Thread: 1st time over a decade I have gone 24 hours without a cigarette

Keep up the good work! Clean lungs! White teeth! No yellow stains in your fingernails, No more looking for a place to put the nasty butts! Spending your saved pennies on good wine instead!

I quit eleven years ago by using Zyban. It's sold in Thailand under the name of Quomem. It's also an antidepressant which one must use for several weeks for it to work.

At first I felt out-of-sorts from the medication and continued to smoke. After a couple of weeks, the compulsion to light up went away. Over the next several weeks when I went out with my smoking and drinking friends, it felt strange not to be smoking. I would hold an unlit cigarette in my hand the entire evening. Then one day, I just forgot all about smoking.

I think Koojo has eaten a cliche book for brekkie.

Originally Posted by flashbang

I think Koojo has eaten a cliche book for brekkie.

They're all originals.
Maybe I should WRITE a cliche book.

30years i think now just had a bad flu attack and stopped for 2 weeks and didnt start again .

Congratulations!

If you've got this far without any chemical aids you're doing well.

If you need help , use lobelia, it's gentle, harmless, and non-adictive, instantly effective. ( You also don't get the munchies with it)

Good luck mate.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Jeez, you too !
I gave it up in 1978 ( age 23) and haven't looked back. Can't stand the smell nowadays. Consider the alternative....a slight case of death. Dirtydog's demise was right there in front of us all.

That's a weak argument. You might survive a smoker for several years, but they won't be pretty. I all likelyhood, those years will be filled with pain, dementia, loneliness.

Better shift to the better quality of life non-smokers enjoy as long as they are not old or ill. More energy, more agility, more at peace with the world than smokers who feel it has turned against them by banning what they desire just everywhere.

I agree mathos, filthy habit I don't know why i stuck it out for so long.

Marmers and I saw BG's final days, not a nice sight, gasping for breath with tubes stuck down his neck.

Originally Posted by ENT

Lobelia is the least harmful, non-addictive herb or drug available in aiding cessation of tobacco consumption known.

Originally Posted by ENT

If you need help , use lobelia, it's gentle, harmless, and non-adictive, instantly effective. ( You also don't get the munchies with it)

do you get commission for them ?

I stopped smoking 7 months ago after smoking 30 per day for 24 years. No gums, no tablets, no silly patches etc. Just stopped, and can't believe how easy it was.

Read and understand that Alan Carr book and you will never smoke again, unless you are just really stupid. It doesn't have to be hard to stop smoking.

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

Originally Posted by ENT

Lobelia is the least harmful, non-addictive herb or drug available in aiding cessation of tobacco consumption known.

Originally Posted by ENT

If you need help , use lobelia, it's gentle, harmless, and non-adictive, instantly effective. ( You also don't get the munchies with it)

do you get commission for them ?

Silly question. Of course not.

Lobeline, the active igredient in lobelia has been banned in OTC sales in USA by the FDA after drug companies claimed that it was a poison and non-effective in tobacco cessation medication.

This was a poorly disguised attempt to limit public access to an easily procurable medicine available in the plant form, lobelia.

Lobeline has been used for hundreds of years as a folk medicine to relieve symptoms of or cure asthma, bronchitis, pulmomary oedema and congestion, syphilis and as a tobacco substitute.

Further studies have shown it to be efficacious as a medication for ADD and ADHD and can be substituted for other tri-cyclic drugs commonly used in such cases.

Lobeline has also proven effective in countering MDR in cancer patients undergoing chemo therapy, allowing them a greater chance of recovering.

Highly effective in countering addiction to alcohol, amphetamines, cocaine, marijuana, opiates and tobacco, lobeline acts on the dopamine receptors which govern the body's responses to these drugs, lowering tolerance for them thus amplifying their effects.

Lobeline causes dilation of micro-tubules in the lung thus enhancing respiration by increasing lung capacity and allowing easy discharge of mucus and pollutants contained there.

Lobelinealso dilates the capillaries of the cardio-vascular system permitting an increased blood supply throughout the body, so enhancing transportation of essential nutrients and oxygen.

In this way, lobeline increases the body's capacity for self-healing, an essential ability in combating all diseases, cancer and the deleterious effects of oxidation which lead to death.

For all of the above reasons, pharmaceutical companies will do all they can to ban lobeline.

But lobelia grows everywhere.

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Originally Posted by ENT

Lobeline, the active igredient in lobelia has been banned in OTC sales in USA by the FDA after drug companies claimed that it was a poison and non-effective in tobacco cessation medication.

That may explain why it is difficult for me to find on the shelves in USA. But on the plus side, I still have not smoked since my original post.

Good on ya mate!

Don't look back, it's a lot easier as you go along.

I'm not going to interfere with your programme if it works for you, BUT, if you find Champix, the patches and the gum and electronic cigs are inn any way making you feel not so good, it's a sure sign that your tobacco tolerance has dropped........good news.

If you move away from Champix (which contains lobeline as well as varenicline tartrate), just go straight to the herb lobelia.

