Yes, I echo that.Quote:
Originally Posted by thailazer
The photos of Hannah with her face caved in and of her legs spread, break every taboo on the depiction of death.
However, the priority is to catch those responsible.
And if in some way the horror of those photos drive people to realize that a quick gibbeting of a couple of patsies isn't justice to those brutalities, then their ability to shock serves a purpose. They can be withdrawn once the true culprit is convicted.
All I' m saying is people who constantly seek out and look at those kind of photos and watch beheading videos etc , and even share them , maybe should seriously have a rethink about their actions and mental wellbeing .
The only people who swing their arms like that are homosexuals, as poor coordination seems to be a a symptom of the disorder/disease, other examples are a limp wrist and teapot arm .Quote:
Originally Posted by YOrlov
So even if the killings had a jealous homo motive , the dna isnt going to help .
Other than the deaths themselves, that's the worst part. I was hoping for so much better from him, and he appeared to be doing quite well until this. Kind of reminds me of the high hopes everyone had when Obama replaced Bush.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stranger
Pathetic post. The UK, along with virtually any other country, is not going to comment on an ongoing criminal investigation in another country, in the same way that the UK (and virtually every other country) would not accept external government interference to their judicial process WHEN THERE IS AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stranger
At this stage of the proceedings, I'm certain that all of the UK's diplomatic efforts and information services are being provided to the deceased families, updates of information, likely scenarios etc. Some posters on here seemingly feel more agrieved than the unfortunate families. If there was any complaint about the UK Government's action or lack of, I'm sure that family members would be voiced the same across the Daily Mail/Sun/Mirror etc. Why do you think that hasn't happened?
Mark Kent is a career diplomat, not a journalist or foreign TV correspondent What he does publicly, and what he thinks privately are possibly (nay, undoubtably different). As I believe I said in a previous post, wait and see. The UK has it's own system for the verification of circumstances of death of it's nationals, and don't think for one minute that all possible evidence isn't being prepared for these inquests.
Can't quite resist it, but your user name seems to be quite appropriate. Stranger to reality.
^ Naa, are you sure he's not related to Neville Chamberlain? They do teach British History in American schools.
logic does not kindle their cocklesQuote:
Originally Posted by PAG
Dear o' dear, somebody is well and truly rattled. I stand by every word I posted. Kent has already commented on this charade of an investigation and said the UK Embassy is satisfied. Now that's PATHETIC!Quote:
Originally Posted by PAGPathetic post. The UK, along with virtually any other country, is not going to comment on an ongoing criminal investigation in another country, in the same way that the UK (and virtually every other country) would not accept external government interference to their judicial process WHEN THERE IS AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stranger
At this stage of the proceedings, I'm certain that all of the UK's diplomatic efforts and information services are being provided to the deceased families, updates of information, likely scenarios etc. Some posters on here seemingly feel more agrieved than the unfortunate families. If there was any complaint about the UK Government's action or lack of, I'm sure that family members would be voiced the same across the Daily Mail/Sun/Mirror etc. Why do you think that hasn't happened?
Mark Kent is a career diplomat, not a journalist or foreign TV correspondent What he does publicly, and what he thinks privately are possibly (nay, undoubtably different). As I believe I said in a previous post, wait and see. The UK has it's own system for the verification of circumstances of death of it's nationals, and don't think for one minute that all possible evidence isn't being prepared for these inquests.
Can't quite resist it, but your user name seems to be quite appropriate. Stranger to reality.
Either you're a friend of Kent's and or you also work at the embassy.
Sorry Bob, you need to.explain the context of your post. I understand Chamberlain's appeasement of Hitler ("Peace in our time" etc), but not how that relates to the current UK Government. At the moment, 2 individuals have been charged with crimes against UK nationals. Whatever we think as individuals about the nature or quality of the Thai police investigation, no Government is going to be critical of another whilst there is an ongoing investigation. Even Myanmar's Prime Minister only asked Prayuth for a fair and just trial for the 2 accused.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobR
There is an ongoing coroners inquest in UK at least into the death of Hannah (did not search for the poor lad, but would think there is one there also).
Problem is, cannot see the inquest returning anything other than murder by person or persons unknown.
