Thread: Suthep threatens to 'shut down' Bangkok afer New Year holidays

I like the irony of this notice

Ah well, King Power was the venue chosen for the Army's Abhisit/Newin "government" - Som Nam Na!

In all I've read today about the pre-final day protest, I haven't seen any estimation of numbers. What were the numbers? Perhaps reporters are scared of saying it wasn't 5 million or 6 million or whatever it is supposed to be.

By the way, 7 million was an estimate of the biggest previous protest that I saw today. I don't do emoticons but you can add your own to that number.

any updated maps with the blockages marked ?

The "revolution" will happen on the evening of the 13th I've just been informed - it's already been agreed apparently.

Will be an interesting thing to see how they create this new "council of wise men" semi-democratic dictatorship (for want of a better term).

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

The "revolution" will happen on the evening of the 13th I've just been informed - it's already been agreed apparently.

Will be an interesting thing to see how they create this new "council of wise men" semi-democratic dictatorship (for want of a better term).

OOh, must be a reliable source. You have real hi-so connection then do you My Lord?

Originally Posted by Bert

The "revolution" will happen on the evening of the 13th I've just been informed - it's already been agreed apparently.

If you actually are correct, that is when it will begin.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

I don't agree with the talk of violence. Real people will really be hurt and really killed - that might be nice for you to watch, but I get no pleasure from it. That's one of the reasons why democracy was developed and is worked with; it attempts to avoid violence and promote discourse, transparency and accountability within the law.

I think Thai will have more to loose with violence, but since we are dealing with people here who are ready to sell their vote for 500 THB and a cheap Chinese iPad, it's possible they will engage into violence without knowing for sure if the alternatives will be any better.

PAD == UDD == food for frustrated clueless voters

Those demonstrations, like the ones in May 2010, have accomplished nothing, only loss of life over silly pretense. How more stupid can you be ? it seems after all that the Issaan peaceful peasants and the Bangkok pretentious and arrogant middle class share the same political stupidity.

In short, they are not so different.

Originally Posted by baldrick

I have a flight that arrives at 5-40am on the 14th and then wish to drive out of bangkok on the 15th with minimal hassle - hopefully the tollways will be passable , though I am worried about the section at Din Daeng where you join the surface and if this is where they intend to set up - if so I will detour out the chaeng wattana tollway

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

OOh, must be a reliable source. You have real hi-so connection then do you My Lord?

Originally Posted by sabang

If you actually are correct, that is when it will begin.

Ok - might be a few options.

1: Army move in late afternoon/early evening on 13th (source - wealthy red shirt good bloke (a little dim - but old) )

2: Army will stay out of it on the 13th, let the punch up happen, and make a decision on the 14th (source - Thai special military forces)

As I see it - we have no clue really what will happen, but my prediction is that Nana, Cowboy and Pat Pong will be open for business as usual whatever happens - by the 15th

Originally Posted by Butterfly

the Issaan peaceful peasants

^ LMFAO! That's a good one!

^oh dear... Stick to your great bike threads, mate.

This is just PADite propaganda; the thread is about Suthep, you could've posted pics of his violent group over the last few months, but no, decided to go with the inane propaganda instead...

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^oh dear... Stick to your great bike threads, mate.

This is just PADite propaganda; the thread is about Suthep, you could've posted pics of his violent group over the last few months, but no, decided to go with the inane propaganda instead...

Dude, I'm not fan of Suthep, he's just as bad as the Thaksin dictatorship IMO, but c'mon, "Isaan Peaceful peasants"??!?

Who's pitching the propaganda???

The reason Thailand can not move forward is because there's not a single politician in this country that is capable of bringing the two sides together and hammering out a peace that both sides can live with.

Until and unless a new breed of politician rises to the top here we can, imo, expect this never ending cycle to continue indefinitely.

^^Good post

^& ^^^

The problem is, gentleman, that just like the Thaksin red herring, this "all politicians are corrupt"" is just another red herring (suthep leading an anti-corruption demo - pleeeeeeassseee....). The reality is that a small group of feudal lords are upset that their massive slice of pie has been diminished, so they're out to stop democratic processes and get the feudal lordships working as before; that's the rub...

Originally Posted by 9999

What I need is a weak Baht. I don't care if they take to the streets in violence to get there. I don't care what happens in BKK either as long as the internet here in the north holds up.

That's your choice. I'd suggest in a country you live in, maybe even bring up children in, that's rather short-sighted.

I do care about violence and death, I remember history, both Thailand's and other local histories such as Cambodia, Malaysia and Burma, because my friends and family live in Thailand, in Bangkok, so I don't want them murdered or the country I live in destroyed.

Enjoy your weak baht...

We don't need a new breed of politician as much as we need a free and fair judiciary, army out of politics and institutions that are free of patronage. Then the new breed of politicians have a space to evolve into.

..... then you are looking at at least 50 years, two generations, educated through a completely reformed education system, before such a breed of politicians, public figures and the electorate understand all about compromise, morals, ethics, compliance, transparency, rights and responsibilities that are all part of a truly democratic society.

until then, thailand, like other 3rd world countries, will be governed by gangsters and have to put up with their corruption, vendettas and violence.

thailand has a long way to go yet. there will be blood !!!

All the shit is going on in Bangkok, you'd not even know is was happening up here, where my family is safe and sound in red shirt heart land.

I prefer to leave Thai politics to the Thais, let the chips fall where they may. My Mrs is Thai and she gives less of a fuck about all this than many falang TD posters. I think you'd actually be surprised at the huge number of Thais who don't take a side and think they're all a bunch of wankers. What we are seeing here is vocal minorities.

It is a shame if it comes to death and destruction, more so if it's innocents in the crossfire. But I have little sympathy for any harm that comes to anyone participating in the protests.

Originally Posted by 9999

I think you'd actually be surprised at the huge number of Thais who don't take a side and think they're all a bunch of wankers. What we are seeing here is vocal minorities.

Spot on

Originally Posted by 9999

you'd actually be surprised at the huge number of Thais who don't take a side

A lot, I know; I'd guestimate at maybe 50% of voting age Thais. I doubt if any country ever has had 100%, 80% or even 60% political involvement from the populous. But, every nation has politics and political movement.

Originally Posted by taxexile

you need treatment

A spa perhaps? Sounds very nice.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

I'd guestimate at maybe 50% of voting age Thais.

I'd put it at more like 5-10% that are really passionate about either side. maybe 50% despise the lot of them yes, that would leave about 42.5% of the voting age public wandering around in a haze. Sounds about right.

Originally Posted by 9999

I'd put it at more like 5-10% that are really passionate about either side. maybe 50% despise the lot of them yes, that would leave about 42.5% of the voting age public wandering around in a haze.

Not sure about that... 5-10% hardcore, perhaps. but you have a lot of the Bkk, south and NE, etc, who do care; maybe an additional 40% (or more) of the population (voting public).

In the areas I've lived in bkk, a very high % (well over 50%) are red shirt supporters and care a lot about politics.