Thread: Hamas Attack, breakout from Gaza many rockets fired

Originally Posted by Troy

The airstrike on a hospital just reported, with around 500 killed, is also a little ott.

No surprise, you are the first to post this unsubstantiated press release from the Palestinian authority.

The terrorists of Islamic Jihad wanted to do a Hamas and kill Israeli civilians... but the missile they fired misfired and hit a hospital in Gaza. Not that the truth will matter of the deluded Palestinians and their cretinous supporters in the West.

https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1714383563217395944

See, there it is.

Originally Posted by Norton

See, there it is.

Funny, I do not recall your fervor in pointing out the countless times the ruzzians bombed hospitals in Syria and Ukraine. The hypocrisy of the snivelling Palestinian apologists is earth-shattering.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Funny, I do not recall your fervor in pointing out the countless times the ruzzians bombed hospitals in Syria and Ukraine. The hypocrisy of the snivelling Palestinian apologists is earth-shattering.

Having seen first hand so many civilian bodies and smelled the decomposition, I abhore any military organization who intentionally targets civilians.

Slight correction. Was not Hamas rocket misfire according to Isreali's. Was Islamic Jihad.

Originally Posted by Norton

Having seen first hand so many civilian bodies and smelled the decomposition, I abhore any military organization who intentionally targets civilians.

Green owed

Per the UN, 5600 casualties were reported in the first 6 months of the entire Ukraine war. Just a moment...

The death toll in Gaza since the start is about 1800. If we add 500 to that, its 2300. Which is approaching half of all the casualties of 6 months of the Ukraine war. This is in under 2 weeks of fighting
Fact Sheet: Israel and Palestine Conflict (October 2023)

Originally Posted by Norton

Slight correction. Was not Hamas rocket misfire according to Isreali's. Was Islamic Jihad.

Palestinian Islamic Jihad militants apparently.

I'm surprised they can muster a pipe bomb about now.

Originally Posted by pickel

We're supposed to believe an errant missile fired from Gaza did it?

Yes we are Pic...However stayed tuned. The truth is evolving.

Originally Posted by pickel

We're supposed to believe an errant missile fired from Gaza did it?

there seems to be geo located video of the launch and subsequent fallout online and it fell into the carpark - the casualty figures may be revised down to 15 soon

Now it has been geoconfirmed that the rocket that hit the hospital was launched from inside Gaza. This source does excellent work, but some blinkered clowns on here will continue to push the lies of HAMAS.

GeoConfirmed ISR-PAL. A missile launched by Palestinian Groups exploded mid-air and one of the pieces fell on the Al-Ahli Arab Hospital's yard. 31.504822, 34.46169 Before reacting READ our thread. https://twitter.com/yousuf_tw/status...67757968384106 1/X

https://twitter.com/GeoConfirmed/sta...90254935851272

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Originally Posted by pickel

We're supposed to believe an errant missile fired from Gaza did it? The same kind of missile that does very little relevant damage when they land in Israel, but can level a hospital that by coincidence happens to be the most densely populated place in the Gaza strip. And just ignore Israels previous targeting of hospitals, ambulances, schools, border crossings?

Fuck no, not me. That bullshit even outperforms Russia's.

It's collective punishment.

An astute observation. And yes, also a war crime.

Originally Posted by bsnub

No surprise, you are the first to post this unsubstantiated press release from the Palestinian authority.

It was quoted from the BBC last night as was the strike in South Gaza but unable to link due to mobile phone.

As we've been reporting, the Israeli military has denied Hamas's claims that it was behind the explosion, instead saying it was a rocket fired by the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, a Gaza-based militant group, that fell short. The group has also denied responsibility.

Israel Gaza live news: Hundreds feared dead in Gaza hospital blast as Biden heads for Israel visit - BBC News

Still no confirmed update on who was responsible.

Gaza hospital blast: Whatever happened, the fog of war tells us that it'''s not what we think right now

“I’m not saying it’s impossible that Israel could have had a missile or smart bomb go wrong and strike a civilian hospital, but it is highly unlikely with the Biden visit less than 24 hours away. It is far more likely that Hamas or Islamic Jihad staged this incident at this time on purpose. Both organizations have shown their willingness to kill civilians, both Israeli and Palestinian, in the past. Hamas effectively killed more than 1,500 of its own fighters by sending them into Israel on October 7. They knew the only militants who would return from that suicide attack were the ones who were assigned to take hostages and move them back into Gaza. They also knew as well as you and I know our own names that Israel would immediately strike back with its own missiles and bombs on Gaza and that thousands of civilians would die, because Hamas hides its militants, its leaders, its weapons and ammunition stores – in fact, everything – among the civilian population in Gaza so Israel would have to strike civilian houses and apartment buildings in order to destroy Hamas targets.”

