Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

After the extension in Oct 31, the logical next step is going to be a full REVOKE, but that will need a GE and a lot of parliamentary debate and possibly a new REF

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

if there are no actions being taken one way or the other, the default will be REMAIN

How many times are you going to repeat that patently untrue statement?

No-deal Brexit is still the default outcome if MPs cannot agree anything else and there are no further extensions. The deadline is 31 October.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46393399

Originally Posted by cyrille

How many times are you going to repeat that patently untrue statement?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46393399

and you believe the BBC now, even your budy buriram doesn't

anyway, REMAIN is the de-facto default no matter what misguided opinions you are reading out there

you are officially as legally literate as buriram, and didn't even needed to go to court

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

and you believe the BBC now, even your budy buriram doesn't

You are the one always quoting BBC bias in links. I have no objection to opinions, but your outrageous, ill informed desires have no place on here.

Keep your silliness and pipe dreams for the dog house idiot.

In the absence of legislation to the contrary, leaving on 31 October is still the default. Sorry I can't post that in a version of braille for the hard of thinking.

Originally Posted by Switch

the hard of thinking

lovely , she's nailed it.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1...770630658?s=20

UKIP's new leader, Dick Braine...only in the UK.

Originally Posted by Switch

In the absence of legislation to the contrary, leaving on 31 October is still the default. Sorry I can't post that in a version of braille for the hard of thinking.

but again there is no legislation for hard Brexit, this is the pipe dream, REMAIN is the default

anyway, betting is illegal in France, but it is in England. Any links where I could put a few thousands EURO on REMAIN for the Oct 31 deadline? I bet the odds are quite good for me and I could make a nice gain

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

After the extension in Oct 31, the logical next step is going to be a full REVOKE, but that will need a GE and a lot of parliamentary debate and possibly a new REF

but worth it.

so in recap, we have

1. No legislation and legal basis (including political declaration) for an orderly Exit aka Doris Deal
2. No legislation and legal basis (including political declaration) for a disorderly Exit aka Hard Brexit
3. Default is therefore REMAIN as it is, and EXTEND of course, but that's not even necessary anymore as you can't leave anyhow

UK == Stuck in legal and parliamentary mud

There is legislation for a clean Brexit as explained numerous times to you, current legislation (law) states we leave on Oct 31 deal or no deal.

again, in case you missed it, there is no law that says you can leave on Oct 31 without a deal, that's the silly interpretation by the usual Brexit loons

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

again, in case you missed it, there is no law that says you can leave on Oct 31 without a deal, that's the silly interpretation by the usual Brexit loons

Are you even aware of what A50 is and what it says?

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Are you even aware of what A50 is and what it says?

yes it's a declaration to prepare for a new agreement for leaving the EU. Leaving an ongoing agreement takes two, not one side. We agreed to it, you didn't, hence why you are stuck in REMAIN mode ad infine.

listen, I seriously think Doris would have left if she thought she could have done it legally, but she couldn't hence why she kept extending, and was granted those extension.

You can't leave the EU without agreeing to Doris deal. Period.

the EU27 would have to agree to a no deal Brexit for it to happen in some legal way, and approved by the UK Parliament. Since this is not the case either, it's fooking REMAIN until further notice.

Anyway, you will find out soon and you will come here crying in your beer that Boris betrayed you, but in reality he didn't. It's simply not possible legally.

Go talk to a lawyer or take some basic Law 101 courses on supranational agreements, that's the first you are taught in law school. All supranational agreements supercede local laws.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

You can't leave the EU without agreeing to Doris deal. Period.

So why are the Irish shitting their pants about the prospect of a no-deal Brexit?

And why is everyone trying to find a way to stop the UK leaving with no deal on Oct 31 if it wasn't the current law. Court case next month, Parliament is also back next month where remainer MPs will be doing all they can to change the current law to prevent no deal.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

jesus christ, you thought we were leaving on March 29 and told you already it wasn't going to happen

and you are not explaining 2+2 = 4 you illiterate fool, you can't even count that high

your politicians have been playing silly games and manipulating everyone by making silly claims that do not exist. No deal is not going to happen, period.

