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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock View Post

    You only have to look and see how high Wally's flying to see that......
    Have to admit. The way we won is Brisbane made me more emotional than any test we have won for many years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles View Post
    The way we won is Brisbane made me more emotional than any test we have won for many years.
    I can identify with that.

    Bradley Wiggins Tour de France victory was my favourite win in a while.

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    Yep number 1 from a choice of 1

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    The target for England is to avoid the follow-on and the longer that takes the better for them.

    It will mean a couple of massive knocks from the top order batsmen which unfortunately seems unlikely in the present climate.

    The aussies are certainly applying a great deal of pressure and we need a few steady heads to get us out of the mess we find ourselves in. Confidence is not high especially amongst the barmy army but i'm sure a few more alcoholic drinks will make everything look a wee bit more rosier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Lick
    The target for England is to avoid the follow-on and the longer that takes the better for them.
    Better still, put 600 on the board, get some nice batting practice, tire the Aussies out and put the Aussies under a bit of stress on day 5...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Lick View Post
    It will mean a couple of massive knocks from the top order batsmen which unfortunately seems unlikely in the present climate.
    That's what's interesting about how it's poised though isn't it.

    I wouldn't agree that there is much evidence that a couple of centuries seems 'unlikely' yet, but at the outset of this test it was clear that two out of cook, bell and pete needed to get a century.

    And now cook's gone the pressure is on bell and pete.

    Should be fascinating tomorrow - if england don't stay steady in the first session and then excel in the second then obviously they're in trouble.

    An early wicket tomorrow and the pressure will really be on, so it will be fascinating to see if two established international batsmen can survive the examination.

    The 'present climate' could look very different this time tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Lick View Post
    unlikely in the present climate.:
    Yes. The English camp are not in the correct mindset to play test cricket right now.

    Shame they don't have ample time to pull their socks up

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    I really feel there's scant evidence for that summation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles View Post
    The way we won is Brisbane made me more emotional than any test we have won for many years.
    I can identify with that.

    Bradley Wiggins Tour de France victory was my favourite win in a while.
    Arsenal winning the league at Anfield in '89.

    *sob*

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    Ipswich winning the FA Cup in 1978... Back in those days, George Clooney turned out for the England cricket team:





    The England cricket team toured Australia in the 1978-79 season to play a six-match Test series against Australia for The Ashes. England won the series 5-1, thereby retaining The Ashes.
    English cricket team in Australia in 1978

    It was a goooooooooooooood year...
    Cycling should be banned!!!

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    You really are a pathetic bitch Betty

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    I wouldn't mind a trip to chilly's fish and chip shop.

    I remember an interview when he said the pressure of ashes cricket was nothing compared to dealing with a seriously deep fryer.


    Where are they now? Chris Old | Sport | The Observer

    Chilly: You learn by your mistakes. The key to the fish is getting the batter right, making sure it's not too thick. You don't want a soggy dough, it's got to be nice and crispy. I love fish and chips, but over the last few years I've not eaten as much. When we go out for dinner now it's definitely the last thing I look at on a menu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Lick
    The target for England is to avoid the follow-on and the longer that takes the better for them.
    Better still, put 600 on the board, get some nice batting practice, tire the Aussies out and put the Aussies under a bit of stress on day 5...

    The least desirable thing that England could do is try to outbat the aussies. They need to bide their time. Play a straight bat to anything on line and hit the occasional overpitched ball. Anything flying over the stumps should be left alone.

    We desperately need a Geoffrey Boycott out there. I am hoping that Carberry will show responsibility. He hit 40 in his first innings at Brisbane and was unlucky to play onto his own stumps in the second. There are also other classy batsmen to come although nobody in particularly good form except maybe Bell

    If England only get 200 tomorrow they will have achieved their goal if they are only 2/3 wickets down. Runs are irrelevant in such situations, it's protecting wickets and winding the clock down that will save England. We live in hope, not much just a smidgen.

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    ^I mean 600 by the start of day 5...

    I agree with the rest of your comments.

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    I think if they last the day losing 2-4 wickets they will score runs.

    Once the shine has gone and the crowd buzz has calmed, Johnson won't look so good on this pitch and runs will come.

    After all Australia didn't score that fast on day one and once the bowlers tire it's an easy wicket.

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    Day 2 and they are already talking negative cricket. ..

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    No.... Day 2 and Wally was talking negative cricket....a. You however acknowledged the need to get through that period without losing wickets....

    ...... Or are you climbing aboard the silly band wagon as well?

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    Defending wickets without scoring runs is probably the hardest thing to do in cricket.
    Batsmen get tied down giving bowlers the whole over to work on them.
    Makes for dicey times at the wicket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    Defending wickets without scoring runs is probably the hardest thing to do in cricket.
    Agree.

    England are now in the position of hoping, somehow, that something will change.

    After today it seems unlikely that we'll be returning with the urn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Lick
    Runs are irrelevant in such situations
    Runs are never, ever irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock View Post
    No.... Day 2 and Wally was talking negative cricket....a. You however acknowledged the need to get through that period without losing wickets....

    ...... Or are you climbing aboard the silly band wagon as well?
    Day 3 then. Of course you needed to defend that final hour after being in field all day, but today you need to make runs, trying to block out the day would be negative cricket. You fellas need to bat two days amass a total and then attempt to bowl us out on day 5. Talking about playing for draw at the end of day 2 is defeatist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Lick
    Runs are irrelevant in such situations
    Runs are never, ever irrelevant.
    Yeah, they are. Or they are relatively speaking compared to the loss of 1 or several wickets. A batsman has to get his eye in before he can start scoring freely, the last hour of the day after having fielded all day is not the time to to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly
    Talking about playing for draw at the end of day 2 is defeatist.
    Realist.

    Unless P gets in and plays one of his best ever knocks, so we're 150 ahead by tea on day 4, we are playing for a draw...

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    Im lookinv forward to my beers mr 5-0

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    I said 5 - 0, so you may still be buying at this rate!

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