Whoever caused the explosions in South Gaza and the hospital, many countries are believing it to be an Israel strike.
Israel are playing into Hamas hands here and will rapidly lose the sympathy vote and backing they need to continue aggression in the Gaza strip.

Quite amusing the credulous stupidity of those who believe that the hospital bombed by the Israelis was in fact destroyed by an errant Jihadist missile that ‘ fell short ‘. In the few hours available how on earth would the IDF have known and that it was the responsibility of a Jihadist group? The sheer speed of the Jewish denial and levelling of blame on others suggest the IDF was responsible. Certainly, the munitions used created an extremely potent blast wave and not something that the Palestinians possess in their arsenal. But if it were as claimed by the Jews then I would have thought such an extraordinarily powerful missile would have been unleashed at the outset of the attack on Israel and not days later when all the known launch sites in Gaza have been pulverised by unlimited Israel air strikes.

Looking at the other detonations demolishing buildings and creating fireballs that the Jews have inflicted indiscriminately on civilians in Gaza, I think it fairly obvious the tin lids were responsible for the south Gaza slaughter, they’ve already killed hundreds in this so-called safe area.

^ it's all a promising start though.

Originally Posted by david44

Earlier, dozens of rockets were launched toward Israel...

...none of them aimed at hospitals .

Certainly, the munitions used created an extremely potent blast wave and not something that the Palestinians possess in their arsenal.

hospitals contain large tanks of stored oxygen, which is delivered around the hospital by a network of pipes. so of course there would be a devastating conflagration should any one of those pipes be ignited.

this was obviously caused either intentionally, or by accident by hamas.
the timing of it , in order to derail bidens mission bears that out. why on earth would the israelis do this, after all the outcry about civilian deaths from the misguided pro palestinian loons. it is not in israels interest to bomb a hospital, but hamas care not a jot about the palestinians, they and their iranian and russian masters have been sacrificing them for 16 years now, and another 300 in the hospital is nothing to them if it is successful in turning world opinion and social media against the israeli mission to destroy hamas, and this will also empower all the outreach jihadists waiting for an excuse to kill a few whiteys and jews in western countries.

but ultimately, the truth is of no importance in this. if you support hamas, you will blame the israelis and if you support israel, you will blame hamas but as in every other war fought throughout history, it's the innocent who are used as cannon fodder to promote the ideals of misguided politicians...... and in this case the racist ideals of the worlds anti semites, because this is just the excuse they need. if jews were black and stupid things would be very different. but they are white and successful, and therefore envied.

Several independent analysts reviewed footage of the explosion and early evidence which has begun to emerge and said their investigations supported the IDF’s denial.

Some said the massive blast appeared to have been caused by a failed projectile from a large barrage of rockets launched from northern Gaza.

Islamic Jihad denied that any of its rockets were involved in the blast, claiming it did not have any activity around Gaza City at the time, but analysts noted it has previously used large rockets of the type involved.

Open-Source Intelligence (OSINT) is defined as intelligence produced by collecting, evaluating and analysing publicly available information.

One of the tools used is geolocation, which uses landmarks and other clues to gather information about a target or a specific location.

GeoConfirmed, which is run by volunteers, said the strike was likely caused by “a missile launched by a Palestinian group [which] exploded mid-air (reason unknown) and one piece fell on the hospital causing an explosion”.


The group cited several clips believed to be of the explosion from different sources and claimed the “geolocation and timing of the footage is conclusive”. However, they said their conclusions are not “proven fact”.

“That doesn’t mean that they are THE truth, just what we think is highly likely based on our geolocations(facts) and logic/reason,” they wrote on Twitter.

“We are geolocators, not official investigators… To be sure what really happened, different official investigations are needed.”

Separately, Evan Hill, who conducts open source investigations for the Washington Post said a video taken from a livestream “does appear to show a rocket interception” followed by an explosion at the hospital.

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