The species most often used and commonly seen in USA is lobelia inflata, grows up to a couple of feet high, available in herb shops or online and can be bought in the states legally in that form.
You can also buy the plant and grow it yourself at home, its's found in garden nurseries , known as puke weed or Indian tobacco in the States.



flowering head flower



full plant

The flowers may be blue, red or white, depending on sub-species.

All parts of the plant may be used, but small homeopathic doses work best and instantly.
a small piece of leaf, 2 sq cm large is all you need to nibble on at a time, not too frequently, about 4 - 5 times a day whenever the urge to smoke arrives. Remember, it's non-addictive.

You'll only need to use it for a few weeks, but don't have any nicotine with it, you'll feel bad.

I guess that's where the varenicline tartrate in Champix comes in, to balance lobeline's effect.

I've been tobacco free and have reduced alcohol consumption by 50% since starting on lobelia on 23rd December last, no hankering for anything else as substitutes and no eating in excess.

Good luck mate, you deserve a chance and owe yourself one.

Originally Posted by ENT

known as puke weed or Indian tobacco in the States.

Good info mate but do you dry it out and smoke it?

Yes you can, and thanks for the positive feedback.

You can smoke it instead of tobacco, but it doesn't have the "rush" of tobacco.

Mixed with ganja and smoked it increases the effects, so a high is really high, so you need less ganja.
Read my post # 35 and scroll down to the dude talking about his mate Swim, then go to that website linked for more info on lobelia and drugs etc.

I drink it as tea if i want a good relaxing evening, all my muscles relax, and any unconscious anxiety dissipates in a minute, very fast acting.

I gather that it allows your dopamine receptors to return to their previous level of functioning, ie, you start getting back to when natural highs were easily induced, for instance as in running or doing strenuose physical activity and so on, or even experiencing stress induced pain, where the body's natural endorphins kick in.

Go to Wikipedia and check out the cross referrencing there and go to the research papers on it. very interesting stuff. otherwise use any search engine, the more the better.

It's as if the drug companies have been holding out on us in their maniacal scrabbling for total control of the drug supplies in the world.

As I mention occasionally, it's not a war on drugs that's going on, but a war for drugs, a war for total control of all drugs.

48 Hours of being a non smoker now. One more day until the body adjusts to it and the physical addiction is at an end. I am not using nicotine replacement stuff or pills - I just stopped, and so far it is ok.

It's weird. No cravings to speak of. My mind keeps playing tricks on me though and I keep thinking "well might as well have a smoke now because well, you'll be smoking soon so why wait?" almost as if there is something to fear by not smoking.

Physical feelings it like being a little hungry. So I have a raw carrot on hand to nibble. feeling very tired though which is different from the last time I quit (lasted two years that time) - any ideas why?

Here is what I think to myself when I feel I want to smoke.
1) Smoking is more scary than not smoking. Not just the Big C, but all those times when you are running out of smokes, always having to think about / plan having them near.
2) I can last 12 hours on a plane with no cravings so therefore they are not actually that bad - don't let my head trick me.
3) Fuck being a slave to smoking. Paying for death. Fuck that shit.

Seems to help.

I gave up on January 1st.

1 month in.....

Originally Posted by slimboyfat

I gave up on January 1st.

1 month in.....

Congratulations mate, you've come this far, the hardest part's over.
Game over really, as long as you decide it is.
(Play a trick on the addiction and convince yourself you're a non smoker.)

Just gone past 40 days non-smoking and feeling great. Occasional use of lobelia leaf.
No munchies and the lobelia's also helped me keep my alcohol intake down to half of before.

Good going slimboyfat and Pseudolus! How's it going with you Submaniac....6 days now?

Oh, Pseudolus, the tiredness is possibly due to stress due to nicotine withdrawal as nicotine acts as a central nervous system depressant, relieving stress and helps overcome tiredness.
Stress is energy consuming so tiredness is a natural consequence. I took naps during that phase, now I don't need to.

That lobelia stuff looks intriguing. If I could get it I would buy it. But not on US shelves. Yes it will be 7 days tomorrow. No ciggie. Still taking Chantix, and still nicotine gum. I really wish I could find that lobelia where I am at.

And congratulations on your smoke free days, Ent! & slimboy fat!

Originally Posted by peterpan

Marmers and I saw BG's final days, not a nice sight,

Apologies, but who's BG? Blackgang?

Originally Posted by Submaniac

But on the plus side, I still have not smoked since my original post.

Congratulations from a former smoker. I smoked a pack a day for 10 years. In Canada you have small packs of 20, which are considered pointless, and large packs of 25. Sometimes I smoked more than a pack a day.

I started when I started high school and I was one of those people who enjoyed the whole ritual of it, the smell of the pack, smoking with my morning coffee, all of that.

I was 24 when I finally quit for good and TBH I don't know how I managed it. I did it by cutting down, then stopping altogether over a period oaf about two weeks. Now if I were to have a smoke or even smell it, it really bothers me.

Originally Posted by ENT

All parts of the plant may be used, but small homeopathic doses work best and instantly.

I don't think you understand "homeopathic"