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    US Hunt for Bin Laden in Afghanistan

    Here is an interesting take from one of the Delta Force guys involved. I'll post the entire youtube video of the interview when I find it.

    Elite Officer Recalls Bin Laden Hunt

    Delta Force Commander Says The Best Plan To Kill The Al Qaeda Leader In 2001 Was Nixed


    (CBS) Shortly after 9/11, the Pentagon ordered a top secret team of American commandos into Afghanistan with a single, simple order: kill Osama bin Laden. It was America's best chance to eliminate the leader of al Qaeda. The inside story of exactly what happened in that mission, and how close it came to its objective has never been told until now.

    The man you are about to meet was the officer in command, leading a team from the U.S. Army's mysterious Delta Force - a unit so secret, it's often said Delta doesn't exist. But you are about to see Delta's operators in action.

    Why would the mission commander break his silence after seven years? He told 60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley that most everything he has read in the media about his mission is wrong and now he wants to set the record straight.

    ....In 2001, just 10 weeks after 9/11, he was a 37-year-old Army major leading a team of America's most elite commandos. Even now, 60 Minutes can't tell you his name or show you his face. 60 Minutes hired a theatrical make up artist to take this former Delta officer through a series of transformations to disguise him. He calls himself "Dalton Fury," and is the author of "Kill Bin Laden," a new book out this week.
    Link & Entire: Elite Officer Recalls Bin Laden Hunt, Delta Force Commander Says The Best Plan To Kill The Al Qaeda Leader In 2001 Was Nixed - CBS News

    Here's a brief Youtube of the 60 Minutes interview.

    I am searching now, for the full interview and will post it when I find it.

    ............

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    "He calls himself "Dalton Fury," and is the author of "Kill Bin Laden," a new book out this week."

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    ^, Thats correct, and everything in the book is top secret so if anyone ever verifies anything then "Dalton Fury" will have to kill them on the spot.
    So you will just have to believe everything in the book as fact without any "LINKS" that most people on here require.

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    Bush had no plan to catch Bin Laden

    WASHINGTON - New evidence from former United States officials reveals that Osama bin Laden and other al-Qaeda leaders were able to skip Afghanistan for Pakistan unimpeded in the first weeks after September 11, 2001, as the George W Bush administration failed to plan to block their retreat.

    Top administration officials instead gave priority to planning for war with Iraq, leaving the United States with not nearly enough troops or strategic airlift capacity to close the large number of possible exit routes through the Afghanistan-Pakistan border area where Bin Laden escaped in late 2001.

    Because it had not been directed to plan for that contingency, the US military was also forced to turn down an offer from then Pakistani president Pervez Musharraf in late November 2001 to send 60,000 troops to intercept the al-Qaeda leaders.

    As Northern Alliance troops marched on Kabul with little resistance in November 2001, the Central Intelligence Agency had intelligence that Bin Laden was headed for a cave complex in the Tora Bora Mountains close to the Pakistani border.

    The war had ended only days earlier, much more quickly than expected, and United States Central Command (CENTCOM) commander Tommy Franks, responsible for the war in Afghanistan, had no forces in position to block bin Laden's exit.


    ...The views of Bush's key advisers, however, ruled out any such plan from the start. During the summer of 2001 Rumsfeld refused to develop contingency plans for military action against al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, despite a National Security Presidential Directive that called for such planning, according to the 9-11 Commission report.

    Rumsfeld and deputy defense secretary Paul Wolfowitz resisted such planning for Afghanistan because they were hoping that the White House would move quickly on military intervention in Iraq. According to the 9-11 Commission, at four deputies' meetings on Iraq between May 31 and July 26, 2001, Wolfowitz pushed his idea to have US troops seize all the oil fields in southern Iraq.

    Even after September 11, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Vice President Dick Cheney continued to resist any military engagement in Afghanistan, because they were hoping for war against Iraq instead.

    Bush's top secret order of September 17 for war with Afghanistan also directed the Pentagon to begin planning for an invasion of Iraq, according to journalist James Bamford's book Pretext for War.

    Cheney and Rumsfeld pushed for a quick victory in Afghanistan in NSC meetings in October, as recounted by both Woodward and Undersecretary of Defense Douglas Feith. Lost in the eagerness to wrap up the Taliban and get on with the Iraq War was any possibility of preventing Bin Laden's escape to Pakistan.

    Full Article- Asia Times Online :: South Asia news, business and economy from India and Pakistan

    I think most people have realised this already- it was not a high priority of the Bush administration to capture Bin Laden, neither was it their first priority to destroy AQ & the Taliban. They wanted to achieve a quick, cosmetic overthrow of the Afghan Talibani government, then press on with their real geostrategic priority- Iraqi Oil.

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    interesting. the USA effectively missed osama because we were so fixated on iraq.

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    Nothing so really unusual about that,, Just like some folks on here so busy bad mouthing Bush and the USA in general and throwing flamables on the fire that they can't see or cover up things that are being done by other countrys that are as bad or worse.
    Do ya see what I mean there Sabangy??

