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    Elderly German Commits Suicide In Pattaya After Too Much Stress

    ELDERLY GERMAN COMMITS SUICIDE IN PATTAYA AFTER TOO MUCH STRESS

    A severely stressed out German national managed, after at least two suicide attempts, to finally kill himself on 17 June 2009 in Na Jomtien. Doctors had previously expressed concern at his mental state and the fact that he appeared to be taking too much medication for gout.

    The victim, Mr. Karl Klaus Hofmeister, [70], shot himself in the head at their home in Na Jomtien, Pol. Lt. Arnon Infong, Na Jomtien Police Investigator learnt when Mr. Karl’s Thai wife, Mrs. Daoroong Saowapun, [36, reported the incident to him at 00.30 am, on 17 June 2009. A police team and paramedics were duly sent to investigate.

    Arriving at the incident location, police found the distraught widow and the victim’s body, lying naked in the bedroom of the house. He had a bullet wound in the back of his skull and a bullet cartridge case was found nearby, with a Smith and Wesson .38 mm. revolver lying near his feet. Police also found some gunpowder residue on his left hand and mouth.

    Mrs. Daoroong was crying uncontrollably and actually fainted during the investigation; police sent her to the hospital. After recovering sufficiently, Mrs. Daoroong was able to tell police that her husband had been a victim of gout for about 20 years and had been on medication for a considerable time. His doctor had apparently recently told him that he had been taking too much chemical medication.


    Mrs. Daoroong said, in addition, that her husband was also worried whether or not his son-in-law would come to visit him, which had made him even more stressed out. Mr. Hofmeister had apparently been visiting doctors at many hospitals, of late, one of whom had expressed the opinion that his patient was also suffering from a serious mental condition as well, according to Mrs. Daoroong.

    She also told police that on 18 May, this year, her husband had previously attempted to commit suicide by taking 30 sleeping tablets, but a doctor had managed to save his life. Since then, he had kept telling her that he wanted to kill himself, which had necessitated her having to keep him under constant observation. On the night of the incident, while everybody was resting, she had been watching TV in the living room. Mr. Hofmeister had apparently finished his shower and had then gone to the bedroom and shut the door. Not too long after, she heard a gunshot, and rushing to the bedroom had found him dead on the bed.

    The police intend to carry out further investigations but for now they presume that Mr. Hofmeister had sat on the edge of the bed and used his left hand to hold the gun and put it in his mouth before pulling the trigger.

    Mr. Hofmeister’s body was sent to Bangkok for further examination and his embassy is being informed accordingly.

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    Don't hassle the Hof.

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    I really wish they would point at the dead guy so I can tell where he is.

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    Surely it is a lot more difficult to shoot oneself in the back of the head, as opposed to the side of the head
    Maybe the filths fingers should be pointing at his wife?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Arriving at the incident location, police found the distraught widow and the victim’s body, lying naked in the bedroom of the house.
    I wonder why she didn't get dressed

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    Quote Originally Posted by mordiboy
    Surely it is a lot more difficult to shoot oneself in the back of the head, as opposed to the side of the head Maybe the filths fingers should be pointing at his wife?
    In the mouth and out thru the brain stem, a lot more sure than in the side of the head, some live thru that.

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    You can see how neat us germans are, he had a shower first before killing himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorTud View Post
    Don't hassle the Hof.

    Another stupid comment from tuddles .R.I.P to the kraut !

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    Anybody remember the Hofmeister beer commercials a few years back with the "follow the bear" campaign and slogan?

    Never really liked that beer much....I always thought we where following the bear as he's due for a piss in your pint glass

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    He had a bullet wound in the back of his skull and a bullet cartridge case was found nearby, with a Smith and Wesson .38 mm. revolver lying near his feet.
    So who removed the cartridge from the revolver after it was fired?

    Either shoddy reporting, or sloppy forensics......quite possibly both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    In the mouth and out thru the brain stem
    You can still miss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorTud
    Don't hassle the Hof.
    An excellent comment from Tuddles. Good on yer Tud!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    In the mouth and out thru the brain stem
    You can still miss.
    Do you speak through experience?

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    Considering that most humans only use a wee smidgen of their cerebral cortex, I say most would never notice... The daft German found the itch and scratched it...

    And as WS noted, just who removed the casing from the revolver and discarded it on the floor???

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    A .45 Smith and Wesson would blow quite a large hole out of the back of his head if he shot himself in the mouth, or the bullet would ricochet around the skull cavity without exiting, depending on how much powder/force the bullet had.

    In the above instance an exit wound was found at the back of the skull, seemingly only a small one, unusual to say the least, and no exiting of brain tissue, blood etc which sprays broadly out of the wound, especially if it were a close contact wound, due to the build-up of gases in the explosion.

    There should have been quite a mess behind him, on the walls, pillows, bedsheets.

    So he wasn't shot from infront, for only a small amount of blood is visible behind him, on the pillow.

