Thread: All overstayers to be expelled and denied re-entry

This would be funny if it wasn't true...
Several years ago at my local Immigration office. 'The Witch' as we liked to call her, upon checking my bank book, proceeded to bend it back and forth until it stayed open on the relevant page. She then took out a magnifying glass, pencil and 'post it' sticker.
In one hand the pencil and the other hand the glass. Started to tick off the days my money had been in the account!

This same Biatch helps others more unfortunate than myself...
"I can hell you with visa."
"No money, we can give you for 20,000 baht."

What about 'seasoning' the money for 90 days?"

"No ploplem!"

She once said to the wife and I. " I only try hell you."
"You're giving me hell." I replied.

Originally Posted by The Big Fella

What I don't get is the outpouring of hatred and bile over those who overstay How does a person overstaying affect anyone else here ?

I think over-stayers do affect the way foreigners are seen here, but i think hatred is too strong. I do resent people working here illegally and taking the piss out of Immigration who just cough up 20k when they want to go home. Most abide by the rules and get work permits and do 90 day reports and have the right visa and extensions. Why should those that do things properly be tarnished with the same brush as the stupid, the lazy and the could not care less brigade?

For retirees without loads of money surely Southern Europe would be a far better option than Thailand to live in, apart from cost of a property if want to buy one not much difference in cost of living and even then loads of bargains about at the moment in Spain, a more ideal climate, better healthcare and no visa bollox. Obviously if into cheap whoring Spain would be a non starter though.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

For retirees without loads of money surely Southern Europe would be a far better option than Thailand to live in, apart from cost of a property if want to buy one not much difference in cost of living and even then loads of bargains about at the moment in Spain, a more ideal climate, better healthcare and no visa bollox. Obviously if into cheap whoring Spain would be a non starter though.

The hookers are more expensive there though.

Spain? good god man, even Southampton would be preferable. Na it's Thailand or back home for me.

Originally Posted by xanax

Spain? good god man, even Southampton would be preferable. Na it's Thailand or back home for me.

Spain was just an example, Portugal, Greece or Cyprus are also all viable alternatives and would seem to me a much better alternative than Thailand for a retiree who is not coined up unless of course as previously stated whoring is your game, but as always each to their own.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by buriramboy

For retirees without loads of money surely Southern Europe would be a far better option than Thailand to live in, apart from cost of a property if want to buy one not much difference in cost of living and even then loads of bargains about at the moment in Spain, a more ideal climate, better healthcare and no visa bollox. Obviously if into cheap whoring Spain would be a non starter though.

The hookers are more expensive there though.

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Originally Posted by Thormaturge

The visa runners aren't being singled out for any special treatment, I promise you.

Proof please. You keep speculating this without a shread of evidence, or even anything that points to the fact that things might change for legitimate people in Thailand except by pointing to illegals.

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

I work on a daily basis with government employees on international treaties.

You make it sound as if you are the heart beat of Thailand regulations; the main man in the meetings between the US, China, UK, EU, BRICS dealing with Thailand. Sweating the long hours over international treaties, negotiating the tough yards to get Thailand a better deal face to face with the ministers of trade and industries from all over the world. In reality though, rather than being the SAS / Seals / CIA of the finance world, are you actually just working with Merkins trying to cheat their tax back home?

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

I could even point you in the direction of one Revenue Department employee who has been told something has been changed with effect from a month before she was told and she may have to go to prison for breaking a rule that didn't even apply at the time.

Go on then. Point it out for us. This has no relevance unless you do, especially on the back of your fabricated "ohhh they are going to raise the retirement threshold and screw all farangs" scaremongering you've been churning out on this thread.

For the life of me cannot understand why so many sanctimonious ( that word again? lol) seem to get a kick out denigrating others..You got a job ,farm or business well frickin bully....

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

Well not until there is a change in the law, or the manner in which the law is interpreted, which makes you illegal too.

See, I rest my case mate. Nothing has happened has it ?