Should I do a McAfee and cut off my cock if there is a hard Brexit on Oct 31 !!!

I'm talking about the law as it currently stands, of course the law can be changed by a new act of parliament, no one is disputing that. I appreciate you aren't a native speaker but I struggle to see how it can be explained any simpler.

Originally Posted by Neverna

So why are the Irish shitting their pants about the prospect of a no-deal Brexit?

they are bargaining for something else I suspect, playing stupid games as usual. I don't know, you are British you should know by now you fookers love to tell lies and play mind games

I think they are more worried about the terrorist angle because the EU was instrumental for the Good Friday agreement as there was no longer a frontier or a checkpoint for people movement, or whatever it was then. They are worried that without the EU protection, the British politicians in London will play their wicked games they have the secret for and fuck up again the situation there by dividing everyone !!!

Brexit is indeed a threat to Ireland "soft" unity and the rest of the UK unity

Originally Posted by buriramboy

I'm talking about the law as it currently stands, of course the law can be changed by a new act of parliament, no one is disputing that. I appreciate you aren't a native speaker but I struggle to see how it can be explained any simpler.

I am talking about the current law, nothing makes it possible to leave sans deal legally. FFS, get a fooking law degree and find out, and stop reading The SUN.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

And why is everyone trying to find a way to stop the UK leaving with no deal on Oct 31 if it wasn't the current law. Court case next month, Parliament is also back next month where remainer MPs will be doing all they can to change the current law to prevent no deal.

they are not trying to stop the UK leaving with no deal, they are trying to stop the UK from leaving, period. Doris deal not being satisfactory, they want to REMAIN or REVOKE.

So the debate is already sealed. Next stop, EXTEND and REMAIN or REVOKE, that's the only possible outcome at this stage.

Boris is going to sound like an Asperger kid in front of the Parliament with his no deal threats. Everyone knows by now that it's not possible, legally, politically and even economically, so the debates about hard brexit is just going to be a posture shitshow, Westminster has Boris by the balls, he can't do anything and he knows it.

What would be the most interesting would be to see what kind of dirty trick is going to pull, and how and on what ground he is going to do a 180 and ask for EXTENSION or possibly if he is smart, REVOKE

I wish the EU had the balls and initiate Hard Brexit instead, but they won't

We should just vacate this this and leave it as Buttflies echo chamber. I see Blackpool Bob's back as KWs reincarnation.

That's what the friends are for:

Bolton Says U.S. Strongly Backs Brexit Even if No EU Deal Is Reached
Trump’s national security adviser held meetings in London on trade, defense

https://www.wsj.com/articles/bolton-...ed-11565636871

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

I see Blackpool Bob's back as KWs reincarnation.

We already know that you aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer, no need for you to prove it.

Those fookers never learn, trying to make themselves useful and arguing about things that have already been decided

jesus christ, you are doomed without the EU, at least the commissions is making real decisions. Lucky for you that you are not leaving anymore

Brexit: Hammond says PM's demands 'wreck' chance of new deal
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49336144

Former Chancellor Philip Hammond has accused the PM of trying to wreck the chance of a new Brexit deal, by making demands the EU could never accept.

In a Times article, Mr Hammond said a no-deal Brexit would be "a betrayal" of the 2016 referendum result.

He said Parliament would "make its voice heard", adding that a no deal "must not happen".

A No 10 source said the UK would leave on 31 October despite Mr Hammond's "best efforts to the contrary".

The source added that Mr Hammond, as chancellor, "did everything he could" to block preparations for leaving and had "undermined negotiations".

The former chancellor rejected this suggestion in a tweet, saying he wanted to deliver Brexit "and voted to do so three times".