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^^ Great.
Then we saw in the last month a rise in overt wannabee jihadism,...several young girls, a family with kids and the son of a Muslimcity councillor,(look at his @I'm so famous grin in his arrest pic............ no one knew nothing, oh shock and horror etc.
Then an other bunch at dover, about a weekly - 10 day cycle,....must be the moon... :)
Let 'em vote with their feet.
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Originally Posted by Dragonfly94
Quite the well-read bunch . . . but I am surprised at ENT's vehemence in this debateQuote:
Originally Posted by sabang
Quite . . . like:Quote:
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Care to show me where you get the 250 million from? Please, credible sources, not the aforementionedQuote:
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Then there's the other lot fighting to get in and escape the shit they left.
So who's treating the mainly Muslim/Afrcans etc to make 'em look forasaylum?
Why're they going to Europe for respite?
Teir own kind.
Simple.
They can all get a blond angel and go on the dole for life, for five camels.
No such thing as moderate Muslims because there is no such thing as moderate Islam. The koran is a sick violent handbook of hate and the prophet was a murdering peodophile, nothing moderate about either. You either believe in this evil or you don't, no half measures.Quote:
Originally Posted by boloa
There is some outrage by Muslim moderates but not as much as most non Muslims would like .Quote:
Originally Posted by Necron99
UK imams condemn Isis in online video - BBC News
And you studied the Koran where exactly, on Islamisevil.blogspot?
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At least I read the shit, did you? Here's a women who knows what to do with it and whyQuote:
Originally Posted by stroller
www.youtube.com/watch?v=htshvId51UE
^ Which version or translation did you read?
I have read both the koran and the bible.Quote:
Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
I do think that the koran takes a stronger line against women than the bible.
Maybe because it was written at a different point in the human cultural evolution timeline.
One example I remember was the difference in the fate of the woman with whom Joseph (not mary's husband the other joseph with the coat) has an affair (his boss's wife) but it was a few years ago I read them so I will have to brush up before I can expand on the example.
^ Is the Bible more of an equal opportunity text when it comes to killing?
Deuteronomy 13:6-9
If your brother, your mother’s son, or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul, entice you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods’ (whom neither you nor your fathers have known, 7 of the gods of the peoples who are around you, near you or far from you, from one end of the earth to the other end), 8 you shall not yield to him or listen to him; and your eye shall not pity him, nor shall you spare or conceal him. 9 But you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
Hosea 13:16
The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open.”
Allah says knock some sense into them
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlyeT1MBEzE
^^Not sure what your quotes are trying to establish Neverna?
The bible and the koran both contain very many rulings on justification for killing so these are only 2 examples.
The difference is, that the atrocious content of the O.T. was 'reformed' through the teachings of Jesus, i.e. the new contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by Looper
The stuff in the Koran stands - fortunately most Muslims know better than to take it literally.
An excellent question . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by stroller
Ok, thank you. Where and what translation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonfly94
Yes, well . . . they would look elsewhere . . . what that called again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Neverna
Ah yes. Apostasy.
I agree that the trilogy of the Torah, Bible and Koran represent human reinterpretations of previously written 'books of human wisdom' but it puzzles me that the Koran seems less enlightened in some respects than the bible.Quote:
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The bible was compiled and written, then re written many times by comparatively well educated people.
The Koran is the crazed manifesto of a semi literate whackjob who cherrypicked bits of earlier works and then just threw in any shit he felt would help him gaiin adherents or maintain power.
Compelling debating styleQuote:
Originally Posted by Necron99
Sounds like the UKIP mission statement when you put it like that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Necron99
AUSNP?
A juxtaposition of two propaganda pieces.
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2015/04/295.jpg
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2015/04/296.jpg
Take your pick, the choice is yours :)
I'd like to see some proof of this . . . and of course you know that much of it was orally communicated and then written second or third hand - who knows.Quote:
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Ah, but you add your usual slippery-opt-out word: 'comparatively'. Nice.
From what I understand Mohammad couldn't read nor write
Have you actually read the Koran in it's original language?Quote:
Originally Posted by Necron99
Don't tell me someone who writes his own language as if he's typing with knitting needles is now claiming to read Arabic?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin
Whoever the author/narrator really was, the texts were clearly addressing issues of the time and the place.
I was merely asking Necron a question, where did I say I read Arabic you senile old fool!Quote:
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