Legit people will remain legit.

Give it a rest EH.

The so-called "VisaRunners" were legit for more than 20 years, now they're not.

Quit posting shite, hoser.

Originally Posted by The Big Fella

I agree that it isn't that hard to stay here legally but I can't hate someone who chooses not to.

No one hates over stayers and visa runners. However, I have no sympathy for them when they get the boot. They know the rules and chose to take the risk rather than go through the hoops the legally here people have to.

The problem is that the rules are never applied in a consistent and reliable manner. One cannot play by the rules if the rules keep changing and the people applying the rules don't understand what the rules are.

The other site is now reporting that people going to immigration TODAY for extensions of stay and 90 day reporting are signing the following form;



They then are being asked to pinpoint their house/ place of residence on Google Earth where upon their name and case number are recorded as well.

One would hazard a guess that if you don't leave, and don't extend you will get a visit pretty quickly. Best to click the map pointer on a close but different address

People who think the authorities are not going to make it a lot more difficult for people to reside in Thailand on non imm visas in the not too distant future are kidding themselves.

If you are not good value for Thailand, they don't want you.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

For retirees without loads of money surely Southern Europe would be a far better option than Thailand to live in, apart from cost of a property if want to buy one not much difference in cost of living and even then loads of bargains about at the moment in Spain, a more ideal climate, better healthcare and no visa bollox. Obviously if into cheap whoring Spain would be a non starter though.

The comparatives are quite irrelevant.
One has nothing to do with the other.

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

Average wage here about 10-15 k. The monthly tax is about 500bt.

Tax is based on yearly income. Under under B150K would result in no tax being levied. B15,000 per month would command a payment of B900.

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

All foreigners are a good deal for Thailand (financially).

A great percentage of the westerners on retirement visas in Thailand add very little value to the ecomomy, many eaking out a living at near poverty levels due to rising inflation, and being subject to having non-index linked pensions, their presence in Thailand is hardly what would be viewd as being benificial to the country.

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

Originally Posted by pseudolus

One would hazard a guess that if you don't leave, and don't extend you will get a visit pretty quickly.

Most unlikely

Originally Posted by English Noodles

If you are not good value for Thailand, they don't want you.

Every western foreigner - whether visa runners or business owners (and everything inbetween) pay a MINIMUM of 3-4 k a month (over a year) just to be here - whether through visa fees, taxes or whatever.

Average wage here about 10-15 k. The monthly tax is about 500bt.

All foreigners are a good deal for Thailand (financially).

The ubiquitous generation of business and foreign cash flow is extremely valuable for them and the society. Bet they've have a change of heart if such cycling dividends dried up suddenly over a period of time.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Best to click the map pointer on a close but different address

I just hand them my yellow book and proof of income. Claim I'm old and can't see well. Which is believable at a glance. Ask them to help an old man and fill out the form. They do. I sign. Pay 1900 baht. Wife gives them a basket full of nasty 3 in 1 coffee packs and some sort of popular Thai cookies. Bid them farewell with a promise to see them again in a year. They are happy I am happy. Everybody happy, happy.

Not difficult. No drama. No stress.

Been doing this since moby dick was a minnow with various types of Non-Imm visas. Heard all sorts of doom and gloom during all those years. Hair on fire, wailing and gnashing of teeth over how Thailand is out to get us farangs. Hasn't happened.

Hint - Best way to get around the new rule is don't overstay.

Originally Posted by Norton

Hint - Best way to get around the new rule is don't overstay.

Seems to be a bit complicated for some, mate.

Originally Posted by Sumocakewalk

I believe there is supposed to be an average balance of at least 800,000 baht for the past three months at the time of retirement visa renewal application.

Look,

I really have an issue with you guys that consider placing 800K in the bank for Retirement purpose is excessive.

800k equates to 26k AUD.

If you tossers cannot manage to pony up that pissy amount of money after working all your life you need to go drown yourself.

Fuk me, some of you guys need to get a grip EH.