Thread: The Return of hooliganism

Originally Posted by alwarner

Nuneaton is in The Midands so that would fit. Birmingham, Walsall, Coventry, Villa etc... are all there or there abouts. Loads of others too.

Birmingham have a bit of a handy firm

Originally Posted by beerlaodrinker

Still a few of the chelsea headhunters getting around in the philippines and thailand, The dogs bollocks bar in pattaya used to have a lot of them as well,
one of them wrote a book about his hooliganism experiences

true BLD. The guy that runs the Dogs Bollox is a headhunter

One of the Southend arrests was for violence. I have a rare picture of the hooligan resisting arrest.

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Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Originally Posted by Iceman123

Rupert this thread may have raised a modicum of interest if you had thought about context - compare it with last year, foreign teams - anything the choice is yours -

The decline of Millwall?

Police just don't go to Millwall...

^QPR and Luton had some battles going on in the 80's

During the 1970s, organised hooligan firms started to emerge with clubs such as Arsenal (Gooners, The Herd), Aston Villa (Steamers, C-Crew, Villa Hardcore, Villa Youth), Birmingham City(Zulus, Zulu’s Warriors, Zulu’s Army, The Zulu), Derby County (Derby Lunatic Fringe), Chelsea (Headhunters), Everton (County Road Cutters), Liverpool (The Urchins), Leeds United (Leeds Service Crew), Middlesbrough (Middlesbrough Frontline), Newcastle United (Gremlins, Newcastle Mainline Express NME), Nottingham Forest (Forest Executive Crew), Manchester United (Red Army),Portsmouth (6.57 Crew), Sheffield United (Blades Business Crew), Shrewsbury Town (E.B.F – English Border Front), Tottenham Hotspur (Yid Army), Wolverhampton Wanderers (Subway Army) and most famously West Ham United’s (Inter City Firm). Lower league clubs also had firms, such as Blackpool’s (Rammy Arms Crew), Coventry City (The Legion), Millwall (Bushwackers) (F-Troop) (Treatment), Stoke City (Naughty Forty) sunderland AFC (Seaburn Casuals), Plymouth Argyle (TCE The Central Element), Burnley fc (suicide squad) Walsall (Junction 9), Grimsby Town (GHS).

Two main events in 1973 led to introduction of crowd segregation and fencing at football grounds in England. Manchester United were relegated to the Second Division, the Red Army caused mayhem at grounds up and down the country, and a Bolton Wanderers fan stabbed a young Blackpool fan to death behind the Kop at Bloomfield Road during a Second Division match.

A full-scale riot broke out at The Den in March 1978 during an FA Cup quarter-final between Millwall and Ipswich. Fighting began on the terraces, then spilled out on to the pitch and into the narrow streets around the ground. Bottles, knives, iron bars, boots and concrete slabs rained from the sky. Dozens of innocent people were injured. In March 1985, hooligans who had attached themselves to Millwall were involved in large-scale rioting at Luton when Millwall played Luton Town in the quarter final of the FA Cup. Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher’s immediate response was to set up a “War Cabinet” to combat football hooliganism.

Between May 1985 and 1990 English clubs were banned from all European competitions, with liverpool being banned for a further year. This was because of the Heysel Stadium Disaster where 39 Juventus fans were crushed to death when liverpool fans broke through a line of police officers and ran toward the Juventus supporters in a section of the ground containing both English and Italian fans. When a fence separating them from the Juventus fans was broken through, the English supporters attacked the Italian fans, the majority of whom were families rather than ultras who were situated in the other end of the ground. Many Italians tried to escape the fighting, and a wall collapsed on them.

In January 1988 41 people were arrested when the Arsenal Herd and Millwall Bushwhackers clashed and rioted at Highbury.

After some 20 years of relatively good behaviour among English football fans in general, extreme scenes of rioting and hooliganism made a comeback at Upton Park on 25 August 2009, during a Football League Cup second round tie between London rivals West Ham United ICF and Millwall Bushwhackers. The pitch was invaded several times during the game and rioting in the streets came afterwards, with one incident resulting in a man suffering stab wounds.

