Thread: More Visa Scares

nothing to worry about, plenty of more hospitable neighbouring countries, where the booze&hos are cheaper too .. maybe no Paragons or lofty skytrains but ..

come Jan 2007 when the poor blokes have all cleared out, we might start hearing of some thai schools, thai parents, thai lessors and many other thais squeel ... not that i give a sh!t

imnsho them dump phack backpacking loosers no goods mofos did, in the end contributed to fill quite a few rice bowls that in turn nourished many of them slanteyed bellies

It also puts a damper on the syndicates, who transfer money for visa purposes to each other accounts.

Trying to imagine what a *slanteyed belly* looks like...

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

Originally Posted by Old Codger

I dont see any further problems arising even if every word of it is true.

The checks on the bank account balance are a bit cheeky though and that might mess up a few folks who wired in the money and wire it out again a few days later. Som nam nah though.

no it's not som nom na...It's probably depriving them of income invested overseas that does much better there than a poxy Thai bank account.It's could also be seen as depriving the family that they are looking after of income.

The 400,000 in the bank gets you the visa. That is the cost of that that visa.
If you have to borrow that money off parents or a credit card cash advance or whatever and then send the money out of Thailand then you are cheating the visa rules.

If you dont have 400,000 baht to leave in a Thai bank account then dont get married and dont expect a visa either.

Monthly income from 400,000 baht invest overseas amounts to what???

3500 baht tops? its definatley som nam nah in my book

consultant.. advisor... analyst
why not Entertainment Specialist (aka as English teacher)
or Boiler Room Engineer.. (we all know about this one)
or Puericulturist (same same as in kiddie fiddler)
...
gawd I just can see all these new job tittles finding their way onto the immi form

^That is very simplistic.

You don't get my point.If somebody has 400k in an overseas account getting very high interest rates, they are forced to bring it back and invest at very low interest rates.It's not som nom fucking na, it's theft.

I'm not talking about the pricks that abuse the system either.

^ From a Thai goverment point of view and a Thai mentality point of view the 400,000 is in the account to be spent here.
Thats why we are here, to spend money. Not becuase of our offshore banking and investment skills.
The whole visa shake up is about flushing out those cheap-skates that dont want to, or cant satisfy the immigration rules for visa entitlement.
How can you claim that if you have a visa that requires 400,000 in a Thai bank you are being stolen from just because the interest rate here is low?
If folks want to keep the 400,000 overseas then they might not be able to get the marriage visa, that seems fair enough to me.
I go back to the UK every 15 months to get a new multi entry. that trip costs about 60,000 baht which is a hell of a lot more than lost interest on 400,000 in the bank.

Anyhows, the nooze is getting tighter, I might be posting from Cambodia or the Philippines once my present tourist visa runs out...

Boohooooo....

Originally Posted by stroller

Anyhows, the nooze is getting tighter, I might be posting from Cambodia or the Philippines once my present tourist visa runs out...

Boohooooo....

nuttin to fret abot mein herr, we'z all in the same fucking boat, even the ones that think they are not... thailand the hub of moving goal posts not that i care

anyway PH, Cambo, Malay are all doable.. as mentioned, one year of disconfort learning the ropes of the new cun.try (nice one Diaw) and we'z all in like flyn again

But i just bought a house and I like it here.

Originally Posted by Old Codger

^ From a Thai goverment point of view and a Thai mentality point of view the 400,000 is in the account to be spent here.
Thats why we are here, to spend money. Not becuase of our offshore banking and investment skills.
The whole visa shake up is about flushing out those cheap-skates that dont want to, or cant satisfy the immigration rules for visa entitlement.
How can you claim that if you have a visa that requires 400,000 in a Thai bank you are being stolen from just because the interest rate here is low?
If folks want to keep the 400,000 overseas then they might not be able to get the marriage visa, that seems fair enough to me.
I go back to the UK every 15 months to get a new multi entry. that trip costs about 60,000 baht which is a hell of a lot more than lost interest on 400,000 in the bank.

Just withdraw the money slowly and gradually every month as they want you to, send it back to overseas, make a transfer at the right time next year, and view it as visa money. You lose a bit every time you transfer it over, but it's not a lot. Most investments overseas would be taxed or involve a certain amount of risk anyway.

