More Thai Visa information

**Thetyim** · 03-09-2006, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Not if you got a multi. or double, or treble if they still do them.

If you have a double entry , immigration draw a number one in a circle to show that your first entry visa has been used up.
Not sure what they do with multiple entry

**Spin** · 03-09-2006, 11:10 PM

The term "visa on arrival" is the same as "visa waiver" which is a bit confusing to say the least.

**Thetyim** · 03-09-2006, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Many nationalities are issued a 30 day visa on arrival

You do not get a visa on arrival you get a 'permission to stay'
it is not a visa.

**Butterfly** · 03-09-2006, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by RDN

TM7 - 1900 baht.

Finally a concrete answer. So I ask for TM7 to get my 1 year extension entry on my non-immigrant O within the first 3 months of my initial stay. Correct ?

Once I have the 1 year stay extension, I will still need to report to the police every 3 months, correct ? how flexible is that ? what if you miss or don't go ?

**RDN** · 03-09-2006, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by Old Codger

The term "visa on arrival" is the same as "visa waiver" which is a bit confusing to say the least.

Totally wrong. Please look here: Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Kingdom of Thailand : : Visas & Travel Document

**Thetyim** · 03-09-2006, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Finally a concrete answer. So I ask for TM7 to get my 1 year extension entry on my non-immigrant O within the first 3 months of my initial stay. Correct ? Once I have the 1 year stay extension, I will still need to report to the police every 3 months, correct ? how flexible is that ? what if you miss or don't go ?

You can apply for your extension up to 30 days before your permission to stay expires. Your first extension will be for 9 months only.

The 90 day report I do by post and is very easy.
You can only be late by seven days or you get fined.

**RDN** · 03-09-2006, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by RDN

TM7 - 1900 baht.

Finally a concrete answer. So I ask for TM7 to get my 1 year extension entry on my non-immigrant O within the first 3 months of my initial stay. Correct ?

Yes, the TM7 is for one year extensions, but I don't know enough about your circumstances to comment on whether you qualify. But you could do worse than go to talk to them at Soi Suan Phlu and explain your circumstances.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Once I have the 1 year stay extension, I will still need to report to the police every 3 months, correct ? how flexible is that ? what if you miss or don't go ?

Yes, you should report every 90 days, plus or minus 7 days - but to immigration, not the police. I always try to go early. (In theory, for people living in the sticks far from an immigration office, you should be able to report to the police. But I don't know of anyone who has managed to do that. You can also send your 90 day notification by post to immigration but, again, I have never done that, but I have heard of others that have without problems.)

If you miss a report or don't go AND you get caught, you will will have to pay a fine which is I believe currently 2,000 baht. If you manage to leave the country without anyone at the airport noticing that you haven't reported, then you may avoid the fine - just come back in again and the 90 day clock starts again.

But you must get a re-entry permit to enable your one-year extension to continue. Otherwise, that is cancelled and you have to start again.

Edit:

Thetyim says it much more succinctly!

**Butterfly** · 04-09-2006, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by RDN

re-entry permit

There is a "re-entry permit" booth at the Airport, now I know why it's there. How long does it take to have it ? or can you go to any immigration office to get it ?

**Thetyim** · 04-09-2006, 12:02 AM

Butterfly, I'm off to bed now.

If I get time I will PM you tommorrow with a couple of tips on getting your extension

**Thetyim** · 04-09-2006, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

or can you go to any immigration office to get it ?

You can go to any immigration office,
It takes about 15 minutes

**RDN** · 04-09-2006, 12:07 AM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by RDN

re-entry permit

There is a "re-entry permit" booth at the Airport, now I know why it's there. How long does it take to have it ? or can you go to any immigration office to get it ?

I should think it takes just minutes. My multiple re-entry permit took a few minutes because a girl in the immigration office filled in the form for me, but at the airport I should think they would be quicker.

But I would get it at immigration if I were you - what happens if the airport booth is shut when you go? Best to get it sorted early at immigration. You can get it at any time.

**RDN** · 04-09-2006, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by Thetyim

Originally Posted by Butterfly

or can you go to any immigration office to get it ?

You can go to any immigration office,
It takes about 15 minutes

I thought you were going to bed?

**dirtydog** · 04-09-2006, 12:22 AM

Forms and details of everything here.
https://teakdoor.com/thai-visas-and-v...hich-visa.html

**squig** · 04-09-2006, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by RDN

Originally Posted by Thetyim

Originally Posted by Butterfly

or can you go to any immigration office to get it ?

You can go to any immigration office,
It takes about 15 minutes

I thought you were going to bed?