There were minor disturbances during and after England’s 4-1 defeat to Germany during the 2010 FIFA World Cup. A German flag was burned down amongst a mob of English supporters in Leicester Square in England, as well as damage to a Haagen Daz restaurant within the vicinity. One German fan amongst the crowd was confronted by the mob, but there were no injuries.

less than 24 hours before England’s bid to host the 2018 World Cup failed, rival west-midlands fans from Aston Villa and Birmingham City clashed in december 2010 . 14 people were injured as Missiles were hurled onto the pitch, a rocket flare was released in the stands, and there were also scuffles in nearby streets. By this stage, football hooliganism was rising dramatically, with 103 incidents of hooliganism involving under 19′s in the 2009-10 season compared to 38 the season before. Cass Pennant, a former football hooligan, said that the rise in football hooliganism was the result of rising unemployment, poverty, and social discontent in the aftermath of the recent recession - a similar situation which had affected Britain for much of the 1970s and 1980s when hooliganism was at its peak.

In a match between Sheffield Wednesday and Leeds United on 19 October 2012, a fan of Leeds United attacked Sheffield Wednesday goalkeeper Chris Kirkland during a pitch invasion to celebrate a goal. The hooligan had been identified on social media sites as someone who had previously been banned from every football ground in the UK. Sheffield Wednesday manager Dave Jones said that Leeds fans were “vile animals” and called for them to be excluded from away matches in future.

Shortly after this incident a 44-yr old Leeds fan was attacked on a night out with is wife in sheffield by 3 Wednesday fans and left in a critical condition and currently in a coma. Tensions are running high for when Wednesday return to Elland road in April with the fixture already been made a 12:30 KO. Some leeds fans have said, “It will definitely be very tasty when the sheffield scum come to town”.

FRANCE

Football hooliganism in France is often rooted in social conflict, including racial tension. In the 1990s, fans of Paris Saint-Germain (PSG) fought with supporters from Belgium, England, Germany, Italy and Scotland.[22] There is a long standing north/south rivalry between PSG (representing Paris and by extension northern France) and Olympique de Marseille (representing the South of France) which has encouraged authorities to be extremely mobilised during games between the two teams. Violent fights and post-game riots including car burning, and shop windows smashing have been a regular fixture of PSG-OM games. In 2000, the bitter rivalry turned particularly violent.[23]

On 24 May 2001, fifty people were injured when fighting broke out at a match between PSG and Turkish club Galatasaray at the Parc des Princes stadium.[24][25] PSG were initially given a record $571,000 fine, but it was reduced on appeal to $114,000. Galatasaray was initially fined $114,000 by UEFA, but it too was eventually reduced to $28,500.[26] In May 2001, six PSG fans from the Supporters Club, were arrested and charged with assault, carrying weapons, throwing items on the pitch and racism. The six were alleged to have deliberately entered a part of the Parc des Princes stadium where French fans of Turkish origin were standing, in order to attack them. The six were banned from all football stadiums for the duration of their trial.[26][27][28]

On 24 November 2006 a PSG fan was shot and killed by police and another seriously injured during fighting between PSG fans and the police. The violence occurred after PSG lost 4-2 to Israeli club Hapoel Tel Aviv at the Parc des Prince in a UEFA Cup match. PSG fans chased a fan of Hapoel Tel Aviv, shouting racist and anti-semitic slogans. A plainclothes police officer who tried to protect the Hapoel fan was attacked, and in the chaos, one fan was shot dead and another seriously injured. In response, the French Interior Minister, Nicolas Sarkozy held a meeting with the president of the French Football League, Frederic Thiriez to discuss racism and violence in football. The director-general of the French police, Michel Gaudin, insisted that measures against football hooliganism had reduced racist incidents to six that season from nineteen in the previous season. Gaudin also stated that 300 known hooligans could be banned from matches.[29] The fan who was shot, was linked with the Boulogne Boys, a group of fans who modelled themselves on British hooligans in the 1980s. The group's name comes from the Kop of Boulogne (KOB), one of the two main home fan stand at the Parc des Princes.