Of course it would be nicer to have the money working for you in a better investement, but it's not going to make you a lot anyway.. the sum is too small. You'll just have to see to it that you have investment money on top of your 400 000.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

But i just bought a house and I like it here.

on both counts ya aint the only one, but there are limits to how much one is willing to bend over to accomodate.

What's next? .. an davidic starred arm band or an immi barcode tat on our wrists, to facilitate immi processing say for the disgraceful 90 day reporting shite or why not a paltry 19,000 baht fee for a fucking two bits triangular blue stamp in me passport or whatever! Whities are all rich ...anyway

fuck'em I say, I'm in the process of movin to better shores meself, it will take a while since I've been here fifteen years, but ... I will move out hopefully by next year, maybe not all the way out but at least not spend the whole year here

Under the new rules what you seem to need is income/pension of 40k per month only. The 400k deposit may no longer be accepted

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

Under the new rules what you seem to need is income/pension of 40k per month only. The 400k deposit may no longer be accepted

in a masochistic way, being of a very lazy disposition, I really hope they make it very difficult for me to stay on here, it motivates me to move out at a much faster pace

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

But i just bought a house and I like it here.

Pack up and head to Welshland.

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

Under the new rules what you seem to need is income/pension of 40k per month only. The 400k deposit may no longer be accepted

And of course, if you show an 'income' of 40K from overseas, they may decide to tax you on that as well...

Originally Posted by Gerbil

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

Under the new rules what you seem to need is income/pension of 40k per month only. The 400k deposit may no longer be accepted

And of course, if you show an 'income' of 40K from overseas, they may decide to tax you on that as well...

Smart lad..

Thailand has double taxation agreements with many countries.
But "income" rather than money in the bank? -*##^*, so savings don't count for nothin?

Originally Posted by in4zip

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

Under the new rules what you seem to need is income/pension of 40k per month only. The 400k deposit may no longer be accepted

in a masochistic way, being of a very lazy disposition, I really hope they make it very difficult for me to stay on here, it motivates me to move out at a much faster pace

I'm afraid to say that is exactly the same way I'm starting to see things. Looking at my accounts today I noticed that I have paid over 600k in taxes year to-date (and we still have 3 more months to go - including 1 more bonus month).

Fuck them. Me and my money will go elsewhere.

Originally Posted by RandomChances

Apparently they have changed the rules on the marrage extention now as well. The old 400,000 bhat in the bank is no longer aplicable for new aplicants (after Oct 1st) You OR you wife need to show an income of a minimun of 40,000 bhat a month.

Last year and again this year I was advised by immigration in bangkok that I needed 45,000 bhat a month income and 400,000 in the bank in order to qualify for a type "O" visa.

Originally Posted by Old Codger

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

Originally Posted by Old Codger

I dont see any further problems arising even if every word of it is true.

The checks on the bank account balance are a bit cheeky though and that might mess up a few folks who wired in the money and wire it out again a few days later. Som nam nah though.

no it's not som nom na...It's probably depriving them of income invested overseas that does much better there than a poxy Thai bank account.It's could also be seen as depriving the family that they are looking after of income.

The 400,000 in the bank gets you the visa. That is the cost of that that visa.
If you have to borrow that money off parents or a credit card cash advance or whatever and then send the money out of Thailand then you are cheating the visa rules.

If you dont have 400,000 baht to leave in a Thai bank account then dont get married and dont expect a visa either.

Monthly income from 400,000 baht invest overseas amounts to what???

3500 baht tops? its definatley som nam nah in my book

Is it ok to have the money in a joint account (and/or type)? That is what the wife and I have for her benefit for when the end comes for me. Is that alright with immigration or must the account be in my name only?

Last year and again this year I was advised by immigration in bangkok that I needed 45,000 bhat a month income and 400,000 in the bank in order to qualify for a type "O" visa.[/quote]

Strange was that for a marrage extention.


Yes, to get a l year extension of o type visa.

Originally Posted by Macha

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

But i just bought a house and I like it here.

Pack up and head to Welshland.

i've been trying to identify the country in your avitar for a while now.

got it now