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Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai
The end game was to go for it and dare Russia to attack. And Russia attacked.
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Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai
The end game was to go for it and dare Russia to attack. And Russia attacked.
It's not owned by Russia, made by Russia or made in Russia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loy Toy
If they sell Stolly they could stop selling that, but's it's fucking carpet cleaner anyway.
Has anyone mentioned the Antonov 225? Sad news.
You see sabang, you shouldn't be so stupid. Listen to your Uncle Harry.
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LONDON—BP is abandoning its stake in Russian oil giant Rosneft in an abrupt and costly end to three decades of operating in the energy-rich country, marking the most significant move yet by a Western company in response to Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine.
Rosneft accounts for around half of BP’s oil and gas reserves and a third of its production and divesting the 19.75 percent stake will result in charges of up to $25 billion, the British company said, without saying how it plans to extricate itself.
“I have been deeply shocked and saddened by the situation unfolding in Ukraine and my heart goes out to everyone affected. It has caused us to fundamentally rethink BP’s position with Rosneft,” BP Chief Executive Bernard Looney said.
BP Quits Russia in Up to $25 Billion Hit After Ukraine Invasion
Now the crazed dictator is trying to play nuclear chicken. He's really out of his depth now.
Obviously it's a feeble attempt to convince his people that he is defending them from nuclear war, when he's actually the one who's caused the whole problem in the first place.
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NATO’s nuclear powers – the US, UK and France – do not need to make a nuclear response. One of the great advantages of having a submarine-based nuclear deterrent is that, in crises such as this, the Western powers do not need to visibly raise the alert status of their forces.
Their submarines are safe from preemptive strike without doing so. Putin and his general staff know that the UK – like the US and France – has the capability to inflict terrible damage on Russia if it, or its NATO allies, were to be attacked. That is enough.
He is losing the war with Ukraine, not with NATO. No wonder he is already looking for an easy escape route.Quote:
Originally Posted by Backspin
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Originally Posted by VocalNeal
Russia will probably rebuild it. Or for all we know, its safe and it was just a war rumor
Belarus revokes it’s nonnuclear state status — highly likely Russian nuclear weapons will be deployed there any day now.
A Ukrainian soldier fires a missile at a Russian tank near #Kharkiv #Ukraine Seems the anti-tank weapons are working wonderful. #UkraineInvasion #UkraineWar
https://twitter.com/OSICnick/status/1497869364762185728
The Ukrainian Air Force has released additional footage of their Turkish made TB2 drones striking the Russian Occupation Forces.
https://twitter.com/AceJaceu/status/1497998439828926470
https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status...00566055800837
Putin's Christmas Card list is shrinking ...
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Russian Hockey Star - Alex Ovechkin 'Please, No More War' - After Putin Attacks Ukraine
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Rublev isn't the only Russian athlete speaking out against Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine ... 'cause one of the country's most famous and talented athletes, NHL superstar Alex Ovechkin, is speaking out against the attack.
What makes Ovechkin's stance interesting is that he's been an ardent supporter of President Putin ... even campaigning for Vladimir when he was up for reelection several years ago.
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Russian tennis star Andrey Rublev had a simple, yet powerful message as his country and Ukraine collide on the world stage ... writing "no war please" on a camera following his match in Dubai.
Andrey -- the world's No.7 ranked tennis player -- knocked off his opponent, Hubert Hurkacz, on Friday ... and then made his mark for all to see.
Russian Hockey Star Alex Ovechkin Pleads, 'Please, No More War' After Putin Invades Ukraine
Wrong again. He was told his wish list was irresponsible and unrealistic. The spoiled dictator was quite predictable when he didn’t get his way. He screamed and stamped his feet, then cried when military commanders told him the truth. He did not have the superiority he had assumed, and the Ukraine kicked his arse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Backspin
Even the child in Putin understands mutually assured destruction. Conventional failure leaves him with more options than nuclear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Backspin
Yes, Putin is dumb, not terminally stupid like you!
Enough about TRUMP ... what about Putin? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Switch
This YouTuber is an American who is in Kyiv, he is friends with Bald and Bankrupt who is currently staying at his apartment. This gives you an idea of what it is like being stuck in Kyiv right now.
STAY AND SHELTER OR LEAVE: UKRAINE ���� - YouTube
Donbass forces capture Nato weapons.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMnB2yWX...jpg&name=small
https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/stat...Mhapf-RY1D1IBQ
The numerous signed treaties have been scrapped/retain no status then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Switch
All the signees were irresponsible and unrealistic?
Since the reunification of Germany the US and Russia have been negotiating on NATO extension in the now independent former USSR members , I t has being reported that Baker when Negotiating the reunification of Germany promised that NATO will not extend into this regions.Quote:
Originally Posted by panama hat
"Washington D.C., December 12, 2017 – U.S. Secretary of State James Baker’s famous “not one inch eastward” assurance about NATO expansion in his meeting with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, was part of a cascade of assurances about Soviet security given by Western leaders to Gorbachev and other Soviet officials throughout the process of German unification in 1990 and on into 1991, according to declassified U.S., Soviet, German, British and French documents posted today by the National Security Archive at George Washington University"
NATO Expansion: What Gorbachev Heard | National Security Archive
Nations do not tell other nations what to do, but in the matter of issues that threaten their national security they request that they stop doing certain things, if said nations do not stop doing those things, and after negotiations fail, the only option is war. History is full of such instances.
The US is no angel in the Ukraine situation and I am sure they were behind the coup that removed the democratically elected pro-Russian Government 2014.
The situation in the Ukraine is not as black and white as some would like to think. If the situation was reversed and the US was in a similar situation, I am convinced they would have devised an excuse to also invade.
Yes ... your point?Quote:
Originally Posted by Backspin
On the lighter side (unless you are a Ruskie sniper)
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#Ukraine army cats are trained to spot and direct the location of #Russiansniper laser dots.
This is Mikael “The panther of Kharkiv” who single handed exposed the location of 4 Snipers which ended in their deaths.
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No idea re the veracity of the story ... the claws of war and all that :)
All the commentary is here ... https://twitter.com/NowImNothing_/st...27641172410368
Are NATO taking advantage of former Russian satellite countries, or did they CHOOSE to join a democratic, defensive union for their own protection?Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai
Its an interesting and yet, highly provocative question, whichever way you choose to read it. At least you are free to choose. :)
How many NATO countries have send armed forces to assist Ukraine?Quote:
Originally Posted by Switch
NATO does what is good for NATO IMO (US, Germany, France ,UK)
When Turkey, A NATO Member, invaded Cyprus, another NATO member, and is still occupying a large portion of the country, What did NATO do?
Cyprus is not a NATO member.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai
It seems to be a major point that countries choose to join NATO, which is an alliance of free sovereign states. Not aware of any country every asking to join the Soviet block. Russia does not want to have a similar organization as NATO, it wants subjugated vassal states.
Not really a surprise which way Ukraine leans.
I think the current crisis, the invasion of Hungary, the invasion of Czechoslovakia etc etc etc . . . are ample reason to want to join NATO - again, The US doesn't make all the decisions, neither does Russia. Plus, where is this agreeement?Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai
Added to which, the talks were between the USSR and the US . . . the former Warsaw Pact 'countries of seven' joined after the USSR fell.
Their choice, their free will . . . their fear of Russia doing exactly what they are doing.
None.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai
Why does this come as a surprise to you/anyone? Added to which, that isn't quite true . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai
And is Turkey in the EU? Nope. You have the answer yourself, though - both NATO countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai
I know you're Greek, but even you must admit that Turkey is far more powerful militarily than Greece and the EU and NATO are protecting Athens