The KOB themselves held a silent memorial march attended by 300 and accused the police office of murdering the fan. They cited bias in the French press who had only given a "one-sided" account of the incident.[29] French President Jacques Chirac condemned violence that led up to the shooting, stating that he was horrified by the reports of racism and anti-Semitism. French Prime Minister, Dominique de Villepin called for new, tougher measures to deal with football hooligans. Prosecutors opened an inquiry into the incident, to determine whether the officer involved should face criminal charges.[30][31]

Before a home match against Sochaux on 4 January 2006, two Arab youths were punched and kicked by white fans outside the entrance to the KOB. During the match racist insults were aimed at black players and a PSG player of Indian origin, Vikash Dhorasoo was told to "go sell peanuts in the metro".[22][citation needed] In the recent years, following UK's example, France's legislation has changed, including more and more banning of violent fans from stadiums. The threat of dissolution of fan groups has also tempered the outward rivalry and violence of a number of fans. Known violent fans under ban sentences are to report to the nearest Police station on nights of game, to prove they are not anywhere in proximity to the stadium.

Germany[edit]





German football hooligans with masked faces in a 1990s match.
Some football hooliganism in Germany has been linked to neo-Nazism and far right groups.[32] In June 1998, after a FIFA World Cup match in France between Germany and Yugoslavia a French policeman was beaten to the point of brain damage by German fans. Following the incident, German police contacted many of the known 2,000+ German hooligans to warn them they would be arrested if they travelled to upcoming matches in France.[33] A German fan was arrested in 1998 and charged with attempted murder[34][35] and in 1999, four more Germans were convicted in the attack[36][37] In 2001, Markus Warnecke, the German fan who was accused of leading the attack, was found guilty and jailed for five years and banned from France for ten years, and from all sports facilities for five years.[38]





German police prepare for hooliganism by wearing riot gear and using police dogs.
In March 2005, German football fans fought with police and rival fans at a friendly match between Germany and Slovenia in Celje, Slovenia, damaging cars and shops, and shouting racist slogans. The German Football Association (DFB) apologised for the behaviour. As a result, 52 people were arrested; 40 Germans and 12 Slovenians.[39][40] Following a 2-0 defeat to Slovakia in Bratislava, Slovakia, German hooligans fought with the local police, and six people were injured and two were taken into custody. The DFB again apologised for fans who chanted racist slogans.[41]

In June 2006, Germany beat Poland in a World Cup Finals match in Dortmund, which led to violent clashes. The police detained over 300 people in Dortmund and German fans threw chairs, bottles and fireworks at the police. Of the 300 arrested, 120 were known hooligans.[42] In October 2006, a task force was established to deal with violence and racism in German football stadiums.[43] The worst incident took place at a Third division (North) match between the Hertha BSC Berlin B-team and Dynamo Dresden, in which 23 policemen were injured.[44][45] In February 2007 in Saxony, all German lower league matches, from the fifth division downward were cancelled after about 800 fans attacked 300 police officers (injuring 39 of them) after a match between Lokomotive Leipzig and Erzgebirge Aue II.[46] There were minor disturbances after the Germany and England match during the 2010 FIFA World Cup. An English flag was burned down amongst a mob of German supporters in Duisburg-Hamborn in Germany.[47]

Portugal

Hooligan firms are associated with teams such as F.C. Porto, S.L. Benfica and Sporting Clube de Portugal. Clubs such as Porto and Benfica have "official" and "unofficial" firms. Porto's official firm is the Super Dragões ("dragons"). Benfica have an official firm, the Diabls Vermelhos ("red devils"), and an unofficial one, the No Name Boys. Sporting CP has three firms: Juventude Leonina (Juve Leo, "young lions") the oldest Portuguese firm founded in 1976, Directivo Ultras XXI and Torcida Verde. There is particular rivalry between S.C. Braga and Vitória Guimarães, involving especially the Vitória Guimarães firm White Angels.

