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    OCTOBER 11, 2023 BY M. K. BHADRAKUMAR

    Iran warns Israel against its apocalyptic war

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    Amidst growing speculations in the US about Tehran’s involvement in the Hamas’ attack on Israel last Saturday and the reported move by the Pentagon to despatch by the weekend a second aircraft carrier to the East Mediterranean, Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has spoken for the first time on the explosive situation.

    Khamenei spoke in Tehran on Tuesday in his capacity as the Commander-in-Chief of Iran’s Armed Forces choosing the occasion of the annual joint graduation ceremony for the cadets of Iran’s military academies to dwell on the topic.

    In an unprecedented move, excerpts of Khamenei’s remarks have since been relayed in Hebrew to the Israeli audience.

    Khamenei’s statement warns Israel against any rash moves that it may come to repent later. Khamenei anticipated Israel’s “irreparable defeat.” He said “the killing Palestinian men, women, children, and elderly, desecrating the al-Aqsa Mosque, beating worshipers, and letting loose armed settlers to attack the Palestinian people are among the atrocities committed by the Zionist regime.”

    Khemenei made three key points in his speech:

    First, Israel is on the wrong path by embarking on such a war against Gaza. “The rulers and decision-makers of the Zionist regime and their supporters should know that these actions will bring a greater disaster upon them, and the Palestinian people, with a firmer determination, will slap their hideous faces harder in response to these crimes.”

    Second, the rumour “spread by the elements of the Zionist regime and its supporters” about the involvement of “non-Palestinians (read Hezbollah) including Iran” in the recent events is “nonsense.”


    Three, most important, Khamenei prefaced his remarks by describing Iran’s armed forces as “the steel fortress of security, honour and national identity.” He recalled Iranian armed forces’ brilliant record in the eight-year war with Iraq, which was also a world war, and later, in thwarting the US’s “wicked plot” to create ISIS and destabilise the region, Iran being the ultimate target.

    Khamenei was all but explicit that Iran’s armed forces are in a state of readiness and have the capability to defend the country if push comes to shove. That said, he also made a nuanced remark that “The entire Islamic world is obliged to support the Palestinian nation.”

    The bottom line is, in Khamenei’s words, “From the military and intelligence aspects, this defeat (of Israel) is irreparable. It is a devastating earthquake. It is unlikely that the usurping regime will be able to use the help of the West to repair the deep impacts that this incident has left on its ruling structures.”

    Indeed, Israel faces a serious existential crisis due to the disunity within and the irrelevance of its military prowess to meet the challenges of the hybrid war it is experiencing. Iran, therefore, sees that the advantage lies with the axis of resistance.

    Interestingly, Egypt has disclosed that it had warned Israel about an impending large-scale attack by Hamas but the latter failed to act on it. To be sure, there is going to be stocktaking within Israel at some point. Prime Minister Netanyahu will be hard-pressed to explain. On the other hand, typically, he will try to cover up and whip up xenophobia with war cries to distract attention.

    In the big picture, it is inconceivable that given the catastrophic consequences, the US will dare to attack Iran. But the temptation will be there to roll back the Hezbollah in neighbouring Lebanon using the present opportunity and, second, seriously destabilise the Syrian situation while Russia remains preoccupied in Ukraine — that is to say, make a desperate attempt to undo the gains of the so-called Axis of Resistance led by Iran through the past decade and more. Therefore, there is no question that this remains a potential flashpoint as far as Iran is concerned, and Tehran will remain vigilant about not losing ground in the Levant.

    The heart of the matter is that the US and Israel are confronting today a vastly different Iran than they have been used to through the past four decades and more since the 1979 Islamic Revolution. Consider the following:

    Iran is no more in isolation and it has successfully overcome the Western sanctions;

    BRICS membership is a game changer for Iran’s integration into the global community.

    Iran is a threshold state in its nuclear weapon programme, enjoying strong relationships with Russia and China and can even tilt the balance in the co-relation of forces in West Asia and neighbouring regions and even internationally.


    Iran is no longer entrapped in a debilitating regional rivalry with Saudi Arabia and the easing of the conflict situations in Yemen and Syria creates space for Tehran to manoeuvre on the diplomatic arena. (Iran’s foreign minister is actively coordinating with his counterparts in the region.)


    All of this enables Iran to move to the next phase of development and advance its global presence and expand its influence. Suffice to say, Iran is steadily outstripping Israel in the power dynamic of the region. Being a much smaller country with an uncertain future which is called upon to adjust to the new reality of US retrenchment, Israel is no longer in the same league as Iran. The Hamas operation exposes this geopolitical reality.


