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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Tigger View Post
    How can any decent person stand back and not intervene when someone is being beaten.I know it is sometimes foolish to do so but to stand back and watch without trying to help is not the way of real human beings.
    In the prevailing political climate that would probably make you the accused.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Thai government should tell Aussie government to shove their extradition request where the sun don't shine.

    Had 3 Aussies murdered a Thai in Thailand and fled down under, the Aussie government would deny an extradition request from the Thai government. Can't have that. The pricks might get executed.
    I just read this and thought about whether they would or not and you are probably right, that would make them a holes as well.
    I would like to think they wouldnt, i think no government from anywhere should get in the way of justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brettandlek
    i think no government from anywhere should get in the way of justice.
    My comment a bit tongue in cheek but agree, no government should get in the way of justice. Justice is a function of the laws of a particular country. If someone breaks the law in a country they deserve to be tried in accordance with and as punishable by the law of that country. Refusal to extradite to a particular country because another country does not like their laws is something which should not be practiced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brettandlek
    i think no government from anywhere should get in the way of justice.
    My comment a bit tongue in cheek but agree, no government should get in the way of justice. Justice is a function of the laws of a particular country. If someone breaks the law in a country they deserve to be tried in accordance with and as punishable by the law of that country. Refusal to extradite to a particular country because another country does not like their laws is something which should not be practiced.
    Somebody needs to remind S.A about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrabow
    Somebody needs to remind S.A about that.
    Lost me here Carrabow but if you say so, I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nostromo
    Russian scum and mafia are making Thailand worse for all of us others.
    which variation of scum are you, nos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Carrabow
    Somebody needs to remind S.A about that.
    Lost me here Carrabow but if you say so, I agree.
    South America has countries that are oblivious to this idea.

    Hope that helps

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    Experts fly out to defend jail, justice system

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    May 20, 2011

    A TEAM of Victorian experts will leave for Thailand tomorrow to defend the state's jail and justice systems at a pre-extradition hearing for two men allegedly involved in the murder of Luke Mitchell.

    The delegation, requested by Thailand, will include a Homicide Squad detective, a senior Crown prosecutor and an official from Corrections Victoria. Two Thai nationals charged with the murder of Mr Mitchell will fight extradition from Bangkok, claiming that they will not receive a fair trial in Melbourne and that the Victorian jails they will be held in are Third World standard.

    Sarud Seehaverachart, 28, and Thatiya Terdputham 25, have been charged with the stabbing murder of the 29-year-old Sanctuary Lakes chef outside a Brunswick convenience store, close to where he allegedly stepped in to break up a fight outside a nightclub on May 24, 2009. It is alleged that three men involved in the murder then fled to Thailand.

    Police have been unable to track down the third man allegedly involved in the murder.
    "Slavery is the daughter of darkness; an ignorant people is the blind instrument of its own destruction; ambition and intrigue take advantage of the credulity and inexperience of men who have no political, economic or civil knowledge. They mistake pure illusion for reality, license for freedom, treason for patriotism, vengeance for justice."-Simón Bolívar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    Thai government should tell Aussie government to shove their extradition request where the sun don't shine.
    WTF ARE YOU ON ABOUT?


    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    Had 3 Aussies murdered a Thai in Thailand and fled down under, the Aussie government would deny an extradition request from the Thai government. Can't have that. The pricks might get executed.
    Absolutely nothing to do with this case, you're speculating and even if you're correct it still has nothing to do with these three arseholes stabbing and kicking a man to death!

    The problem is your posting from where the sun doesn't shine you WANKER!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog View Post
    Experts fly out to defend jail, justice system

    Paul Millar

    May 20, 2011

    A TEAM of Victorian experts will leave for Thailand tomorrow to defend the state's jail and justice systems at a pre-extradition hearing for two men allegedly involved in the murder of Luke Mitchell.

    The delegation, requested by Thailand, will include a Homicide Squad detective, a senior Crown prosecutor and an official from Corrections Victoria. Two Thai nationals charged with the murder of Mr Mitchell will fight extradition from Bangkok, claiming that they will not receive a fair trial in Melbourne and that the Victorian jails they will be held in are Third World standard.

