Thread: NFL 2017: draft, deals, and season

That's nice but "just win baby" is what counts.

great video.

no way the NFL would produce that today.

anyway....first play shown in the vid is of jim plunkett...does he belong in the HOF?

Not really. Never was keen on Plunket. Stabler and old George Blanda were great.

Originally Posted by raycarey

no way the NFL would produce that today.

No way indeed. With all the rules changes to protect players the entire Raiders team would be jailed.

Drew S. deserves kudos.

We'll see what happens, with Palmer and Arians both (unsurprisingly) calling it a career. It was time for both of tme. If Fitztgerald follows them out the door, that's what's gonna hurt.

Originally Posted by raycarey

anyway....first play shown in the vid is of jim plunkett...does he belong in the HOF?

Plunkett, no.

He did not have enough longevity nor a top-tier career to be in HOF.

That said, it was great seeing him lead the Raiders to the Super Bowl to win it in 1980. I remember watching it as a kid.


Wow.....37 years ago.....

Originally Posted by Norton

"just win baby" is what counts.

no doubt.

and this guy

Originally Posted by redhaze

Palmer

only won 2 playoff games in 15 seasons.

"Just win, baby" is ancient history in the Raiders organization.

I like the Raiders look. Always have.

Shame their moving to Vegas, IMO.

Originally Posted by redhaze

Speaking of which, Drew Stanton is now 7-1 in his last 8 starts. The dude is just a winner. Or as Sam calls him, "the worst backup QB in the NFL".

hes a "winner" like tim tebow was a "winner" maybe. his stats suck and hes a net 0.

66.4 QB Rating. BAHAHA

5.62 ypa BAHAHA

6 TDs and 5 INTs BAHAHA

the cards D and a weak-ass sched is why stanton won gms.

maybe his QBR (espn stat) is better....

35.7...only better than geno smith.

Originally Posted by raycarey

only won 2 playoff games in 15 seasons.

palmer is one of the most overrated QBs ever. the golden boy from usc who never materialized into squat.

so, red, now that arians and palmer are officially gone (as i told you long ago), how are things looking?

With a new QB and fresh regime things are looking great. All kinds of free agent QB's out there. We get an Alex Smith/Cousins and we're golden. Fitz staying is critical of course.

Good call on the Raiders and Garropolo by the way. Oh but somehow you told me two old men would retire. Funny must have missed that debate. Not exactly a winning streak you're on here is it? Can't ride your fluky Rams call forever. Law of averages eventually catches up.

Two old men would retire...and you believed neither lol

your cards are a bottom five franchise now red. Sooner you accept the less painful it will be. Arians has set you back five years. Maybe you can clone fitz a few times and then field a respectable wr corps that’s been decimated by clueless arians.

Let ee me know when you actually call something too btw lol. It’s been ages...if ever

Originally Posted by samsara

your cards are a bottom five franchise now red. Sooner you accept the less painful it will be.

Yeah ok they went 8-8 playing with scrubs and are losing virtually nobody in free agency. You've just got a little case of the sads and so you gotta lash out. Its just football though bro, no need to get silly with it. Its ok

Originally Posted by samsara

Let ee me know when you actually call something too btw lol. It’s been ages...if ever

I called Garapolo

So did AO and pretty much anyone else with half a brain. Meanwhile, you were on about him getting exposed. Someone certainly got exposed.

Wow, what was that post like before you edited it?

Everyone in the world called Garoppolo. Except Sam. It wasn't rocket science.

Try and keep up dingus because that was slow even for you

Originally Posted by redhaze

So did AO and pretty much anyone else with half a brain.

Originally Posted by redhaze

Everyone in the world called Garoppolo.

yeah, some people actually did....but claiming that you called it when he was 3-0...after week 15?

Originally Posted by redhaze

I called Garapolo

OK, i call gronkowski!

and todd gurley!

Wow you're really reaching. Pretty pathetic level of desperation.

Ray, when you’re red and you haven’t been right about really anything ever, even your own team, you need to dig deep.

So you think jimmy is how good, red? Top ten in the lg? Who are his peers potentialwise entering next season?

Assume you’re gonna ignore your absurd Stanton statement

On another note, who's going to win it all this year?

Any opinions?

I'm not very interested but will watch some playoff games.

As for the cards overall, where do you rank them in the div? Rams are top going forward. Seahawks will still be tough as long as they have Wilson. 49ers must be set since your boy jimmy is there. Cards have maybe 25% of what they need to contend. Hmm. Seems tough for Arizona don’t it. If only arians hadn’t run your team into the ground. Oh but you might still have have fitz for a nice 5-11 farewell tour. Yay

^ you are like the FarT of sports....

Between pats Steelers and chiefs in afc. Rams eagles and vikes for nfc. I’m sick of ne but they have to be the favorites with brown and shazier hurt. Chiefs have the pieces but not sure they’re ready to contend strategywise. Foles likely eliminates philly. If Keemun doesn’t get overwhelmed it should come down to the min la div rd gn. That’s a tossup. Either team could beat anyone from afc.

And you, ao, love to, in trumpian fashion, attack the likes of coldpizza with relentless zeal. Oh, how mighty you have become.