Muslims don't decry extremism? Yet another prominent one

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Originally Posted by boloa

A juxtaposition of two propaganda pieces.

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Take your pick, the choice is yours :)

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A juxtaposition.

Intellectual mofos up in this place.

Respect.

Spot on.

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Originally Posted by Ronin

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Originally Posted by Necron99

The Koran is the crazed manifesto of a semi literate whackjob who cherrypicked bits of earlier works and then just threw in any shit he felt would help him gaiin adherents or maintain power.

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Have you actually read the Koran in it's original language?

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Of course he hasn't, neither did you or anyone else posting on this thread so far.

It's in Arabic.

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Originally Posted by Dragonfly94

No such thing as moderate Muslims because there is no such thing as moderate Islam. The koran is a sick violent handbook of hate and the prophet was a murdering peodophile, nothing moderate about either. You either believe in this evil or you don't, no half measures.

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Exactly.

You're a Muslim or not, there's no such thing as moderate Islam or a Moderate Muslim.

It's all or nothing.

Half of British Muslims don't even attend a mosque, they're not moderate, they're backsliders and seeing through the bullshit they were reared in.

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Originally Posted by ENT

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Originally Posted by Ronin

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Originally Posted by Necron99

The Koran is the crazed manifesto of a semi literate whackjob who cherrypicked bits of earlier works and then just threw in any shit he felt would help him gaiin adherents or maintain power.

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Have you actually read the Koran in it's original language?

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Of course he hasn't, neither did you or anyone else posting on this thread so far.

It's in Arabic.

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Yet, keep in mind - archaic Semitic Arabic.

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Originally Posted by Ronin

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Originally Posted by cyrille

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Originally Posted by Ronin

Have you actually read the Koran in it's original language?

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Don't tell me someone who writes his own language as if he's typing with knitting needles is now claiming to read Arabic?

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I was merely asking Necron a question, where did I say I read Arabic you senile old fool!

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Are you saying that you need to read it in Arabic in order to understand its message?

Are there concepts relevant to human morality and spirituality that can only be communicated in Arabic?

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Originally Posted by ENT

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Originally Posted by Ronin

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Originally Posted by Necron99

The Koran is the crazed manifesto of a semi literate whackjob who cherrypicked bits of earlier works and then just threw in any shit he felt would help him gaiin adherents or maintain power.

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Have you actually read the Koran in it's original language?

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Of course he hasn't, neither did you or anyone else posting on this thread so far.

It's in Arabic.

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I have, but not all of it.

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Originally Posted by Looper

Are you saying that you need to read it in Arabic in order to understand its message?

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That maybe a possibility - at least one documentary I watched some time ago pointed out a large number of incorrect translations. Should I be able to find any link I will gladly supply it to you.

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Originally Posted by ENT

Of course he hasn't, neither did you or anyone else posting on this thread so far.

It's in Arabic.

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Who asked you and how would you know anyway? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by ENT

You're a Muslim or not, there's no such thing as moderate Islam or a Moderate Muslim.

It's all or nothing.

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So there's no such thing as a radical Muslim or Muslim extremists. And no fundamentalist Muslims? Or are they just orthodox (or perhaps ultra-orthodox) Muslims? No?

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Originally Posted by Neverna

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Originally Posted by ENT

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Originally Posted by Ronin

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Originally Posted by Necron99

The Koran is the crazed manifesto of a semi literate whackjob who cherrypicked bits of earlier works and then just threw in any shit he felt would help him gaiin adherents or maintain power.

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Have you actually read the Koran in it's original language?

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Of course he hasn't, neither did you or anyone else posting on this thread so far.

It's in Arabic.

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I have, but not all of it.

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And not much of it either.

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Originally Posted by ENT

You're a Muslim or not, there's no such thing as moderate Islam or a Moderate Muslim.

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BS!!!!

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Originally Posted by Ronin

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Originally Posted by ENT

Of course he hasn't, neither did you or anyone else posting on this thread so far.

It's in Arabic.

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Who asked you and how would you know anyway? :rolleyes:

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Read and study deep and wide, little boy, and you'll understand.

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Originally Posted by Ronin

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Originally Posted by ENT

You're a Muslim or not, there's no such thing as moderate Islam or a Moderate Muslim.

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BS!!!!

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Having bowel problems or just spitting the dummy, kiddo? :rofl:

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Originally Posted by Looper

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Originally Posted by Ronin

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Originally Posted by cyrille

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Originally Posted by Ronin

Have you actually read the Koran in it's original language?