Not sure there is even a mechanism to request samples from another country for verification.
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Originally Posted by steffi2
(That swinging arms quote is from Steffi2. ) Not sure I can agree with your claim only homosexuals swing their arms like that. The point being a physical appearance and manner of gait are similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue
Seems McAnna has come back to claim ignorance of all matters and explain his cuts
Sean Mcanna breaks his silence on Koh Tao murders - Andrew Drummond
“I never said I knew the killers. I said that if I died that night it was the guy from (name redacted) who "did it".“Anybody with half a brain knows it would always be blamed on Burmese. I'm gutted for everyone involved, but there's really nothing I can do. I'm sorry the newspapers lied to you. Believe me, they lied about a lot of things. They just like a story”.Referring to stories about washing blood off himself in the ‘In Touch bar’ in Koh Tao McAnna said: “I had that wound from the 9th. There are plenty of people who seen me with the cut every day in restaurants, bars and dive shops.
Yeah, I often come back from a dive having to sluice blood off myself. Not.Quote:
Originally Posted by YOrlov
As far as I read it Mcanna is probably involved himself in some way, too deep to walk away with clean hands if he told the true story. Maybe not involved directly in the rape and murder, but I would bet money he was there in some capacity.
As it seems Win Zaw Htun and Zaw Lin are being framed, I'm sure they would happily submit to further sampling by British Authorities. If samples from Witheridge were preserved, or better yet taken from a coroner after arrival back in UK , it would be a simple process of DNA testing requiring no participation, or permission by Thai authorities.Quote:
Originally Posted by nidhogg
Of course we have gotten a lot of different stories on these alleged semen samples too, as far as where they were found- on her person, in her person, in several locations in and on her person, in a condom, on a condom, etc., etc..
There have been by one person on the song cloud site, insinuations of a set up system of drugging women for the Thai guys to have some fun with.Quote:
Originally Posted by nidhoggYeah, I often come back from a dive having to sluice blood off myself. Not.Quote:
Originally Posted by YOrlov
As far as I read it Mcanna is probably involved himself in some way, too deep to walk away with clean hands if he told the true story. Maybe not involved directly in the rape and murder, but I would bet money he was there in some capacity.
Will we ever see a toxicology report on Witheridge?
However I am of the opinion she was embarking on a relatively sober and consensual sexual interlude with Miller when they were both attacked.
Seem to remember early report had Miller heading back to his room at some point - to pick up a condom does not seem outside of the realms of possibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by YOrlov
As for the tox report -I would think the Uk inquest will do one.
One report , now lost in the vast report file has a condom was near the scene, empty but with Witheridge's DNA on the outside- which fits perfectly with the coitus interruptus theory.
This report from the Posts' English learning site
http://www.bangkokpost.com/learning/...red-on-koh-tao
has a lot of good info , although not current, is a good summation of the various reports. This part caught my eye on a re read and seems to back up CSI LA theory about a knuckle knife...
The team identified the male victim as David William Miller, 24, a British national. He was found naked with a fractured skull and a deep cut to his neck, believed to have been inflicted with a sharp weapon, police said. The body of the female victim, also naked and identified as British national Hannah Victoria Witheridge, 24, was found about 20 metres away.
Police say her face was disfigured and she was probably hit with a heavy object.
Police said they also found thongs, a pair of black trousers, a T-shirt, a pair of underpants and a used condom at the crime scene. Investigators also found traces of a struggle which indicated possible fighting near the murder scene, police said. A bloodstained hoe and a fertiliser sack were found nearby.
Ahh here it is... Of course always keeping in mind the reports could be totally fabricated, or mistranslated.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/nati...-30244163.html
Then there's the most puzzling piece of evidence only made public for the first time on Wednesday by deputy national police chief Pol General Somyot Poompanmoung - a condom found in the area that had Witheridge's DNA on the outside but nothing on the inside.
No real puzzle actually.
The only people who swing their arms like that are homosexuals, as poor coordination seems to be a a symptom of the disorder/disease, other examples are a limp wrist and teapot arm .
