Booze or Dope

**machangezi** · 24-02-2006, 10:03 PM

Frankie mate any withdrawl symptoms when you decided to stop?

**friscofrankie** · 24-02-2006, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by lom

I think it's overrated, so far I have not got any of the flashbacks they promised me as young

When I start talkin about he good ol days of acid and trippin' I get mild ones, they're fuckin' cool, feels just like that loose, comin' down part.
Always loved that part, you take another hit about that time; the peak is short and sweet. Then you've got this mellow, trippy attitude; ain't worth a fuck to nobody but you feel pretty good about it.

**machangezi** · 24-02-2006, 10:07 PM

Not a control freak mate. Having read about it and personal experience is enough for me to say it ain't good. Well not good for me at least. Being a person who take things to the extreme is enough a reason for me not to do it.

**ChiangMai noon** · 24-02-2006, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by macha

Frankie mate any withdrawl symptoms when you decided to stop?

Bloody hell macha, you talk about a couple of joints like 10 years of shooting up skank without any food inside you.
Now I've tried just about everything there is to try, enjoyed some (e's, coke, speed) and not others (funny enough don't like smoking).
But addicted.
Not at all.

**machangezi** · 24-02-2006, 10:15 PM

Good for a laugh if done once in a blue moon. Regular use of it will lead to the dead end IMO.

**friscofrankie** · 24-02-2006, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by Macha

Frankie mate any withdrawl symptoms when you decided to stop?

Cocaine:
We all show withdrawal symptoms for shit every day man.
The symptoms were less than any ending to a love affair.
They were less than from cigarettes
When I first learned there was no Santa Clause was tougher on my Psyche
Other than nasal passages that felt like there was steel pin shoved through, that lasted about 6 months, I slept alot more than usual and was less excitable.
Weed:
When I (dope, weed, pot, hashish) was smoking every day all day.
If I was out for a day or two it was harder to get to sleep for that day or two, I was more likely to get angry quicker. Again, much less than if I had used an over-the-counter sleepin aids. This was an indicator to me that maybe being high every fuckin' day wasn't so goddam cool.
Withdrawal is 100% emotional We've all had to endure physical discomfort before. Some folks have withdrawal syptoms with types of food, daily conditons of the job. How many dumb fucks wake up 62 one day and got no fuckin' idea how to live? Take away somebody's favorite Soap opera and watch the witrhdrawals.
The hoorah about "addictive," "habit-forming," and "withdrawal" are so fuckin over blown by media and governement propaganda machines as to have taken on an abhorrible connotation. It's all fuckin bullshit. Thing is, folks believe that shit and then allow themselves to be drug(ged?) down into an atypical "text-book" situation, because from birth they have been innundated that this is the norm, and in someways, acceptable behavior for one so "afflicted."
Pure D fuckin' hogwash!

**ChiangMai noon** · 24-02-2006, 10:27 PM

Top drawer Frankie.

**machangezi** · 24-02-2006, 10:32 PM

IME blow generally produces a feeling of well being, although anxiety can increase if the user is uneasy, and concentration, intellectual and manual skills can be impaired. I agree to an extent that it doesn't cause permanent physical damage in moderate use, although a psychological addiction may develop with prolonged use.

Am I right Frankie mate? I might be wrong and have been proven wrong many times.

**friscofrankie** · 24-02-2006, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by Macha

IME blow generally produces a feeling of well being, although anxiety can increase if the user is uneasy, and concentration, intellectual and manual skills can be impaired. I agree to an extent that it doesn't cause permanent physical damage in moderate use, although a psychological addiction may develop with prolonged use.

Am I right Frankie mate?

You gotta be so fuckin wrong I think you're just eggin' me on. Ok sme of it's right. Cocke makes you feel good man. and you cna just snort and snort and snort as that rush wears down. Eventually that rush gets so short you cna end up pretty tweaked! I've doen some seriously carzy shit after being up for a few days. most of it is lack of sleep. but Coke makes you nervous and more esily stressed after continued use.
As far as intellectual supression? as with any THING it's really up to the individual. Some of the worlds greatest thought were recoded while the author was coked. some of the most wonderful art the same way.
Stress or even miserable depression has been a factor in many great thinkers and artisit, course most guys like that ended up dead in the gutter, butman they lived lives we still fuckin' talk about centuries later.
Physically Coke is a killer, man we used to laugh about the size of the cookies we'd dig out of our sinuses. disc 10 - 12 mm diam. just another layer of tissue, complete with tiny viens but turned into scab. Fuckin heart racin' like a runner's the end of the boston marathon. Coke leeches the vitamins out of your body. Coke, after several day of no or maybe 1 hour sleep a night, can make you much more dangerous than speed/yaba freak. percieved effects are not as strong so teh coke head will often do more, and more and more, a fews line every 10 - 15 minutes for days... We're talkin 200 mm line 'bout 4mm thick. i coudl feel the extra pressure in my head...
Coke ainl;t one fuckin thing good about 'cept maybe that first 15 - 20 minutes.
psychological addiction
This is where you are wrong and by believing this fuckin' crap you are one more fooll propagating the myth enable the folks callin' themselves 'addicts' to not take responsibility
psychological addiction Really means: Somethin' you don't wanna stop doin'