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    can't see or cover up things that are being done by other countrys that are as bad or worse.
    Sometimes ya get fixated on one thing, and miss another. That can happen.

    We'll see what reasons, if any, will be given for the failure to finish the job with AQ & the Tali's before tilting at Iraq, but you know my view- I reckon it was a horrible blunder.

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    Osama is a CIA friend, why would they want to catch him ? without 911 Bush would have been kicked out of office within one year, and the NeoCons couldn't go along with their funny plan of invading Iraq without a clown taking all the hits,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    ...U.S. Army's mysterious Delta Force - a unit so secret, it's often said Delta doesn't exist...
    Mysterious and secretive my arse! They're merely in hiding because when Chuck Norris was making his documentary film Delta Force they were afraid that they couldn't live up to his expectations and he'd roundhouse kick them.

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    Even after September 11, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Vice President Dick Cheney continued to resist any military engagement in Afghanistan, because they were hoping for war against Iraq instead.
    They never wanted to get Bin Laden, IMO.

    It's better for the US neo-cons to have the bogey man out there. He can hurt you.

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    You're starting to get it now Milky ...

    You think North Korea posed much of a threat all these years?

    Don't kid yourself.

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    If it's such an imminent and pervasive threat, why is the US using only around 20 percent of it's military capability in combating it?

    It's all about perspective.

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    Well, he is in Pakistan and soon the new U.S president is gonna get valuable intelligence that he is there and bomb those tribes.

    I don't know which location is Osama gonna choose after Pakistan??

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    Why doesn't Pakistan get him if they know where he is?
    Why doesn't Britain send Harold after him? They have the best intel in the world, just ask them.

    Golly, either could really show the US up and strut around for a few decades like bmoc.

    Let's see it Macha. Where's that valuable intel?

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    Why doesn't Pakistan get him if they know where he is?
    Because we love him and are willing to sacrifice our lives for him.

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    Yeah, I saw the party they held for him at the Islamabad Marriott two weeks ago. Quite a blow out.

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    But isn't that what the common American believes to be true about Pakis now??

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    Sure, Macha... whatever.

    You're falling in line with the TD penchant for describing the common American.

    Keep swinging. You're bound to hit the ball sooner or later.

    I suggest starting in very general terms -- like they all breathe and they all have two eyes.

    Beyond that you start down a slippery slope. Just ask the 2.5 million Muslims living in the US.

    Pakistani enclaves in the US are in many ways different from their counterparts in Britain that have proved to be breeding grounds for terrorists.
    Pakistanis Find U.S. an Easier Fit Than Britain - New York Times
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    You're falling in line with the TD penchant for describing the common American.
    I just asked. What is wrong Taxi.......isn't that what your gonna be leaders are feeding you all through the media??

    WASHINGTON / NEW YORK, Oct 3: For Democratic vice presidential candidate Joseph Biden, Pakistan is the most dangerous country in the world, with nuclear weapons that can hit Israel and the Mediterranean.

    “Pakistan already has nuclear weapons. Pakistan already has deployed nuclear weapons. Pakistan’s weapons can already hit Israel and the Mediterranean.”

    “I promise you, if an attack comes in the homeland, it’s going to come as our security services have said, it is going to come from Al Qaeda planning in the hills of Afghanistan and Pakistan,” he said.


    Biden, Palin at one on Pakistan ‘danger’ -DAWN - Top Stories; October 04, 2008
    See what I mean Taxi?? and what is all the bullshit about Pakistan being a threat to Israel?? Why are the Leaders of the U.S worried about Israel??
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    Another thing that keeps me wondering, Osama Bin Laden has been on the run and hiding for 8 years now and still some how manages to plan organized attacks on U.S soldiers inside Afghanistan from the hills of Pakistan or some shit like that.......

    All this hiding, running, planning and attacking needs money. Where does he get all that money from?? Why isn't there any action against his financers??...... I mean wars cost money. Don't they??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    You're starting to get it now Milky ...

    You think North Korea posed much of a threat all these years?

    Don't kid yourself.
    We're off-topic, but here's my answer on North Korea.

    North Korea was never a threat to the US. North Korea IMO, was never a threat to Japan or South Korea.

    Why? Because as eccentric and repressive as Kim Jong Il is, he isn't stupid enough to lose his power, and have his country battered.

    As for catching Osama Bin Laden, the US can further achieve its objectives by having him alive and out there.

    I have watched interviews of other Special Ops forces involved during and around the time of the Tora Bora assault. (I'll try to find the link.)

    I am being sincere. I am not trying to conjure up "theories." We had "Remember the Main," which was a lie and resulted in territorial gains for the US. Pearl Harbor was not a surprise. Gulf of Tonkin was fabricated. WMD in Iraq, fabricated.

    Remember Herman Goering's quote at the Nuremberg trials.

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    Back on Topic:

    Here is 9:20 of the original youtube. I am looking for the last parts and will post it.

    Here it is:


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