Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by strigils

The question is Seekingareturntoeurope, what can the UK buy now that it didn't before. I for one am looking forward to the EU twisting and turning over the forthcoming years, introducing ever more stupid ill considered rules and excuses for suppressing imports and restricting trade.

We should start a demise of the EU thread.

Are you a menopausal woman? You certainly display all the coherence of one.


You dribbling buffoon, the UK has re-erected a barrier to trade with 450 million consumers 22 miles distant from its shores not seen since 1972 and any number of SMEs are about to fall into indebtedness and bankruptcy in attempting to surmount it.

The EU is an unfettered trading bloc of 27 member states whereas the UK is a parochial backwater on par with fucking Peru, its new partner in the TPP.

You're fucked.

And it seems NI is re-igniting as a conflict province and Scotland draws ever nearer to secession.

Actually, it's working out quite well from a personal view: £ is stabilising at 41 baht </>, Brexit is undermining the economy ensuring losses and unemployment proving we were right, and the Union is in the process of disintegrating but Engerwalish taxpayers will be paying for my pensions for years to come, hopefully.

Win-win all round and of course when the dust settles and folk adjust to the higher taxes and rising employment the Tories will be slaughtered at the polls and the socialists will rape the rich.

Now, that's a fucking good Brexit dividend.

PS. Most will not afford imported EU produce but as a minority 3rd country of no relevance who will give a fuck.

Most of that is great news, but really its you who is as you put it Fk'd....

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Engerwalish taxpayers will be paying for my pensions for years to come, hopefully.

because you've chosen to waste away in a backwater cesspool with some bloke and no hope of selling the albatross to bankroll your return. Tick Tock, Tick Tock. It seems to me that you'd be ideally suited to an EU role as you display the same levels of planning competence as the committee members.

har har har

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Yes but there is nothing like rapping it across some foreign toady's knuckles with the exclamation of "Stand Aside knave! The Queen commands you let me pass freely!".

At which point they tug their forelocks, stand aside and mutter "Yes guv".


Or so I'm told.

Good old stiff upper lip...

Green sent

I see Boris and Gove are having a larf...

Gove wants the 3 month grace period for NI to be extended to 2023 and Boris wants to invoke Article 16 having just admonished EU for trying the same last week.

The shellfish fiasco? It appears the industry believed what they were told by the government...oops!

No wonder Chas wants this thread closed....

^ think wider Troy, the Skirts are revolting and have an SNP lead, stir up the Pikeys a bit more and hopefully something snaps and your friends in the EU can take on parental responsibility for them - imo its all working well. The Union became irrelevant once we could access cheap post Soviet Union labour and lets face it the Poles speak better English.

It could be the EU 30 before the decade is out with a bit of luck.

Originally Posted by strigils

the Skirts are revolting and have an SNP lead, stir up the Pikeys a bit more and hopefully something snaps and your friends in the EU can take on parental responsibility for them

Decommissioning North Sea Oil will turn Scotland into the basket case of Europe, especially with no Barnett formula subsidy.

Cut their apron strings, they've suckled on the English teat for too long.

Actually i have no hate for the Jocks, the Oirish or Welsh ( it appears my family co-mingled unwisely in times past), but when someone keeps whinging they want out of the team then ffs let them go.

i for one can't wait till i never have to listen to that twat Blackford or his sanctimonious boss Jimmy one moment longer - it will be worth every penny of the divorce settlement and adding the re-build of Roman architecture as a condition will make my fooking day. Jimmy you best learn your day prisoners how to butter a frog and which ever nameless wanker is looking after the western boarders better read up on Dykes and that ain't a PC nod to gender liberalism.

Originally Posted by Troy

I see Boris and Gove are having a larf...

Gove wants the 3 month grace period for NI to be extended to 2023 and Boris wants to invoke Article 16 having just admonished EU for trying the same last week.

The shellfish fiasco? It appears the industry believed what they were told by the government...oops!

No wonder Chas wants this thread closed....

You really are beginning to sound like SA and Cyrille. Misquoting a post and, just like those two fools, you only listen when you are talking, or cherry pick something you think you heard a faint echo from.
My recommendation was to replace this thread with a new one. “what now for the eu?”