In 1996, during the Portuguese Cup final between Sporting and Benfica, a Benfica fan launched a flare towards the Sporting fans, killing one man

THE FUKIN TURKS


According to the Turkish Daily News, hooligan groups are well organised, have their own "leaders", and often consist of organised street fighters. These groups have a "racon" (code of conduct), which states that the intention must be to injure rather than kill and that a stab must be made below the waist.[89] Other hooligans have fired firearms into the air to celebrate their team's victory, which has been known to accidentally kill innocent people watching the celebrations on their balconies.[90][91]

Trouble has arisen during matches between Istanbul rivals Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe.[90] However, the Turkish Football Federation has tightened security to try and contain the hooliganism. During the 2005 Turkish cup final between Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe, 8,000 police, stewards and officials were employed to prevent violence.[92] In 2006, the Turkish Football Federation introduced new measures to combat the threat of hooliganism and have made new regulations that allow the Professional Football Disciplinary Board to fine clubs up to YTL 250,000 for their fans behavior. Repeat offenders could be fined up to YTL 500,000.[93] Despite reports from the Turkish Football Federation, the Turkish police believe that football hooliganism is not a major threat and are "isolated incidents".[94]

Before Galatasaray's semi-final UEFA Cup match with Leeds United A.F.C. in 2000, two Leeds fans, Christopher Loftus and Kevin Speight, were stabbed to death in Istanbul following street fights between Turkish and British hooligans.[89] UEFA allowed the game to proceed and Galatasaray won 2-0. Leeds complained because home fans jeered while a message of condolence was read for the victims.[95] Galatasaray's players refused to wear black arm bands. The Leeds chairman at the time, Peter Ridsdale, accused Galatasaray of "showing a lack of respect".[96] He also revealed that his teams' players had received death threats before the match.[97]

Ali Ümit Demir was arrested and sentenced to 15 years imprisonment for the stabbing, but the sentence was reduced to 5 years on the basis of heavy provocation, while five others were given lesser sentences of under four months.[94] The families of those accused of attacking with knives are reported to have defended their actions and approved of their children punishing the "rude British people".[89] Galatasaray fans were banned from traveling to the return match to try and avoid further clashes between fans, although there were reports of attacks by Leeds fans on Turkish television crews and the police.[98] However the Assistant Chief Constable in charge of policing the game believed that the number of arrests was "no worse than a normal high category game".[98] Hakan Şükür was hit with projectiles from Leeds United supporters and the Galatasaray team bus was stoned after driving through an underpass. The game saw Emre Belözoğlu and Harry Kewell sent off and Galatasaray sealed their way to the final with a 2-2 score.

Violence also occurred between Arsenal fans (mainly from The Herd) and Galatasaray fans before the 2000 UEFA Cup final in Copenhagen[99] in which a Galatasaray fan, an Arsenal fan and a Dane were said to have been stabbed.[100] Galatasaray later won the match after a penalty shoot-out.

On 24 May 2001, 50 people were injured when fighting broke out at a match between French club PSG and Galatasaray at the Parc des Princes stadium.[16][17]PSG were initially given a record $571,000 fine, but it was reduced on appeal to $114,000. Galatasaray was initially fined $114,000 by UEFA, but it too was eventually reduced to $28,500.[18] In May 2001, six PSG fans from the Supporters Club, were arrested and charged with assault, carrying weapons, throwing items on the pitch and racism. The six were alleged to have deliberately entered a part of the Parc des Princes stadium where French fans of Turkish origin were standing, in order to attack them. The six were banned from all football stadiums for the duration of their trial.

On June 3, 2011, after the Belgium vs. Turkey match, several riots occurred in the city center of Ghent after a 1-1 draw.30 people were injured. Hooliganism in Turkey is also a problem in Ankara, İzmir, Eskişehir, Bursa, Samsun and Adana[citation needed]. During the 2003–2004 season, a Second League Category A, match between Karşıyaka and Göztepe on 8 February 2004, involved rival Karşıyaka and Göztepe supporters clashing and the match was subsequently stopped for 33 minutes. This was due to Karşıyaka leading 5-2 after coming back from a 2-0 deficit. After the match, Göztepe fans clashed with the police, seven police officers were wounded and fifteen Göztepe fans were arrested.[101]

Bursaspor fans clashed with policemen at a match against Samsunspor match in the Turkcell Super League in Adapazarı at the end of the 2003-04 season. The match was played in Adapazarı due to events at a previous match between Bursaspor and Çaykur Rizespor. Bursaspor were playing to avoid relegation. Bursaspor won 1–0 the but were relegated to Category A after rivals won. After the match, Bursaspor fans ripped out and threw seats at the Sakarya Atatürk Stadium[102] They also fought with craftsmen of Gölcük during their journey to Adapazarı.[103] The Bursaspor-Diyarbakırspor game in March 2010 was suspended in the 17th minute after Diyarbakırspor supporters threw objects on the field. One object struck and knocked down an assistant referee.