For f..k sake blue stop posting
You are a closet homo 4 sure
Dont fight it mate go with the flow
Neither. What do you seriously expect him to say at this stage? As individuals we can comment, speculate, or criticise all we want. As a representative of the UK, he doesn't have that luxury. I keep repeating myself, but seriously wait until there's something definitive and then make comments approaching wise and sage like. There is a world outside Facebook and Twitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by StrangerDear o' dear, somebody is well and truly rattled. I stand by every word I posted. Kent has already commented on this charade of an investigation and said the UK Embassy is satisfied. Now that's PATHETIC!Quote:
Originally Posted by PAGPathetic post. The UK, along with virtually any other country, is not going to comment on an ongoing criminal investigation in another country, in the same way that the UK (and virtually every other country) would not accept external government interference to their judicial process WHEN THERE IS AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stranger
At this stage of the proceedings, I'm certain that all of the UK's diplomatic efforts and information services are being provided to the deceased families, updates of information, likely scenarios etc. Some posters on here seemingly feel more agrieved than the unfortunate families. If there was any complaint about the UK Government's action or lack of, I'm sure that family members would be voiced the same across the Daily Mail/Sun/Mirror etc. Why do you think that hasn't happened?ń
Mark Kent is a career diplomat, not a journalist or foreign TV correspondent What he does publicly, and what he thinks privately are possibly (nay, undoubtably different). As I believe I said in a previous post, wait and see. The UK has it's own system for the verification of circumstances of death of it's nationals, and don't think for one minute that all possible evidence isn't being prepared for these inquests.
Can't quite resist it, but your user name seems to be quite appropriate. Stranger to reality.
Either you're a friend of Kent's and or you also work at the embassy.
As an aside, over the last few years there's been several high profile criminal cases on Phuket involving foreign nationals either as victims or those responsible. Never have I seen a comment from the involved Governments during the investigations. That always comes later.
Kent has publicly stated his satisfaction at the conduct of the police investigation.
In advance of the arrest, in advance of a hearing, in advance of a trial, in advance of a verdict.
This pronouncement of his was made at an organised event to which he was invited celebrating the appointment of the current chief of the RTP last week.
He was not compelled to attend, he chose to. He did not need to give his opinion upon the case but he chose to.
He is an idiot.
In a long line of idiots it seems.
Just been catching up with some of these posts, particularly the one in which it is reported that there are links between the predominant families on the island and the Democrats.
This is a bit like discovering bears shit in the woods.
The Samui Archipelago is a cash cow for Surat Thani and the Democrats, just as Phuket is a Democrat stronghold.
The cronyism inevitably involves local police etc etc. That's how Thailand works. Newin Chidchob runs Buriram, the Kamnan Boh dynasty runs Chonburi and Pattaya.
Sometimes, it really does get a little tedious.
Are there still folk here who actually thought there ever was a democracy?
It's all going to kick of soon!
CSI LA on FB is rousing his troops for an attack.
How long before the Junta shuts the site down?
It happened with the Raoul Moat FB site a few years back in the UK.
This is much larger though and has been left to grow surprisingly!
The UK anti police Raul Moat page was shut down within a week!
Taken from the CSI LA page ...
Are we ready for an attack tomorrow night?
Admin is giving Nomsod and his lawyer 24 hours to bring the proof of the following items.
1) A footage of CCTV from Nomsod's dormitory
2) A footage of CCTV from convenient store
3) A footage of CCTV from Bangkok University
4) Nomsod's exam result.
If they fail to comply with these demands, our fan page will go to crowd-sourced reviews page and give a bad review on his dad businesses.
The deadline is midnight
:spin:
Sorry, can't quite see the comparison here. Raul Moat was a Neanderthal thug who enjoyed the support of a section of the British underclass equally devoid of any redeeming feature whatsoever.
What has his squalid self immolation got to do with this case?
He has nothing to do with the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
What i don't understand is why the CSI LA page is still up and running with so much growing support, maybe the RTP and junta are a tad slow on censoring this. Some parts of the media are trying to discredit the page as a red shirt, anti police/gov rebellion.
Whereas the UK gov could see how quickly the Raoul Moat anti police/ goverment page was growing and had the foresight to shut it down within a week
It was the photos that have kept interest in this case. No one would have understood the brutality without them and it would have disappeared like the "suicide" of another British tourist on Koh Tao last year. I'm glad they were "released."