**Marmite the Dog** · 25-02-2006, 01:49 AM

Originally Posted by Macha

IME blow generally produces a feeling of well being,

No - it just makes me want to sleep - NOW!!

Its one of those pointless drugs that people smoke because they think its cool. all that happens in reality is that the 'smokers' end up going home early and missing a good evening. Sad really.

**friscofrankie** · 25-02-2006, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by Macha

IME blow generally produces a feeling of well being,

No - it just makes me want to sleep - NOW!!

Its one of those pointless drugs that people smoke because they think its cool. all that happens in reality is that the 'smokers' end up going home early and missing a good evening. Sad really.

Was he using "blow" for weed? Or coke??
Shit! I responsed to a "cocaine" question.

**Marmite the Dog** · 25-02-2006, 11:26 AM

Blow is marijuana, isn't it?

**Goddess of Whatever** · 25-02-2006, 11:35 AM

I think "blow" is equipment to use for smoking weed.

isn't it?

**Marmite the Dog** · 25-02-2006, 11:38 AM

No. That's Rizzlas & a roach.

**Goddess of Whatever** · 25-02-2006, 11:40 AM

Then "blow" should be err.. how to smoke weed.

I guess.

**friscofrankie** · 25-02-2006, 11:44 AM

Depends on where you're from i think. In the States, "blow" is coke. weed is, uh weed, pot, smoke, grass (kinda old school), tea (very old school), ganja, killer green bud or KGB for short, But it's been weed forever and this seems to be the top euphemism for the herb, oh, yeah some real hippy-ish types'll call it "herb"
I've only used "Coke" or "Blow" when refering to cocaine deadly shit. kinda like that first few minutes you get when folks ae chattin' away and then a joint of real good weed is passed around the conversation drops off, take abut 5 - 10 minutes for things to get antimated again. of course when there's a buncha pot heads the drivel just gets weirder. It's not the pot most pot head ae really just stupid to begin with, weed gives 'em an excuse.

**friscofrankie** · 25-02-2006, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Goddess of Whatever

Then "blow" should be err.. how to smoke weed.

I guess.

blow is ust a term dearie, you're supposed to suck!

**Marmite the Dog** · 25-02-2006, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by friscofrankie

But it's been weed forever and this seems to be the top euphemism for the herb

My homeys always called it 'blow'.

Originally Posted by Goddess of Whatever

Then "blow" should be err.. how to smoke weed. I guess.

Give it a rest Mate.

**colourful-era** · 25-02-2006, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Its one of those pointless drugs that people smoke because they think its cool. all that happens in reality is that the 'smokers' end up going home early and missing a good evening. Sad really.

just coz it spins you out and makes you paranoid!

A bit of the old ganja's great - nothing to do with being cool - although of course it's far more interesting than being a drunk.

I like a smoke - it controls my drinking in a way - nothing to smoke and I drink twice the amount and wake up feeling shit the next day. So in a way, it's a kind of medicine for me.

**mad_dog** · 25-02-2006, 12:58 PM

Reading this is giving me the urge ... I don't like watching films about drugs either TEMPTATION MAN

**colourful-era** · 25-02-2006, 01:01 PM

give in to the temptation - get drugged up and enjoy!

**aging one** · 25-02-2006, 01:10 PM

Blow would be coke in American slang. Dont miss it at all. But the weed, the herb, the ganja, still partake "once in a while".

**Goddess of Whatever** · 25-02-2006, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Quote: Originally Posted by Goddess of Whatever Then "blow" should be err.. how to smoke weed. I guess. Give it a rest Mate.

ok ok ok.... grrrrrrr...

**mad_dog** · 25-02-2006, 01:35 PM

I rarely take drugs in Thailand ...once a month or something... To many pigs... Expensive.. shit gear... paranoia... gossipy people... often get that everyone is look at me feeling becuase I am a foreigner and everyone IS looking at me.

**aging one** · 25-02-2006, 02:13 PM

I like to sit out on my balcony and blow one most nights about 5pm. Its so damn much safer in the burbs.

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