    A protracted war in Gaza will be a colossal drain on Israel’s resources and can only weaken the country. Its outcome remains anybody’s guess. But on the other hand, Israel believes that it has no diplomatic options, either. On top of it, if Hezbollah enters the fray, all that happened last Saturday in Israel will seem a picnic. With its massive stockpile of advanced missiles — close to 200,000 rockets trained on virtually every nook and corner of Israel — Hezbollah has the capability to destroy Israel comprehensively.

    Principally, the deployment of two US aircraft carriers in Eastern Mediterranean is intended to send a strong message to Hezbollah. On the other hand, it also highlights that in addition to Ukraine and Taiwan, the West Asian theatre will continue to engage the US for a foreseeable future. If this is not imperial overstretch, what is it? Something has to give way.

    These are early days. Meanwhile, the EU’s united front on Israel’s war with Hamas is already showing its first cracks. On Monday, within hours of the announcement that the EU would put €691 million in aid to the Palestinian Authority under review, with all payments immediately suspended, foreign policy chief Josep Borrell stepped in to retract, saying the Commission “will not suspend the due payments” as “punishing all the Palestinian people” would have “damaged the EU interests in the region and would have only further emboldened terrorists.”

    Disagreements have appeared between EU countries on the conflict. Historically, Israel-Palestine is one of the most divisive issues in the EU. Several countries — including Ireland, Luxembourg and Denmark — sought a reference to de-escalation in the EU joint text on the conflict, which was opposed by others. France, the Nordic states, Belgium and Ireland traditionally support a position that is seen by some other countries as too pro-Palestinian.

    Quite obviously, with hardly any country in the Global South — other than a handful of cases such as India — rushing in to express “solidarity” with Israel in its apocalyptic war with Gaza and the contradictions within Israel waiting to implode sooner rather than later, Tehran is justified to believe that it is on the right side of history."

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    Israel has vowed that Gaza will be deprived of electricity and water until all Hamas hostages are released.

    Israel Katz, the country’s energy minister, said “electrical switch will be turned on, no water hydrant will be opened and no fuel truck will enter” until the “abductees” are free.

    “Humanitarian for humanitarian. And nobody should preach us on morals,” he added.
    excellent news.

    soon the palestinians will tire of being used by the hamas, who forcibly occupy their homes, mosques and hospitals and use them as military bases and stores to further their racist hate, and demand that the democratically elected palestinian authority takes control again and works towards a pragmatic agreement that can improve the lives of these poor pawns, who are as much hostages of hamas as are the israeli captives.
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    In addition to the bodies of Palestinian children slaughtered by the Israelis in their indiscriminate bombing of schools, hospitals and houses in Gaza. Only fair that they should help bury them.

    Fucking savages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munted View Post
    Unfortunately the IDF KNOW this is a lie but prefer the lie to continue. It's clickbait war propaganda spread by the majority of Western MSM. IDF could stop it right now. Even by Israel leaders puerile misunderstandings of christian standards, they constantly fail.
    Not that long ago the prime minister of Australia declared refugees on boats trying to enter Australia were throwing babies overboard. All bullshit obviously but some swallow that shit. Even before the last election one the eve the opposition declared there were Chinese submarines circling of western Australia. Even sent text messages to half the population. How fucked up is that. Get ready for a barrage of media mis information.

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    Tax is an ageing right wing Tory gammon who has suckled on the teat of fascist dogma for years. And like all dentists ploughing their furrow alone and isolated, spending their lives gazing into the maw of decay and rottenness, he has lacked the camaraderie of fellow humans who might have moderated the effects of the bilious rhetoric he has so credulously swallowed.

    You can’t blame him really, he lives in a shrinking oasis of white privilege amid coons, pakis, wogs and other coloured trash and his future is his past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    amid coons, pakis, wogs and other coloured trash and his future is his past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Tax is an ageing right wing Tory gammon who has suckled on the teat of fascist dogma for years.
    Tax prefer the ways and rules of the Old Testament.

    Since it's more or less the Hebrew Torah, I guess his stand in this disaster comes naturally.

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    Watch live: Antony Blinken and Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu hold news conference - YouTube

    Just watched on BBC. I generally agree with what Blinkin had to say and in particular his not so subtle reference to IDF avoiding civilian casualties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Tax prefer the ways and rules of the Old Testament.

