What about IELTS, TOEFL iBT, TOEIC, and corporates?

Don't confuse the knockers.
13-08-2011, 08:12 AM
Thormaturge

Maths al fresco.

I've just finished two and I need one more....

Private tuition Thai style.

https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2011/08/1699.jpg
13-08-2011, 09:23 AM
DJ Pat

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What's so bad about TEFLing?

Having to wash clothes by hand when in between jobs

Only being able to eat street food when you wanna spent all your cash on alcohol

Having to teach with no shoes on

Earning 600 Baht on a rainy evening all the way down Rama 2 then getting soaked on the way home

Being stranded across the river at 9.30pm with no buses coming and not enough cash to spare for a taxi
13-08-2011, 03:21 PM
chitown

Pat, could it be that you are just poor at managing your money?

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Originally Posted by DJ Pat

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What's so bad about TEFLing?

Having to wash clothes by hand when in between jobs

Only being able to eat street food when you wanna spent all your cash on alcohol

Having to teach with no shoes on

Earning 600 Baht on a rainy evening all the way down Rama 2 then getting soaked on the way home

Being stranded across the river at 9.30pm with no buses coming and not enough cash to spare for a taxi
13-08-2011, 03:37 PM
grasshopper

I have the utmost sympathy for the dedicated ones on a miserly salary. I tried it once but had to give it up before I strangled one of the little bastards. The girls though, ermm, that's another story altogether and, NO, I never interfered with one ever. Although one was hot for it.
The depressing thing was the standard of the privately run school in Saigon. The owner said to me: "nobody wants to start in a lower class." Of course not!
13-08-2011, 04:32 PM
terry57

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Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog

Silly really and they shouldn't feel like that, - being a teacher is a good thing - but thats how it is for some.

A fully Qualified Teacher is an honorable and respected profession, something to be proud of.

I suppose if you bought your qualification on Ko-San Road or just done a 30 day course it is not.
13-08-2011, 05:24 PM
barbaro

I also to examinations now for a British organization that pays for my travel, food, hotel (of course) and pays me $45 USD per hour. I do the testing about 15 times per year.

I haven't taught General English in a long time.
13-08-2011, 07:03 PM
DJ Pat

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Originally Posted by chitown

Pat, could it be that you are just poor at managing your money?

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Originally Posted by DJ Pat

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What's so bad about TEFLing?

Having to wash clothes by hand when in between jobs

Only being able to eat street food when you wanna spent all your cash on alcohol

Having to teach with no shoes on

Earning 600 Baht on a rainy evening all the way down Rama 2 then getting soaked on the way home

Being stranded across the river at 9.30pm with no buses coming and not enough cash to spare for a taxi

Yes, very bad, I should have added it to the list.
14-08-2011, 01:23 AM
Carrabow

Why does TEFLing sound like some kind of Non-Stick Coating? Are you guys hiding something? :)
14-08-2011, 02:05 AM
DJ Pat

^You mean TEFL-ers think the sun shines out of their arse?

Indeed, some do, especially the types who hang out with real expats who have real jobs and not teaching. They wish they weren't teaching and they will not tell you they teach unless you get really deep in conversation or they get drunk and let slip.

Some also call themselves teaching consultants, as if they are in charge of several farang TEFL-ers and they are too good themselves to take to the classroom, where in reality they are mere teachers like the rest. I met many of these, and it took me a year or so of being a bit 'jealous' until I sussed these people out for what they were.

Over time you also suss out a few perverts who only teach kids to satisfy their perversions, the ones I met even had the balls to say to me how pretty some of the little girls were. Or the gay blokes who revel in being in a room full of teenage boys misbehaving.

A downside of the TEFL-ing industry in Thailand.
14-08-2011, 08:49 PM
sabaii sabaii

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Originally Posted by DJ Pat

the ones I met even had the balls to say to me how pretty some of the little girls were. Or the gay blokes who revel in being in a room full of teenage boys misbehaving.

A downside of the TEFL-ing industry in Thailand.

What did you do about it Pat ?

Give em a good smack ?

Or was that their response to you telling them about rimming your cousin ?
15-08-2011, 12:12 AM
DJ Pat

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Originally Posted by sabaii sabaii

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Originally Posted by DJ Pat

the ones I met even had the balls to say to me how pretty some of the little girls were. Or the gay blokes who revel in being in a room full of teenage boys misbehaving.

A downside of the TEFL-ing industry in Thailand.

What did you do about it Pat ?

Give em a good smack ?

Or was that their response to you telling them about rimming your cousin ?

What can you do? Dog them in? You have to prove these things I suppose but as I am a native speaker I can tell by the tone of his admiration.

But tell a Thai member of staff about this and all you'd get in return is a smile and an ''ok kaa'' with nothing being done about it.
15-08-2011, 12:14 AM
DJ Pat

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Originally Posted by sabaii sabaii

Or was that their response to you telling them about rimming your cousin ?

At least my cousin is old enough to make her own decisions, the younger cousin who is 18 is far too childish to be eligible for my attentions, give it a couple of years or so.
15-08-2011, 10:28 AM
Stumpy

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Originally Posted by DJ Pat

Over time you also suss out a few perverts who only teach kids to satisfy their perversions, the ones I met even had the balls to say to me how pretty some of the little girls were. Or the gay blokes who revel in being in a room full of teenage boys misbehaving.

A downside of the TEFL-ing industry in Thailand.