On 7 May 2011, Bursaspor supporters clashed with the police ahead of the team's match with rival Beşiktaş. 25 police officers and 9 fans were injured in the violence.[104] A Trabzonspor fan pointed a gun to the bus which carried the players of Fenerbahçe. During the Fenerbahçe-Galatasaray game at the end of 2011-2012 season Fenerbahçe fans clashed with the police the damage costed about 2 million dollars.Buses were stoned,Police cars set on fire and trees were set on fire by Fenerbahçe fans.This was described as a warzone.

1967 Kayseri Atatürk Stadium Disaster was the worst hooliganism event that has ever happened in Turkey it resulted in 40 deaths and 600 injured.The violence started following provocation of the Kayserispor fans in the half time, whose team went to leading by a goal scored in the first half.Supporters of the two teams threw rocks to each other.Some of the hooligans were also armed with bats and knives.The fleeing crowd caused a stampede in front of the stand exits.The events in the stadium were followed by vandalism in Kayseri and many-days lasting riots in Sivas. Hooliganism is also an issue in other sports like Basketball and Volleyball in Turkey.

On 13 May 2013, a Fenerbahce fan stabbed to death after Istanbul derby. The Fenerbahce fan was on his way back home after the match between Fenerbace and Galatasaray, when he was attacked by a group of Galatasaray fans at a bus stop, and died in hospital later.[105]

^loads on them kunts

I have never seen any violence at a Game of Rugby, in NZ or Aust (on the field).

Hic hic I belong tae glasgae......

[QUOTE="Rupert Wanger"]PSG were initially given a record $571,000 fine, but it was reduced on appeal to $114,000. Galatasaray was initially fined $114,000 by UEFA, but it too was eventually reduced to $28,500.[18] In May 2001, six PSG fans from the Supporters Club[/QUOTE

Always makes oi Larf when the authorities that be hand out these fines....reduced on appeal....Covers at least one of their player's weekly wage bill, before reduction on appeal

Only meaningful punishment that's been handed out ever was the banning of all English clubs from European footie...85-90....gave the continentals a chance at winning something for a handful of meaningless years I suppose

^ nothing to do with the scoreline at half time, could've been 1-0.0-1, whatever..it was arranged in advance

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

The police were expecting it;

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Originally Posted by Bettyboo

0-6 at half time...

Don't think that helped...

My money is on the horse:

Originally Posted by Iceman123

Rupert this thread may have raised a modicum of interest if you had thought about context - compare it with last year, foreign teams - anything the choice is yours - however without it I have to agree with the good doctor.

Oh look! thegents is back

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No Neo - thegent is way too nice ( and verbose ) I am just one cheeky badass.

nice to make your acquaintance

Originally Posted by Rupert Wanger

n 2007 Dutch side Feyenoord caused havoc in the French city of Nancy following a UEFA Cup match. However, it's the team's bizarre rivalry with Ajax that makes them stand out in the Netherlands. For some reason, whenever the Rotterdam-based club play Ajax there's always antisemitic undertones. There's nothing particularly Jewish about Ajax as a club, but that doesn't stop the fans from Rotterdam shouting "Hamas Hamas, Jews to the gas!" during the game. Rioting and fights are also commonplace at this fixture and in 2009 both teams banned away fans from attending. Not that Feyenoord reverse their animosity for Ajax. In 2011, English minnows Barnsley and Hull City both had to cancel exhibition games with the Dutch team after police advised it was best to avoid the hooligans.

Feyenoord, bad news them - Everton played them in '95 CWC and when their fans plane landed at Speke they had set the thing on fire, they got to Goodison around the pubs and wanted to fight anyone.
I went to this and the away leg in Rotterdam and saw a FEMALE Feyenoord fan put the nut big time on a fellow 'FNYD' supporter for standing on her feet in the queue.
Regi Blinker - you cnut. - ah memories.