    Since it's more or less the Hebrew Torah, I guess his stand in this disaster comes naturally.
    A tooth for a tooth and all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    OCTOBER 11, 2023

    Iran warns Israel against its apocalyptic war
    We come in peace

    Nobel Peace Prize 2023
    6 October 2023


    Narges Mohammadi, a woman whose name has become synonymous with the fight for human rights in Iran – a battle that has cost this activist almost everything.

    On Friday, she won the Nobel Peace Prize for “her fight against the oppression of women in Iran and her fight to promote human rights and freedom for all,”

    Mohammadi has been a prisoner for most of the past two decades. She has been sentenced repeatedly for being the voice of the voiceless, for her unrelenting campaign against the death penalty and solitary confinement – which she has had to endure for weeks at a time.

    She is currently serving a sentence of 10 years and 9 months, accused of actions against national security and propaganda against the state. She was also sentenced to 154 lashes, a punishment rights groups believe has not so far been inflicted, and travel and other bans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    sausages.

    He sure paints a bleak picture of hua hin as a retirement destination for dental surgeons
    Amid coons, pakis, wogs and other coloured trash.
    Last edited by BLD; 12-10-2023 at 08:46 PM.

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    ^^
    She might deserve her own thread

    Gutsy lady

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    ^^
    She might deserve her own thread

    Gutsy lady
    For sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    It’s fucking irony, you silly arse.

    Anyway, back on theme, the Jews have killed 447 children so far in their declared destruction of Hamas and Gaza as they pursue their biblical quest for an eye for an eye etc.

    On reflection, it seems perhaps Hitler might not have been so wrong, after all.

    Israelis are fucking savages, fuck ‘em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTelegraph View Post
    Israel has vowed that Gaza will be deprived of electricity and water until all Hamas hostages are released.


    excellent news.
    I suppose that means all the hostages will die of thirst first.

    They might want to rethink that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    It’s fucking irony, you silly arse.
    "It was the best of Times it was the wurst of thymes"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    They might want to rethink that
    I think the plan is goad Hezbollah, Get Israel to do America's Persian carpet bombing, bring KSA to heal and sell loads of weapons, reconstruction

    For the USA it could be a win win , for the fighters in Gaza six cases of virgins is their best hope. The 444 days still rankle

    Benji a second ranker gone "Ganz nett" for the general.

    ganz nett - Translation into English - examples German


    Reverso Contexthttps://context.reverso.net › translation › ganz+nettTranslation of "ganz nett" in English. quite nice very nice. quite nicely
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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    Ganz nett
    Lapid not

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
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    Are you deLAPIDated or just the Hygge Boogie Woogie Boy from Company C


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    Sieges

    Whole peoples can live for years without hope, weeks without food if in good health at onset but with temperatures similar to here adequate safe potabel drinking water is crucial.

    Is recommended to drink a maximum of 2 Litres of water per day?




    The science of hydration
    Population group Adequate intake
    Adult and adolescent females aged 14 years and over 2.0L/day
    Adult and adolescent males aged 14 years and over 2.5L/day
    Pregnant women As above for women of same age + 300ml
    Lactating (breastfeeding) women As above for women of same age + 700 ml

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    Brits are sending some muscle now...

    The UK will send surveillance aircraft and two Royal Navy ships to the eastern Mediterranean in plans “to support Israel", No 10 says.

    The aircraft will begin patrols tomorrow to "track threats to regional stability such as the transfer of weapons to terrorist groups".

    The support package includes two Royal Navy ships, surveillance assets, P8 aircraft, and a company of marines.

    Rishi Sunak said the assistance would "prevent further escalation".

    Under the plans, a Royal Navy task group will be moved to the area next week to support humanitarian efforts, Downing Street added.

    The prime minister said the government "must be unequivocal" in making sure the "horrific scenes" that have unfolded in Israel "will not be repeated

    UK to deploy Royal Navy ships to support Israel - BBC News
    Shalom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    The prime minister said the government "must be unequivocal" in making sure the "horrific scenes" that have unfolded in Israel "will not be repeated

    Sounds like he wants to start a peace proces, in which the palestinians will be treated like humans, so we finally can have some peace and quiet from the Israel-Palestine front................



    Nah

    He is another gutless western politician, who knows that if he do not suck up to the jews, the press will skin him alive and he won't be reelected

    The way it is, isn't it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    He is another gutless western politician, who knows that if he do not suck up to the jews, the press will skin him alive and he won't be reelected

    The way it is, isn't it ?
    come Helge don't be shy, you must have the solution to this, you have an opinion on everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    come Helge don't be shy, you must have the solution to this, you have an opinion on everything
    Yes I have an opinion about this.

    My very own

    I do not shop around like you
    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    gutless
    You can't figure it out ?

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