Thread: Is going to a university a complete waste of time and money?

Originally Posted by nidhogg

Blackgang fucks em to death. But only polars and grizzliess. None of them black bear types...

I stand chastised . . .

Originally Posted by Norton

Interesting piece of marketing.

Sales through fear . . . I wonder if it is advertised at FOX?

Originally Posted by Norton

Interesting piece of marketing. A "bear attacks of the century" booklet. Guess one can never be too careful. Shit happens.

I'll say one thing for it, though- if you have to shoot a bear with a handgun, most calibers are just gonna piss it off- at least with .50 he'll know he got hit by something.

I can't imagine how that thing must kick with that tiny barrel (and the flames must be impressive)- I shot a .50 Desert Eagle once (in between clearing jams- what a piece of crap)- it made quite an impressive bang.

Originally Posted by FailSafe

I shot a .50 Desert Eagle once (in between clearing jams

Traffic warden is a dangerous job in your neighbourhood?

Originally Posted by Norton

Shit happens.

in the woods ?

though topical to this is the following piece of politician gobblygook - the idea that because of the global financial crisis we require more paper pushers just makes me snigger

Ms Gillard was speaking after the launch of Australian Workforce Futures: A National Workforce Development Strategy. It is a report by Skills Australia, an independent statutory body providing advice to the education minister on the skills needed for Australia's workforce and how to develop them.


In a speech at the launch, she said the global financial crisis had reduced the need for technicians and trade workers, and created demand for more professional jobs.
"Essentially, there is a long-term trend of growth in demand for higher skills, and a reduction in the share of low and unskilled jobs," Ms Gillard said.
In the 12 months to November 2009, Australia shed 97,000 technical and trade jobs, she said. At the same time 78,300 professional jobs had been created.
Youth unemployment was unacceptably high in regional Australia and in areas that had relied on manufacturing for generation after generation, she said.
Addressing the problem would require lifting literacy and numeracy skills, and encouraging Australians to further their education.
"The more you learn, the more you earn," Ms Gillard said.
"There is a benefit to individuals in full-time employment of approximately $100 per week for each extra year of education beyond compulsory schooling.
"A person with a bachelor degree earns about 24 per cent above average earnings.
"A person leaving school before finishing Year 11 tends to earn 20 per cent below average earnings.
"And those with post-school qualifications are also able to work around seven years longer than those without post-school qualifications."

Originally Posted by panama hat

Originally Posted by FailSafe

I shot a .50 Desert Eagle once (in between clearing jams

Traffic warden is a dangerous job in your neighbourhood?

Not in my hometown, but in the Florida Everglades, actually- not much traffic, but loads of brass jammed in the damned chamber- Desert Eagle has a pretty bad rep for quality.

People in Florida are armed to the teeth- everybody I know there doesn't just own a gun- they all have 'collections'.

anywho.. back on topic, most of those i went to school with went on to uni..not me i was too smart for more learning, at that age i new everything, but i did learn, alot, about how bloody stupid i was back then, these days i have a few bits of paper hanging on the wall, to prove to the bastards that i am not just a dumb ferk who dropped out and did nothing with his life, i go back to my home town and well most of them that went to uni, are still there pretty well doing much of the same only a few really did something with there education,
my life education taught me all about hard work and the need to eat..and as i sit here with what i have achieved..no regrets err cept i did,nt get to screw as many uni chicks and smoke as much pot

Originally Posted by nedwalk

these days i have a few bits of paper hanging on the wall

VB posters don't count Nedster.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

However, having said that, I've met many highly qualified, published Psychiatrists/Psychologists/Psychotherapists who were as dumb as dirt and shouldn't have been allowed anywhere near other people.

There's no argument that a degree isn't an indicator of intelligence or proficiency.

In the end, if you've got the means and the time (fortunately for me my dad was able to foot the bill, even though I still occasionally hear about it 20 years later...) furthering your education certainly won't hurt you in any career you might choose.

Originally Posted by JoeMoer

The thick blokes in my final year class made the bucks. The idiots that studied live ok, but not at the top of the pile.

Obviously, English composition not having been one of your strong points.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

VB posters don't count Nedster

ferkinkiwi bastard...got me, i wuz trying to be clever n stuff, anyway they ain,t just VB! some have tits on em and days an months an stuff

Originally Posted by Bobcock

I don't have time to read the whole thread.....but....

Is going to a university a complete waste of time and money?

I guess it can't be, I've ended up with an expat job in the oil and gas industry in Thailand and a salary that I am comfortable with.....

....but then again, I didn't go to university......

works for some, doesn't work for others.

Exactly the same for me, but how many 20 or 30 something people you see starting out in our business without a degree these days?
I don't see any. I don't think you can get a foot in the door now without a degree.
TH

I was in California back in '94 listening to a radio programme about Mexicans coming over the border and taking American jobs.
This one quote by the radio host always stuck in my mind, ---
"We dont need all those Mexicans coming here and taking all the menial, low paid jobs. Hell, -- we got our own university educated citizens to do that!"

The point being that there are so many people out there with degrees these days that they dont have the same value as they once did.
I have met a lot of educated idiots in my time. Though their failings have not necessarily been due to their education, but rather to negative personality traits. Just that they got into positions where they could do more damage through their education. It didnt make them any smarter, it just made them more dangerous.

At the end of the day human happiness and contentment can not be gauged by income levels or education alone. Once a person has enough money to maintain financial security and establish their lives in a comfortable fashion, more money doesn't necessarily make life more enjoyable. I see success and happiness as a hill with a plateau at the top. Once you have reached your level of financial security to make you comfortable, its pointless to push yourself to go further.

I have some friends who are quite wealthy. One particular very good friend is a millionaire a couple or few times over. If I had to give him a happiness rating out of ten, I would say he lags at least couple of points behind me. The thing with him is that he is driven to be an achiever and can never be happy with what he has got.

If higher education can help you get to where you want to be then thats a good thing. But if it becomes part of that cycle of endlessly yearning for more then it becomes part of the problem.