Thread: Pregnant Brit Faces Firing Squad In Laos

Originally Posted by SiLeakHunt

do you know owt about it

No but my bro was one

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Originally Posted by SiLeakHunt

I'm studying for a PostGrad in Petroleum Geoscience.

So you're going to be a mud logger.

Is that similar to a fudge-packer?

Originally Posted by Anne26

It seems laos have a history of arresting people for no good reason, and here is the proof, make your own minds up, but I think something should be done!!

Funniest and most incorrect statement ever when it comes to talking about Newman. He was a crook of the highest order!

Laotian law prohibits the execution of pregnant women. The woman is reported to have confessed to having got herself pregnant deliberately to avoid the death penalty. However, it is true; no foreigner has ever been executed in Laos. The crime she is accused of is serious and deserves a serious penalty. You should save your outrage and tears for a more worthy object.

Well she look happy now the U.K tax payer are providing her accommodation,guess they will have to stump up for her bastard child to.
Pregnant Laos Jail Brit Returns To UK: Samantha Orobator, A Heroin Trafficker, Flown To London | World News | Sky News

how come this stupid girl gets sent back home to do her time in a luxury uk prison whilst other brits, just as stupid and equally undeserving, are still stuck in a laotian pigsty for the next 50 years.

whats so special about her other than her turkey baster pregnancy?

She is black and therefore a natural 'victim' female and pregnant helps. If she was a disabled lesbian she would have the full suite in the PC deck of excuse cards.

yea and after her appeal here will she even do the time??? as they are claiming an unfair trial

Originally Posted by duggie

yea and after her appeal here will she even do the time???

Doubt she will. Saw an interview with her mum on TV. In summary, "Getting her out of Lao is first step. Getting her out of jail next step."

Worthless trash. The UK has no hope. Let her have the kid in the UK then send her back to Laos for execution or... more monkey sex.

Originally Posted by Jools

Originally Posted by blackgang

Originally Posted by good2bhappy

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon We just call a spade a spade isn't there another name?

Yes, some call it a fucking shovel.

Originally Posted by Jools

This is one of the areas where I disagree with the UK and US. Too much emphasis on stopping a simple market function: supply and demand. Governments create environments where people feel they need to turn to drugs to escape their grim circumstances and then assess draconian penalties for doing so.

Would you be so kind to a Heroin Horse if that drug had been the death of 2 of your children.?

The issue is not kindness but fairness and rational action. If my child is unwise enough to swallow rat poison, do I then have the right to kill or prosecute the owner of the grocery store who sold it to him? Personal responsibility (or the lack of it) is at the root of all "drug problems". Irrational laws only make the non-problem a real problem.

agreed.

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Originally Posted by blackgang

Would you be so kind to a Heroin Horse if that drug had been the death of 2 of your children.?

I would put it down to extemely bad parenting.

agreed.

Originally Posted by taxexile

how come this stupid girl gets sent back home to do her time in a luxury uk prison

The UK is not her home, she should be sent back to her place of birth. And save the UK tax payer some money.

The UK is not her home, she should be sent back to her place of birth. And save the UK tax payer some money.

Hear, Hear! If only the British government went to the same lengths for genuine Brits imprisoned abroad. She's a nigerian drug smuggler the same as many of her (true) countrymen. She should have been left to rot in a Lao jail.

Samantha Orobator trial made a 'mockery of justice' and should not be recognised in the UK, says solicitor


Sam Jones
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 26 August 2009 15.09 BST


Samantha Orobator, who is due to give birth next month, was given a life sentence in June after being found guilty of drug smuggling in Laos. Photograph: AP

The pregnant British woman who is serving a sentence in a London prison for smuggling heroin in Laos has launched an appeal against her conviction.

Samantha Orobator, from Peckham, south London, was given a life sentence in June after being found guilty of smuggling in the south-east Asian country.

The 20-year-old, who is due to give birth next month, returned home this month and was sent to Holloway prison.

She has described her ordeal over the past year as an "unimaginable nightmare".

Today her lawyers said she had been subjected to a "disgraceful show trial", denied access to legal representation, and prevented from defending herself.

The action, launched by solicitors Bindmans and the legal charity Reprieve, argues her conviction is "manifestly unsafe" and should not be recognised here.

Orobator's solicitor, Rhona Friedman, said: "Here we have a flagrant denial of justice to a British citizen abroad. Samantha was subjected to a sham legal process that makes a mockery of justice. The Laos conviction is manifestly unsafe and should not be recognised in this country."

A preliminary hearing of the case will take place at the high court in London next week. Orobator's lawyers will argue she is being held unlawfully, and ask for a judicial review of the government order keeping her in prison.

Clare Algar, executive director of Reprieve, said Orobator was being held to "placate" the Laos regime. "As a vulnerable young woman far from home, Samantha was exploited by a government determined to convict her and uninterested in her defence," she said.

The Laos government's handling of this case, added Algar, showed their "contempt for truth, decency and legal rights". She went on: "We hope the British government recognises that Samantha's life must not be thrown away simply to placate that regime."

Orobator was arrested on 5 August last year as she tried to board a flight for Australia with, it is claimed, 1.5lb (680g) of heroin in capsules on her body. She faced death by firing squad until it was revealed she was pregnant. Laotian law states pregnant women cannot be executed.

While in prison she was forced to make statements praising the authorities, while being denied proper access to a lawyer, she said. After the trial, she was allowed to return home to serve her sentence under a prisoner transfer agreement.

On her arrival at Heathrow on 7 August, she said she was "enormously relieved and happy to be back on British soil".

It remains unclear exactly how Orobator conceived her child as she was in the female-only wing of Phonthong prison in the Laos capital, Vientiane, at the time.

Early reports that she had been raped by a guard were followed by suggestions that she had deliberately tried to escape the death penalty by obtaining semen from another British prisoner, John Watson. No doubt she will be on legal aid,ie the taxpayer will be paying her quite considerable legal costs.

why not just save the money and let the bitch out now, coz that's what the outcome will be. Before sending such people back they should agree not to appeal as an appeal against proceedings in another country with different legal procedures is likely to be just as much a 'mockery of justice'. Seems she is not denying drug smuggling, and in getting pregnant and avoiding the proper penalty that she is the one who made a mockery out of the legal system in Laos and is going to continue that in the UK with the help of Reprive and other friends of traffickers.

No wonder this heroin smuggler was pleased to get back to stupid UK her lawyers argued her 'human rights' had been breached and have applied for her release as the poor dear has already spent 18 months in prison. Now she blames two other Nigerians who 'raped' her and forced her to carry the drugs, about as convincing as somebody saying the Devil made them do it

BBC News - Laos drug Briton Samantha Orobator has jail term cut

play with fire and you WILL get burnt

Originally Posted by leo54

play with fire and you WILL get burnt

meaning?