Thread: Thailand VS UK - Where is better to live- consider yob culture Antisocial behaviour

A binge drinker aged just 14 has been given an Asbo banning her from drinking alcohol in public.
Schoolgirl Catherine Emery has been arrested more than 20 times for drunken behaviour, which saw her drink up to 12 cans of lager a night.
Catherine was the leader of a girl gang who met in supermarket car parks to drink Carling or Stella Artois beer most nights.


Since being given the Asbo, Catherine Emery, 14, has vowed to cut down on her drinking but added 'it's going to be really hard'


In one week she drank 143 units or 80 drinks - 10 times the recommended limit for an adult female.

• Kick out at police who had tried to remove her from public toilets after complaints from locals,
• Assault a 15-year-old girl for no reason, pulling her hair and punching her in the face as she walked by,
• Shout and swear at passing residents,
• Enter a police van and start shouting at police officers, when she was told to stop she lashed out and injured an officer,
• Lash out a man who had told her to behave.

Magistrates in Leeds gave her a two-year Asbo which bans her from possessing or drinking alcohol in public, purchasing or attempting to purchase alcohol or asking others to purchase alcohol on her behalf.



'Catherine finds in hard to discuss how she is feeling. She keeps it all bottled up. She's frustrated with everything that's gone on and what's in her head, that's why she lashes out.'
Wetherby PC Steve Atkinson said: 'We have been working together with other agencies for about six months to try and deal with Catherine's behaviour.
'We tried very hard to engage with her, but we've had to go down the Asbo route as a last resort and we will continue to seek orders on these youths who are out of control.'

Girls like this are ten a penny. Violent, aggresive, unable to grasp the concept of right and wrong or the idea that her actions have a negative effect on others or doesn't care, the family unit is essentially non-existant, the remains of a community are ignored and the legal system and the police seem primarily concerned with the girls feelings and health rather than the people who get randomly beaten and spat on. Finally her drug habit which costs more than a working man's daily wage is paid for by the tax payer ....Paying for people to abuse, assult and terify you is maddness sadism ...

Thailand is the most dangerous country in SE Asia at the moment, it just doesn't know it yet, but the shit is very close to the fan. There's a lot of shit, hundreds of kilos in fact, and the fan could propel a hovercraft the size of Madagascar. It's a time bomb, and there's a subtle exodus happening - consider that.

Originally Posted by The Gentleman Scamp

Thailand is the most dangerous country in SE Asia at the moment, it just doesn't know it yet, but the shit is very close to the fan. There's a lot of shit, hundreds of kilos in fact, and the fan could propel a hovercraft the size of Madagascar. It's a time bomb, and there's a subtle exodus happening - consider that.

Talk of civil war is standard Bangkokian gossip. Not six months go by without talk of a Junta or somesuch taking power. Let's stick with Thailand as is eh?

neither are better than each other, they are totally different, comparisons are pointless

each country has its strong points and weaknesses

it is up to the individual to choose which he prefers, it is all very judgemental

I find i like England less and less each time i visit. Not just the yob culture, but the breakdown of family and community, which is at the heart of the yob culture.

Perhaps the time has come for pregnancy to be licenced?

Originally Posted by DrAndy

neither are better than each other, they are totally different, comparisons are pointless

each country has its strong points and weaknesses

it is up to the individual to choose which he prefers, it is all very judgemental

Comparing one single aspect of a society with another’s is legitimate. The manifestation of the issue “anti-social behaviour”the form it takes, its prevalence, effect on the general population and antecedents and prognosis can be compared and one countries situation be declared better.

Originally Posted by chassamui

IPerhaps the time has come for pregnancy to be licenced?

It is sad to note but most of my friends who I knew through weekend boozing and drugging almost all have kids now (I'm 28), my friends from college/6th form are about 50/50 and my friends from university are almost all childless.


Perhaps eugenics should be reconsidered.

The argument over which country is best to live in has been raging for years.

Brazil...

Originally Posted by DrAndy

neither are better than each other, they are totally different, comparisons are pointless

each country has its strong points and weaknesses

it is up to the individual to choose which he prefers, it is all very judgemental

Of course. The deepest most competitive ideals as they apply towards comparatives is always moot, and might tell you something about folks that use them subliminally and as standards.

I'm surprised you don't see them for what they are down in that nest of vipers that is Samui Chas. You must be really thick skinned and/or not speak any Thai whatsoever. A day was enough for me down there last time I went (about 5 years ago if I recall). The Samuian Thais are the worst I have encountered in 25 years without a shadow of a doubt.

Compare living in the UK with Thailand? They are still queueing up to get into the UK, so what does that tell you? A few waifs and strays such as my good self prefer life in Asia but we are not many and if you don't have money life in Thailand is difficult, if not impossible for most. There ain't no safety net here. Nor can most of us consider ourselves even permanent residents, we are merely visitors, albeit long-term. Things like the health services, education, basic human rights, road safety, job opportunities all point in favour of the UK.

For anyone seriously considering this topic, there can only be one winner: the UK.