Ssssshhhh.... can I say my peace RDN? So there I was just minding my own business - coming back after a weekend in Singapore - since the Thai red tape had screwed me around once again, I thought I'd better leave the country on a "real" visa run while trying to process my legit visa application - and next thing I know the airline is grilling me to the point where am wondering who will water my plants at home before they die a slow and lonely death. Who are you? When are you leaivng Thailand? Why don't you have an outward ticket? When are you leaving? Why are you going back there? All this after living in LOS for just over a year after 3 yrs on a work permit.... what the??? After finally re-entering LOS - mai pben rai - stamped in as usual - but the stress, the stress - at the other end!!

**hunter** · 04-09-2006, 06:33 AM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Many nationalities are issued a 30 day visa on arrival

just to confuse things a bit more

some are even getting 90 days on arrival, the Kiwis come to mind on that one

Kiwi's get 30 days only on arrival into Thailand. The 90 day stays for them was cut out several years ago. NZ used to permit Thai's a 90 day visa free
stay, but cancelled the arrangement and Thailand partly evened up giving
only 30 day stays.

**Thetyim** · 07-09-2006, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by NickA

I went to Kap Choeng to get and extension to my tourist visa a few years back

And you were unsuccessful because you cannot extend a visa

You might have extended your 'Permission to Stay ' though

**buadhai** · 07-09-2006, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by Thetyim

And you were unsuccessful because you cannot extend a visa

Some would call us pedantic, but I have to agree that this is a distinction with a difference....

**NickA** · 08-09-2006, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by Thetyim

And you were unsuccessful because you cannot extend a visa You might have extended your 'Permission to Stay ' though

Go tell wikipedia!!!

**Thetyim** · 08-09-2006, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by NickA

Go tell wikipedia!!!

Thank you NickA
From Wikipedia :
"Visas are associated with the request for permission to enter a country, and are thus, for some countries, distinct from actual formal permission for an alien to enter and remain in the country."

**NickA** · 09-09-2006, 10:00 AM

^^again from Wikipedia...

Extending a Visa

Visa Run example

Many countries have a mechanism to allow the holder of a visa to apply to stay longer in that country. For example, in Denmark a visa holder can apply to the Danish Immigration Service for a Residence Permit after they have arrived in the Country. In the United Kingdom applications can be made to the Immigration and Nationality Directorate. In certain circumstances, it is not possible for the holder of the visa to do this, either because the Country does not have a mechanism to prolong visas or, most likely, because the holder of the visa is using a short stay visa to live in a country. In such cases, the holder often engages in what is known as a visa run; leaving the country for a short period in order to apply for a new visa prior to their return or so that they can be given a fresh permission to stay when they re-enter.

I'm not arguing with you about whether you are right or wrog Thetyim, dear friend, because we both know you are right. all I'm saying is that it is common usage to say "extending a visa" rather then "extending permission to stay". Everyone I know uses the first expression and nobody the second and so the first is understood to mean the second, if you know what I mean

**buadhai** · 09-09-2006, 03:12 PM

Well NickA, the problem is that the imprecise terminology can result in problems. For example, I made a needless trip to Bangkok to "renew my visa" because my visa had expired. Of course, the trip was a huge waste of time because you can't renew a visa. On that trip I was also unable to "extend my stay" because my "stay" wouldn't expire for another nine months.

I've also heard of guys who have "extended their stay" thinking they have extended their visa. The leave the country thinking their visa is still valid (why not, they "extended" it); only to re-enter and get nothing more than a 30 day entry stamp. Why? No visa. No re-entry permit. Time to start all over....

So, although I agree that while "extending a visa" has become common parlance, sites like this one that purport to extend accurate information ought not use it.

**lom** · 09-09-2006, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by buadhai

So, although I agree that while "extending a visa" has become common parlance, sites like this one that purport to extend accurate information ought not use it.

I fully agree with you and Thetyim.

I've meet people here who think they are here on a 30 day visa, some of them even believes that it is a 30 day "Tourist visa" when all they got is the allowance to enter and stay for 30 days without visa.
One guy even claimed that this was a 30 day "visa-on-arrival".

So lets stop the confusion by telling things for what they are.

**NickA** · 09-09-2006, 09:05 PM

^Well, if you want to start a fight for correctness get on over to Wikipedia and change that paragraph and if anyone's got enough time perhaps a glosary of correct visa terminology would put us ahead of the competition

**Butterfly** · 09-09-2006, 10:28 PM

Well before that other thread on VISA, I could never tell the difference. Now I understand that difference. It was explained nicely and simply.

**RDN** · 10-09-2006, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by NickA

^Well, if you want to start a fight for correctness get on over to Wikipedia and change that paragraph and if anyone's got enough time perhaps a glosary of correct visa terminology would put us ahead of the competition

Link please, I'll do it!

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