Thread: The Holocaust

Originally Posted by raycarey

dismiss ahemdinejad at your own risk....he's a savvy politician, popular on the arab street, and (apparently) a true believer.

Yeah?
So was Charlie Manson when he cut up Sharon Tate...

A million+ fucking Armenians got slaughtered by the Turks 100 years ago. Why don't we have an arse kicking nuclear armed we'll fokcing kill you while the US cheers Armenian state?

The concept of Zionism is the problem.

^did they gas children and women in ovens too?

I don't think they were trying to hide what they were doing, there were some heads on spikes and stuff.

I mean, it's all wrong, but the Nazi holocaust was a notch above in its systematic depravity and cunning.

Frequently Asked Questions about the Armenian Genocide

Originally Posted by RandomChances

I think MD is refering to the Ottomans, probaly more like 200 years ago now.

Early last century.
There are photos of seperated heads displayed.

Originally Posted by stroller

Early last century.
There are photos of seperated heads displayed.

Yea I was thinking of an earlier one, the Otomans were actually doing it for age's I might of been confused with the Albainions.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

In any case, the Old Europe is responsible for the Hollocaust, not only Germany. It was so easy and conforting to ignore what was really happening.

I don't think the Japanese killed millions in their death camps ? or did they ?

Of course, the "palme d'or" for killing Jews and other minorities come to Stalin, but again, this is barely mentionned, maybe because evidence are insufficient or he didn't get caught red handed like Hitler and his friends. Also because the allies didn't defeat Stalin, so it would be pointless to demonize him for what he did.

The Japanese killed around 30 million. But we never hear about this because the Japanese didn't use ovens and make lampshades and purses from their skin (and of course we needed an ally against Russian expansion in Asia).

^And for that reason I believe that the "Yellow peril" are exactly that.Arseholes.They are prolly the most racist pricks in the world.

Their chick are nice though....

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

^And for that reason I believe that the "Yellow peril" are exactly that.Arseholes.They are prolly the most racist pricks in the world.

They are the Germans of Asia, except Germany has evolved and became a different country since WW2. Japan didn't. Still same racist mentality.

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

Their chick are nice though...

Overated, but Nippon porn is fun to watch though.

Originally Posted by surasak

But we never hear about this because the Japanese didn't use ovens and make lampshades and purses from their skin

Yeah, the Japs did valuable research on live humans, freezing limbs, inoculateing them with pests etc., well- valuable enough for the US to not prosecute in exchange for the "scientific" data being handed over.
Prominent Nazi scientists were also helped to escape to contribute their expertise in the US, namely by a certain Mr. Bush.

Yep, one of those selfless liberating police actions that was.

Hi 666!

Originally Posted by 666

I know that this topic was discussed in a different thread.

More like a different forum!

Originally Posted by 666

But recently I've been curious as to the recent discussions about the numbers of casualties, and/or those who claimed it was exagerrated or was a haox.

I have no opinion, as I haven't researched the topic of the Holocaust more than other historical events.


Therefore, I shall let others begin discussion on this topic, and attempt to learn some things, check links and books, and ask further questions.


Thank you, and over to you.....

No, over to you!

I don't have strong opinions one way or the other about Jews or Israel, but I find the growing acceptance of the idea that the holocaust either didn't happen or was exaggerated, really disturbing.

And comparing it to other atrocities in recent or not so recent history, doesn't excuse it.

Germany and the rest of Europe are and were then civilised cultures, not uneducated or like the Japanese insular and from a recent history of warlords and brutality.

Originally Posted by Lily

I find the growing acceptance of the idea that the holocaust either didn't happen or was exaggerated, really disturbing.

As the generation of survivors and witnesses is literally dying, there are more clueless racist thugs and unrelenting Neo-Nazis attempting to re-write history.
One may argue about the exact numbers, but millions it was, it's well established.

Meanwhile we had Bosnia, Rwanda, now Darfur, eventually Iraq...

which proves again that we don't learn anything from History.

I think you forgot Vietnam which was the systematic abuses of civilians by the US army and the VietCongs

Vietnam had nothing to do with genocide or any holocaust.

there was a systematic killing of civilians but yeah no camp.

But Cambodia is another example.

I don't think Iraq qualify.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

I think you forgot Vietnam which was the systematic abuses of civilians by the US army and the VietCongs

And by the NVA, ARVN, French, and Chinese....

^Yes,let's not forget the French....

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

^Yes,let's not forget the French....

I'm off topic of the thread here, but the French were very, very, brutal to the Vietnamese.

An interesting article by a Saudi:

Confronting Holocaust Denial
Western and Christian charities in the third world should take it upon themselves to inform Muslims and non-Muslims alike, in the areas where they are active, about the Holocaust.
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Growing up as a child in Saudi Arabia, I remember my teachers, my mom and our neighbors telling us practically on a daily basis that Jews were evil, the sworn enemies of Muslims who's only goal was to destroy Islam. We were never informed about the Holocaust.

Hirsi Ali Takes on Tehran: Confronting Holocaust Denial - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News