A subject few remainers want to discuss, preferring instead to highlight the entirely predictable consequences of trading as a single sovereign nation, outside the parameters of a monolithic paper nightmare, configured by the EU.

How is the EU sponsored collective going with their centralized (we know best for all 27 members, they must not be allowed to act alone,) vaccine roll out?

Originally Posted by Switch

My recommendation was to replace this thread with a new one. “what now for the eu?”

A subject few remainers want to discuss

A completely baseless claim, as usual from you.

Why are you under the impression that threads are started by 'recommendation'?

Start it and see.

The absurd claims and delusions provided by the likes of you, and particularly jabber, could be worth it.

Or at least provide some evidence of your trademark laughable nonsense.

As usual, Chas has no answers and has to resort to attacking the poster.

Originally Posted by cyrille

A completely baseless claim, as usual from you.

Why are you under the impression that threads are started by 'recommendation'?

Start it and see.

The absurd claims and delusions provided by the likes of you, and particularly jabber, could be worth it.

Or at least provide some evidence of your trademark laughable nonsense.

Howay and boil yer heed little man

Q...E...D

What is so utterly repellent about cheap propaganda based on nothing other than lies, deceit, invention, bigotry and prejudice is that it is so utterly hypocritical in that the opposite to what is being claimed is usually true, and that is never more true when the propagandist affects some imaginary injury.

That cvunt Gove and the baying pack of tame Tory right wing press jackals are all heaping opprobrium on the EU for destroying the NI Brexit provisions and undermining the GFA, a grotesque exaggeration of the true situation when for 8 hours the EU were proposing to ban the export of vaccines to NI, yet only a matter of three months ago this very same shower of utter Tory shite were trying to push through the Commons a bill that destroyed the WA protocol in relation to trade within the UK and NI.

And now this nauseating crew of egregious shit are orchestrating a daft campaign of patriotism because, despite 10 years of depredations, the NHS and the Civil Service have managed to vaccinate 10 million people against a viral infection they fucking ignored for three months leading to more deaths than Germany and France combined with less than half the population.

Yep, let's hear it for the British!

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

That cvunt Gove and the baying pack of tame Tory right wing press jackals are all heaping opprobrium on the EU for destroying the NI Brexit provisions and undermining the GFA

One sided as per.

The EU have delighted in using the protocol throughout negotiations knowing full well they could use it with the weight of the GFA behind it hence why the UK resorted to the IMB. Since the start of the year, less that one month into the new trading relationship, the EU through their own inadequate action on vaccine procurement and approval have enacted Art 16 and they have also taken great care to ensure the border process is as disruptive as possible. In short your much vaunted block is behaving like its going through the terrible twos and the world is looking on making their own judgments.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

the NHS and the Civil Service have managed to vaccinate 10 million people

The civil service had nothing to do with it. Left to them, the delivery programme would have been stalled by civil service deliberate intransigence.
The vaccine roll out logistics were given to a free marketeer, and were incredibly successful as a result of cutting out cobweb riddled Whitehall geese.

s.a.

And now this nauseating crew of egregious shit are orchestrating a daft campaign of patriotism

what on earth are you blabbering about now you demented old loon. has the atmospheric pollution enveloping the country reduced your already waning abilities to think straight.
it's your beloved labour party, those miserable brit hating dinosaurs that have decided to bring back patriotism and the union flag.

s.a.

the NHS and the Civil Service have managed to vaccinate 10 million people

and what the fuck did the civil service do regarding vaccinations.
it was scientists, backed by private enterprise followed by the nhs and thousands of unpaid volunteers drawn from the army and the general public
all you overpaid penpushers did was follow instructions and rubber stamp the documents put on your desks.



Labour defends new strategy to focus on patriotism and union flag.

Leftwing MPs say plan risks alienating young and BAME voters and lacks ambition and authenticity


A leaked strategy document advised Labour to make “use of the [union] flag, veterans [and] dressing smartly” as part of a rebranding to help it win back the trust of disillusioned voters.

Jessica Elgot
@jessicaelgot
Wed 3 Feb 2021 18.30 GMT


Labour has defended its renewed focus on British values and the union jack after a leaked strategy document was criticised by some within the party, saying Keir Starmer sees patriotism as wanting to improve the country.