    Sarud Seehaverachart, 28, and Thatiya Terdputham 25, have been charged with the stabbing murder of the 29-year-old Sanctuary Lakes chef outside a Brunswick convenience store, close to where he allegedly stepped in to break up a fight outside a nightclub on May 24, 2009. It is alleged that three men involved in the murder then fled to Thailand.

    Police have been unable to track down the third man allegedly involved in the murder.

    The final indignity, the Australian government is forced to send a delegation to testify to a panel of monkeys that the Australian prison regime is a fit and proper place, as compared to the Thai regime which palpably isn't, in which to detain 2 homicidal chickenheads once they are extradited.

    Personally, if I were the Australian premier and these thugs weren't extradited without further ado I would take Australia out of the FTA, increase visit visa fees for the Thai to $10,000 an application, exclude all Thai from student visa applications since most are bogus and used to facilitate entry into a country by means not otherwise available and down grade their embassy to consular status only.
    No country in the world needs Thailand as much it needs them.
    The only thing the Thai understand is money and the constant reminder that their country is nothing more than a glorified brothel run by a ragbag collection of mafiosi masquerading as politicians with a few nice beaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegent View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog View Post
    Experts fly out to defend jail, justice system

    Paul Millar

    May 20, 2011

    A TEAM of Victorian experts will leave for Thailand tomorrow to defend the state's jail and justice systems at a pre-extradition hearing for two men allegedly involved in the murder of Luke Mitchell.

    The delegation, requested by Thailand, will include a Homicide Squad detective, a senior Crown prosecutor and an official from Corrections Victoria. Two Thai nationals charged with the murder of Mr Mitchell will fight extradition from Bangkok, claiming that they will not receive a fair trial in Melbourne and that the Victorian jails they will be held in are Third World standard.

    Sarud Seehaverachart, 28, and Thatiya Terdputham 25, have been charged with the stabbing murder of the 29-year-old Sanctuary Lakes chef outside a Brunswick convenience store, close to where he allegedly stepped in to break up a fight outside a nightclub on May 24, 2009. It is alleged that three men involved in the murder then fled to Thailand.

    Police have been unable to track down the third man allegedly involved in the murder.

    The final indignity, the Australian government is forced to send a delegation to testify to a panel of monkeys that the Australian prison regime is a fit and proper place, as compared to the Thai regime which palpably isn't, in which to detain 2 homicidal chickenheads once they are extradited.

    Personally, if I were the Australian premier and these thugs weren't extradited without further ado I would take Australia out of the FTA, increase visit visa fees for the Thai to $10,000 an application, exclude all Thai from student visa applications since most are bogus and used to facilitate entry into a country by means not otherwise available and down grade their embassy to consular status only.
    No country in the world needs Thailand as much it needs them.
    The only thing the Thai understand is money and the constant reminder that their country is nothing more than a glorified brothel run by a ragbag collection of mafiosi masquerading as politicians with a few nice beaches.
    That's true, except the part about the beaches.
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    ^^ Yet here you are.

    Amazing Thailand.

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    Well, yes, a reasonable point.

    Luckily, I can lead a life here parallel to the little bastards and am very careful not to engage with them unless it is to transact some service or other, the terms of which are advantageous to me.

    Having said that, sometimes choices are made for one but as things stand I am reasonably confident elsewhere will be a viable option.

    Don't get me wrong, there are attractions but the demerits seem to be increasing not least the Thai capacity for stupidity which never fails to astonish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    Two Thai nationals charged with the murder of Mr Mitchell will fight extradition from Bangkok, claiming that they will not receive a fair trial in Melbourne and that the Victorian jails they will be held in are Third World standard.
    Comical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    Two Thai nationals charged with the murder of Mr Mitchell will fight extradition from Bangkok, claiming that they will not receive a fair trial in Melbourne and that the Victorian jails they will be held in are Third World standard.
    Farcical .

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    Thai men fight extradition over Australian's death
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    Two Thai men who are fighting extradition to Australia over the murder of a Melbourne man have appeared in court in Bangkok.

    Australian authorities are trying to get the pair extradited over the death of chef Luke Mitchell in May 2009.

    Mr Mitchell was stabbed five times after a fight outside a nightclub in suburban Melbourne.

    Sarud Seehaverachart, Thatiya Terdputham and a third man who is still at large were studying in the city.

    They fled back to Thailand after the incident, sparking criticism of Australian police who failed to stop them.