If you have a salary of 200K sterling pa London can be great

If you have a salary of 20K sterling pa BKK is great

Originally Posted by Beadle

I'm surprised you don't see them for what they are down in that nest of vipers that is Samui Chas. You must be really thick skinned and/or not speak any Thai whatsoever. A day was enough for me down there last time I went (about 5 years ago if I recall). The Samuian Thais are the worst I have encountered in 25 years without a shadow of a doubt.

Compare living in the UK with Thailand? They are still queueing up to get into the UK, so what does that tell you? A few waifs and strays such as my good self prefer life in Asia but we are not many and if you don't have money life in Thailand is difficult, if not impossible for most. There ain't no safety net here. Nor can most of us consider ourselves even permanent residents, we are merely visitors, albeit long-term. Things like the health services, education, basic human rights, road safety, job opportunities all point in favour of the UK.

For anyone seriously considering this topic, there can only be one winner: the UK.

I am told by some of the long term expats here that Samui has changed for the worse in the last 5 years, with overdevelopment and tourism being the main culprits. i steer clear of the main tourist areas and have sufficient Thai to make myself understood, so i can avoid the worst excesses of the island, especially at this time of year.
there are actually very few true samuians in the expat/tourist communities. The majority of Thais in the service industry here are migrants, much like other tourist destinations.
I still enjoy life here. The sense of Thai culture may be hidden, but it is worth the effort to uncover it.
Rather the inequities of Thai life than the ccctv nanny state in UK. At least here i have choices.
The freeloaders queueing up tp get in to UK are one of the reasons the natives are so restless.

Originally Posted by mad_dog

It is sad to note but most of my friends who I knew through weekend boozing and drugging almost all have kids now (I'm 28), my friends from college/6th form are about 50/50 and my friends from university are almost all childless.

This reminds me of the movie "Idiocracy", depicting a future of human devolution, due to the fact that yobs are breeding like rabbits, while the educated are not. Reccomended viewing, funny shit.

Originally Posted by mad_dog

The argument over which country is best to live in has been raging for years. A novel way to have this argument again ( and again 7 years for some) is to make your case using news clippings, government reports etc on yob culture in Thailand and the U.K.







Advocates for the UK who feel they have less English language material to draw upon could ask their partner to translate or Smeg may also be willing to translate texts for you.

I lived in the Uk for most of my life, every single town I lived in was inhabitted by SHIT in some area or another.

Where I was born and raised, wasn't bad, it was quite OK, when I moved to my first flat, after working in Germany for a few years, it was like HELL...Benwell, West End of Newcastle, what a terrible place full of terrible people.

I then moved to Highfield, into a semi, again another place from hell!

We moved again to near where I worked, PELAW, and bought our first home there.

The house was fine, provided you didn't go outside, I had the car nicked how many times, when I bought a crook lock the fuckers stole the hubcaps and battery...

Then I moved to Wales, I liked Wales, they were decent people!

Unfortunately, I had to move out and move with the job, I ended up in Marlborough...in the poorer area...again nothing but scum and thieves!

In the years I have been in Thailand, I have never ever felt that I couldn't leave my home, in fact sometimes it seems safer on the streets than in the house.

I see virtually no thieving, (from my place) and these people are a damn site poorer thasn in the UK.

We have no graffiti, no social problems like the UK, I know where I would rather be!

Kids, teenagers etc. behave like SHIT back in the UK, there is no law, no consequence...

I know the Thais sometimes erupt and behave like nutters, but usually something lit the fuse, in the UK the kids are already burning the fuse, looking for an excuse.

I'm amazed by some of the stuff I see around town that hasn't been vandalized, particularly religious shit.

Originally Posted by good2bhappy

If you have a salary of 200K sterling pa London can be great

Agreed. If you've got enough beans to insulate yourself from reality then almost anywhere is o.k. to live ........................... almost.

Britain wasn't too bad until that fateful day in 1997 when the socialists reinvented themselves and persuaded the electorate to vote them into power.

Since then we have all reaped the bitter harvest of their wretched agenda which was simply to free the lower end from their chains of stupidity,illiteracy and lumpen behaviour by endowing them with unlimited credit and social benefits and the idiotic notion that they were the same as everybody else. Thus propelled into society the infection of their irresponsibility and indolence spread throughout the land unfettered by the poverty which had previously confined them to their traditional, and rightful, place in ghettoes away from their betters where they were safely contained. Pandora's box has been opened and the pestilence will be with us all for years to come.

The recession is to be welcomed and hopefully the lower order will again be consigned to the economic and social oblivion they so richly deserve.

I'd say you're losing your touch, but that would assume you weren't completley transparent in the first place....

I live in a council estate in Scotland. All the neighbours hate each other, most peoples lives consist of getting out of their heads & complaining about how everything is shit (which it invariably is) and eating shit food. CCTV is EVERYWHERE, yobs roam the streets looking for trouble and things to destroy.

But at least the weather is good

When I lived in Thailand the neighbours yapped away in the street every evening, inviting each other (myself included) to join them for some food and a drink. The kids were cheeky little rascals but not in the malicious sense that they are here. I could walk about without fear of a random attack (except for the odd rabid soi dog) and the pace of life chilled me right out. Oh and I could also afford to eat out in a restaurant every night instead of once a fortnight.

But again it depends on how much money you have to a certain degree...