The leaked strategy document, seen by the Guardian, advised Labour to make “use of the [union] flag, veterans [and] dressing smartly” as part of a rebranding to help it win back the trust of disillusioned voters. It also reveals that voters could not describe what or who Labour stands for.

The presentation suggests that displays of patriotism are needed to reinforce that the party has changed. One slide says: “Belonging needs to be reinforced through all messengers,” while another is headed “communicating Labour’s respect and commitment for the country can represent a change in the party’s body language”.

The document has been criticised by a number of leftwing MPs, including former shadow cabinet ministers Clive Lewis and Richard Burgeon, who said it risked alienating young and BAME voters and lacked ambition and authenticity. However, some of the party’s former MPs defended the strategy, saying it showed the party wanted to rebuild trust.

Gareth Snell, the former MP for Stoke-on-Trent Central, said critics should realise how critical some of the issues were for some voters and that patriotism should not be conflated with xenophobia.

Keir Starmer's patriot act risks turning off his core Labour voters
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“I don’t think some of the criticism that came out last night that suggested that this is just a move towards nationalism is fair at all because there is a clear and distinct difference between patriotism and nationalism,” he said. “Clement Attlee and Denis Healey both wore uniforms and took pride in their country and no one would consider them nationalists.

Labour defends new strategy to focus on patriotism and union flag | Labour | The Guardian

Originally Posted by Switch

The civil service had nothing to do with it. Left to them, the delivery programme would have been stalled by civil service deliberate intransigence.
The vaccine roll out logistics were given to a free marketeer, and were incredibly successful as a result of cutting out cobweb riddled Whitehall geese.

Twat.


Government publishes plan for the largest vaccination programme in British history - GOV.UK

Originally Posted by taxexile

Labour defends new strategy to focus on patriotism and union flag.

Easier to do now they don't have a terrorist sympathiser as a leader (at least I don't think he's a terrorist sympathiser).

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Government publishes plan for the largest vaccination programme in British history

Which they had to do because they had no plan for the largest protection programme in British history..
Nothing to be proud of.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Twat.


Government publishes plan for the largest vaccination programme in British history - GOV.UK

Anyone can rubber stamp requisitions. Don’t pretend that the civil service in the UK has done anything out of the ordinary.
While vaccine centres work around the clock, a civil servant will not raise a finger once his 37 hour week is done.
I may have overestimated the CS working week, which obviously includes tea and lunch breaks.

The Chair of the rollout programs and its chief enabler, was Kate Bingham, a private sector expert in getting things done, seconded from her regular employment, to an unpaid government appointment.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

It was the civil service who framed the negotiations with Oxford, AZ

No it wasn’t. The government had to a appoint a Minister for Vaccine Deployment, in order to prevent CS minions from putting a spoke in the wheel of routine requisitions and payments.

Basic clerical duties cannot be entrusted to spiky insolent wankers like you. Fortunately successive Conservative governments have the removed opportunities for such luddites to prosper in undermining government policy. Times have changed since your days as a faux mandarin. EO’s can no longer halt routine work on a personal whim.

She was merely the focal point within an array of agencies marshalled and coordinated by the Civil Service, you oaf.

You lay people are truly quite ignorant but then, we are not dealing with the creme de la creme, are we, NAAFI boy?

You may recall the private sector being responsible for the world's greatest banking crash when debt was miss-sold to the global financial institutions by the US and prcioitatd a crisis that threatened to overwhelm our entire economic structure. The British contribution to establishing transatlantic equilibrium was entirely credited to Alistair Darling and Brown supported by the Treasury and BoE.

Chas, you are a hapless ageing ignoramus too stupid to know your arse from your elbow.

Yep, countries run by themselves, don't they, you total, toothless, shrunken-gummed tit.

Originally Posted by Switch

No it wasn’t. The government had to a appoint a Minister for Vaccine Deployment, in order to prevent CS minions from putting a spoke in the wheel of routine requisitions and payments.

You dozy clot, Nadim Zorro was appointed parliamentary under secretary of state at the dept of health and care responsible for vaccine rollout, a fucking programme administered by civil servants in that fucking department.

Why are you so stupid, NAAFI boy?