    The accused are fighting extradition, claiming Mr Mitchell was drunk and they acted in self-defence.

    An Australian prosecutor present at the hearing has told the court that the pair would get a fair trial in Australia.

    xxx.xxx.xx

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    We want alleged killers tried here - brother | The Australian

    We want alleged killers tried here - brother


    THE brother of murdered good samaritan Luke Mitchell hopes the two Thai men charged with his stabbing death face justice in Melbourne.

    Shane Mitchell says his family is prepared for a long legal battle to get Sarud Seehaverachart, 28, and Thatiya Terdputham, 25, extradited from Thailand after their appearance yesterday in a Bangkok court.
    Mr Mitchell told The Age he always expected it to be a protracted process, but was confident the tenacity of homicide detectives from Victoria and the Thai and Australian justice systems would prevail.
    "We would like to think that the system will work in our favour," Mr Mitchell said. "It's important for the family that the matter will be settled here."
    A team of Victorian experts were in court for Monday's hearing after the two alleged killers said they would not get a fair trial in Australia and they would fear for their lives in jail.
    care factor zero

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    Send em to the International Criminal Court then, along with abisit

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    Most likely Luke would still be alive if he had kept his nose in his own business.
    Seems like most folks on this forum seem to think that is the way it should be done, if it be an individual or a country.
    If if ain't your business then stay out of it and do not be doing anything for anyone..
    Yea, and that goes for you too USA.
    exactly.

    How many times does this have to happen ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    Most likely Luke would still be alive if he had kept his nose in his own business.
    Seems like most folks on this forum seem to think that is the way it should be done, if it be an individual or a country.
    If if ain't your business then stay out of it and do not be doing anything for anyone..
    Yea, and that goes for you too USA.
    exactly.

    How many times does this have to happen ?
    Socal replying to Blackgang.
    Seems about right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegent
    Luckily, I can lead a life here parallel to the little bastards and am very careful not to engage with them unless it is to transact some service or other, the terms of which are advantageous to me.
    God "oldboy" and to think I'd got you down as just an arrogant pompous snob and now I realise I've missed something, on top of that you're an "Arthur Daley" recluse!

    Amazing.... NOT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo
    Quote: Originally Posted by socal Quote: Originally Posted by blackgang Most likely Luke would still be alive if he had kept his nose in his own business. Seems like most folks on this forum seem to think that is the way it should be done, if it be an individual or a country. If if ain't your business then stay out of it and do not be doing anything for anyone.. Yea, and that goes for you too USA. exactly. How many times does this have to happen ? Socal replying to Blackgang. Seems about right.:smileylaugh ing:
    I was just thinking the same thing, but wasn't going to comment..saying that yes you're right yet another one of "social's" golden posts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bold Rodney View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo
    Quote: Originally Posted by socal Quote: Originally Posted by blackgang Most likely Luke would still be alive if he had kept his nose in his own business. Seems like most folks on this forum seem to think that is the way it should be done, if it be an individual or a country. If if ain't your business then stay out of it and do not be doing anything for anyone.. Yea, and that goes for you too USA. exactly. How many times does this have to happen ? Socal replying to Blackgang. Seems about right.:smileylaugh ing:
    I was just thinking the same thing, but wasn't going to comment..saying that yes you're right yet another one of "social's" golden posts!
    Even in death, Blackgang can still raise a debate.....

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    Thai men fight extradition over Melbourne murder
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    September 26, 2011

    Two Thai men accused of murdering a Melbourne chef in a fight have asked a Bangkok court not to extradite them to Australia.

    The judge at the hearing has set November 30 as the date for judgment on the extradition of Sarud Seehaverachart and Thatiya Terdputham over the murder of Melbourne man Luke Mitchell in May 2009.

    The court heard the two accused would prefer to be tried in Thailand because they are Thai citizens and believe in Thai justice.

    Mr Mitchell was fatally stabbed in a fight outside a Brunswick nightclub.
    The two accused were studying in Melbourne at the time.

    Both accused men say a third Thai man who is still at large is to blame for Mr Mitchell's death.

    They have previously said that Mr Mitchell was drunk and the stabbing was in self-defence.

    xxx.xxx.xx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    The court heard the two accused would prefer to be tried in Thailand because they are Thai citizens and believe in Thai justice.
    What`s that?

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