^ This part really creeps me the Fok out....seriously. I would never teach here primarily due to those very perceptions and the fact it is probably more prevalent then we want to believe. There are quite a few peado's that fled their countries, moved here and to neighboring countries to live out their sick demented fantasies.

I think this is why TEFL'ers get that "Raised Eyebrow" look from others.

Bad part is there are teachers who really have a deep passion to educate and they get lumped into the dirtbags bucket.
15-08-2011, 07:03 PM
terry57

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Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog

Being a teacher is a good thing - but thats how it is for some.

Being a teacher in Australia is hard work, there power has been taken away by the PC brigade which has removed there power as far as any physical discipline is concerned.

When I say that I refer to the primary school pupils where in my time it was out with the cane and banged the point home to not fok around.

We have many long term Quality teachers in Perth and they command respect from the vast majority of the population, the ones that don't respect them are the scum that are worthless and not worthy of a quality teachers time.

Totally different story from the 30 day TEFLling applicants in Thailand.

Also a long term quality teachers pulls a nice wedge and light years ahead of a 30 K TEFLer in Thailand.
15-08-2011, 07:13 PM
terry57

^

Actually I'll just add a bit more to that as far as recompense goes.

A fully qualified teacher with 5-6 years under the belt working in the city with no extra perks would be looking at 80K AUD dollars.

Not a fortune but not bad, if they go country they will be looking at a lot more with there allowance.

There's Teachers and Teachers but never confuse the 30 day TEFLer with a quality Teacher as any fok up can be a 30 day Teacher where as a quality Teacher must put the hard yards in.
15-08-2011, 07:13 PM
DrAndy

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Originally Posted by terry57

posters spelling

shouldn't that be "poster's spelling"?
15-08-2011, 07:16 PM
Marmite the Dog

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Originally Posted by terry57

When I say that I refer to the primary school pupils where in my time it was out with the cane and banged the point home to not fok around.

They should've caned you for your crap spelling as well.
15-08-2011, 07:17 PM
DrAndy

I reckon that TEFLing is a great way to live in a country of your choice, for a while

I would recommend it to any young person who would like to find out more about any country that fascinates them - much better than just travelling around skimming the surface
15-08-2011, 07:18 PM
DrAndy

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Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

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Originally Posted by terry57

When I say that I refer to the primary school pupils where in my time it was out with the cane and banged the point home to not fok around.

They should've caned you for your crap spelling as well.

typical TEFLer remark, according to Terry in post #18
15-08-2011, 07:25 PM
terry57

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Originally Posted by JPPR2

Bad part is there are teachers who really have a deep passion to educate and they get lumped into the dirtbags bucket.

Yes exactly, its a dogs breakfast that this happens but its a unsolvable problem given the shit bags that move to Thailand.

The genuine Teachers get banged in with the fok ups and unfortunately theres nothing that can be done about that.

Its the price one must pay for being able to move to Thailand and want to be a Teacher.

Every foker will give you a second look once they Know this fact.
15-08-2011, 07:32 PM
terry57

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Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

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Originally Posted by terry57

When I say that I refer to the primary school pupils where in my time it was out with the cane and banged the point home to not fok around.

They should've caned you for your crap spelling as well.

Yes I agree, the Head Master canned the fok out of me and my mate in grade 7 but that was for pissing over the wall onto the girls heads in there shitter.

Had fok all to do with my spelling or grammar. :)
15-08-2011, 07:36 PM
terry57

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Originally Posted by DrAndy

typical TEFLer remark, according to Terry in post #18

Welcome back Doc, its been awesome without you but your gaff is still a winner. :)
15-08-2011, 07:37 PM
kingwilly

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Originally Posted by terry57

Being a teacher in Australia is hard work, there power has been taken away by the PC brigade which has removed there power as far as any physical discipline is concerned.

That's not the reason it is hard work. Any teacher that has to resort to physical discipline has already lost.
15-08-2011, 07:45 PM
terry57

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Your more than likely correct Willy but it worked on my mates and my self back in the 70's.

I will never debate that question with you because its so friggin hard knowing what way to approach the discipline question these days.

The only real path to a good education is to have quality parents that embellish the importance of respect for adults and Teachers.
15-08-2011, 07:58 PM
terry57

I can see JJ scouting out this thread.

JJ is an educator in the Northern Australia with our Aboriginals and I will even give JJ some respect for doing this.
15-08-2011, 07:59 PM
kingwilly

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Originally Posted by terry57

but it worked on my mates and my self back in the 70's.

did it really ? Think back to some of your teachers, the ones that hit you all the time ? Surely, you (or your mates) just laughed at them, tried to wind them up more. It's like being on teakdoor and once someone starts losing it, you do everything you can to wind them up.

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Originally Posted by terry57

I will never debate that question with you because its so friggin hard knowing what way to approach the discipline question these days.

Combination of things, start with clear rules and boundaries, a level of scalability of punishments, teachers and principals following up promptly and efficiently, teachers need to earn respect instead of demanding it, teachers also need to show a genuine interest in the students, eg: helping coach their footy team, organising school camps, being involved in school plays, that sort of thing. Teachers need to be fair and consistent, they do not need to try and be the students' best friends.

Number one rule is do not make a threat that they cannot back up and not to get involved in a public confrontation. Discipline starts on the first day and needs to be built up over time.

That is why one teacher can walk into a room and with one raised eyebrow can have an entire class silent and behaved whereas another can walk into a room and start screaming and yelling and still not get any student to listen or look up.

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Originally Posted by terry57

The only real path to a good education is to have quality parents that embellish the importance of respect for adults and Teachers.

Certainly helps a lot.

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