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Don't tell me someone who writes his own language as if he's typing with knitting needles is now claiming to read Arabic?

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I was merely asking Necron a question, where did I say I read Arabic you senile old fool!

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Are you saying that you need to read it in Arabic in order to understand its message?

Are there concepts relevant to human morality and spirituality that can only be communicated in Arabic?

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There's no need to read it in Arabic, it's available in English.

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Originally Posted by ENT

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Originally Posted by Ronin

Have you actually read the Koran in it's original language?

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Don't tell me someone who writes his own language as if he's typing with knitting needles is now claiming to read Arabic?

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I was merely asking Necron a question, where did I say I read Arabic you senile old fool!

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Are you saying that you need to read it in Arabic in order to understand its message?

Are there concepts relevant to human morality and spirituality that can only be communicated in Arabic?

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There's no need to read it in Arabic, it's available in English.

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So is the Bible, so you don't need a pesher. :smileylaughing:

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Originally Posted by Ronin

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Originally Posted by Looper

Are you saying that you need to read it in Arabic in order to understand its message?

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That maybe a possibility

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But most academics agree that language is subordinate to conceptual thought and not the other way around.

If an idea exists there will be a way to express it in any advanced human language.

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Originally Posted by Neverna

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Originally Posted by ENT

You're a Muslim or not, there's no such thing as moderate Islam or a Moderate Muslim.

It's all or nothing.

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So there's no such thing as a radical Muslim or Muslim extremists. And no fundamentalist Muslims? Or are they just orthodox (or perhaps ultra-orthodox) Muslims? No?

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That's right, as you well know.

You can't pick and choose about how much of a Muslim you want to be.

It's all or nothing, submit to the will of allah as directed by the koran or be punished, with death for apostasy.

The radicals and extremists you're on about are the ones who express their jihad more violently than others, who are just normal Muslims.

There are several interpretations of Islam, four main schools, so four interpretations as well as the sunnahs, but none are moderate in any sense.

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Originally Posted by Neverna

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Originally Posted by ENT

There's no need to read it in Arabic, it's available in English.

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So is the Bible, so you don't need a pesher.

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Have you totally taken leave of your senses?

Try and understand what pesharim are.

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Originally Posted by ENT

You're a Muslim or not, there's no such thing as moderate Islam or a Moderate Muslim. It's all or nothing.

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Seriously, with a comment like that I have to ask- have you ventured from mom's basement very often since puberty? Where exactly have you been?

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Originally Posted by Looper

If an idea exists there will be a way to express it in any advanced human language.

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Yes, of course but I was considering the fact that many languages, as I expect you already know either don't translate or do so badly often rendering them open to various interpretations sometimes with more than one being valid.

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Originally Posted by Ronin

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Originally Posted by Ronin

Have you actually read the Koran in it's original language?

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Don't tell me someone who writes his own language as if he's typing with knitting needles is now claiming to read Arabic?

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I was merely asking Necron a question, where did I say I read Arabic you senile old fool!

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Are you saying that you need to read it in Arabic in order to understand its message?

Are there concepts relevant to human morality and spirituality that can only be communicated in Arabic?

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There's no need to read it in Arabic, it's available in English.

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Get back under your rock.

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Originally Posted by stroller

The stuff in the Koran stands - fortunately most Muslims know better than to take it literally.

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Most do take it literally that's the problem and that's why the book of hate is causing so much death, suffering and misery around the world everyday. There are over 109 suras in the book of hate calling for violence, turn on the news almost anytime and see the result. Islam is evil, the fact that some ignore what they profess to believe does not make it less so, or it's effects any less devastating.

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Originally Posted by sabang

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Originally Posted by ENT

You're a Muslim or not, there's no such thing as moderate Islam or a Moderate Muslim. It's all or nothing.

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Seriously, with a comment like that I have to ask- have you ventured from mom's basement very often since puberty? Where exactly have you been?

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That's rich coming from a Freemason!
Are you also a church-goer?

Islam has been an aggressive religion from the start, moderation isn't part of the creed.

The whole idea of moderate Islam is a modern western concept, pushed by the PC brigade, it's not a Muslim one, it's just the flavour that you as a non-Muslim want to take Islam in.

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Originally Posted by sabang

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Originally Posted by ENT

You're a Muslim or not, there's no such thing as moderate Islam or a Moderate Muslim. It's all or nothing.

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Seriously, with a comment like that I have to ask- have you ventured from mom's basement very often since puberty? Where exactly have you been?

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Far out in space...
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