    Blood from an entry wound is much less, often only a few drops if that, depending if a major blood vessel was severed causing a gush

    If the gun fell to the floor by his foot, he would have to be leaning forward as he sat, then fallen forward/and/or a little to one side after the shot.

    Gunpowder residue would have been on both hands in contact with the gun, not just his left hand, and would stipple the inside of his mouth as well as cauterize the entry wound in the mouth.

    The empty cartridge case found on the floor is interesting, the gun user dropped it there after removing it from the revolver. How many bullets left in the gun?

    I think that he was 'assisted'.

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    I think it is a 38 caliber ,not MM--38 cal is very close in size to a 9MM,,if in fact it is a 38 revolver,there wouldn't be a spent cartirdge on the floor,,revolvers don't eject a shell,after you shoot the bullets,you flip the barrel out and empty the shells and reload--but if was a pistol,it would have a clip and eject the spent shells after each shot---if it was a 38 and he shot it in his mouth there would be a much bigger hole than the size of the bullet in the back of his--unless it was a 38 magnum,,in that case a large portion of the back of his head would be missing--well not missing,just no longer attached to his head

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    In the mouth and out thru the brain stem
    You can still miss.

    Just leave a note asking to be taken to one of Pattaya's "for profit" hospitals, then leave another note in your pocket saying youhave no health insurance or assets. That should assure a "successful" death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonraker
    Do you speak through experience?
    Yes, I met 2 blokes who'd tried to top themselves this way. Both failed but were a bit, well quite a lot, disfigured.

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    Low velocity projectiles from pistols dont usually leave a big exit wound unless they fragment.

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    i just went back and looked at the pics,here and on pattaya one news.its a revolver for sure and there is no way that the shell from the bullet that killed him could be anywhere but in the barrel of the revolver--they also make it look like he fired it with his left hand,,most people are right handed and shoot themself holding the gun in there right hand..the pics in pattaya one news shows his left hand with a lot of gun powder on it(highly unlikely)when you fire a gun,you get a back spray of gun powder,but it is just that a spray of small dots,usually not visible to the naked eye.It would also be impossible for the gun powder to get on the palm of his hand that he was holding the gun with--it would be on the back of his fingers and hand.I wonder why the son in law was going there to see him ?????----I think I have been reading too many crime stories

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    after at least two suicide attempts
    Obviously got sick of the bitch and her thieving family...you'll see later my reason for this.

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Doctors had previously expressed concern at his mental state
    Wouldn't anyone who had tried to top themselves...not once but twice!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Mr. Karl Klaus Hofmeister, [70], shot himself in the head at their home in Na Jomtien
    That's our story and we're sticking to it....so

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    A police team and paramedics were duly sent to investigate.
    But either not till they has finished...'kin'ing khao' or getting their cocks out of his wife in the other room!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    His doctor had apparently recently told him that he had been taking too much chemical medication.
    As opposed to what....getting on the bong daily!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Mrs. Daoroong said, in addition, that her husband was also worried whether or not his son-in-law would come to visit him, which had made him even more stressed out.
    Ah, back to my first point about his scheming 'family'. Why would the 'Bear' be worried about some scrawny little wretch...unless he was gonna tap him up for more of his hard earned...deutschmarks/euro's..(I know...artistic merit please)

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Mr. Hofmeister



    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    which had necessitated her having to keep him under constant observation.
    Just not thinking of removing 'firearms' from the house....eh LOVE??????? cause they're so sensible to have round a suicidal chap!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by tuktukdriver
    I really wish they would point at the dead guy so I can tell where he is.
    TukTuk my man...that's exactly what I was thinking...couldn't see the por bugger....

    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim
    I wonder why she didn't get dressed
    Crappy reporting one thinks....I think they meant him...Though if you look at the photo....looks like the BIB have put a towel over his manhood!!!! still in death farangs scare Thai's with their large members!!!! Hung like a 'BEAR' sorry bad taste.....in her mouth...sorry I can't stop....

    Quote Originally Posted by Muadib
    just who removed the casing from the revolver and discarded it on the floor???
    Damn good point that, Muadib.....SOUVENIR one thinks...she'll have it plated in gold...and hung round her neck on a lovely chain...

    Oh and the reason she was crying uncontrollably was that she forgot to empty his bank accounts just before his death....now she's gonna have to split that with the FILTH....

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    and no interest at all as to why / how he had the gun ...........................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    and no interest at all as to why / how he had the gun ...........................
    Don't know about anyone else, but I don't think he did. Fainting during questioning? He's seen loads of doctors and one said he was unstable? Son coming out & that was causing stress? (What if the father was going to give the son a financial gift while he was out here? Who would be caused stress by that knowledge?)

    Methinks the distraught widow had more to do with that shooting than the 'suicidal' man.

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    do a thai crime... pay no time.

    you're in their country, do you have any rights/say?

    roll the dice each day and take what comes.

    the pleasures and dangers of living in 'paradise'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonraker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    In the mouth and out thru the brain stem
    You can still miss.
    Do you speak through experience?
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