Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

^ Does he? Do you have a link to that? I was under the impression ECJ would rule on matters of EU law that apply to the FTA only.

Originally Posted by Switch

Barnier insists that any area of disagreement will go before the ECJ for arbitration. Yet the ECJ is just one of many broken and biased institutions, from which the UK wishes to withdraw.
An eminently sensible bargaining position for the EU to insist upon.
Time for the EU and Barnier to realise that the bus is leaving, with, or without them and their self aggrandizing institutions.

The EU wishes to retain the ECJ as the arbitration forum for the resolution of breaches of agreements signed off by Britain and the EU. This is obviously the logical venue given the UK is merely a satellite in the orbit of the EU insofar as it impinges on trade, level playing field protocols and observance of compliance standards.

The ECJ is neither biased nor broken, only an idiot unhampered by any knowledge of the subject could possibly allege such a stupid thing, or of course a demented old frazzled buffoon marinated in bigotry and xenophobic prejudice drinking from his cup of bile in the Last Chance Saloon of an unremarkable and undistinguished life.

Was the ECJ biased when it found in favour of the City of London's banking industry in its action against the Euro countries which argued that it was unlawful for the UK banks to trade in the Euro because the UK was not a Euro member state?

Originally Posted by Switch

Barnier insists that any area of disagreement will go before the ECJ for arbitration. Yet the ECJ is just one of many broken and biased institutions, from which the UK wishes to withdraw.
An eminently sensible bargaining position for the EU to insist upon.
Time for the EU and Barnier to realise that the bus is leaving, with, or without them and their self aggrandizing institutions.

the English bus might leaving, but they forgot to put gas in it, and the old bus engine hasn't run in 40 years

good luck on your road trip, I hope you have good insurance and road assistance in case of breakdowns

oh wait, you still haven't filled the gas tank yet

Be honest, when the EU goes pop will you blame Brexit or the virus?

Originally Posted by jabir

Be honest, when the EU goes pop will you blame Brexit or the virus?

we have another 100 years to worry about that

Credit where due, you're liberal with zeros.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

The EU wishes to retain the ECJ as the arbitration forum for the resolution of breaches of agreements signed off by Britain and the EU. This is obviously the logical venue given the UK is merely a satellite in the orbit of the EU insofar as it impinges on trade, level playing field protocols and observance of compliance standards.

The ECJ is neither biased nor broken, only an idiot unhampered by any knowledge of the subject could possibly allege such a stupid thing, or of course a demented old frazzled buffoon marinated in bigotry and xenophobic prejudice drinking from his cup of bile in the Last Chance Saloon of an unremarkable and undistinguished life.

Was the ECJ biased when it found in favour of the City of London's banking industry in its action against the Euro countries which argued that it was unlawful for the UK banks to trade in the Euro because the UK was not a Euro member state?

It is an EU funded and directed institution. Barnier wants the EU institutions to rule on the EU future without UK.
No of course it’s not likely to be biased you utter nincompoop.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

The EU wishes to retain the ECJ as the arbitration forum for the resolution of breaches of agreements

Which other countries that the EU has trade agreements with, have also signed up to allowing the ECJ to be the arbiter of any disputes?

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Gove is a doctrinal nutcase, you of course are merely ignorant and not a little stupid.

While you are there and posting. Can you remind me what the date will be when GBP and the Euro will reach parity?

Essentially, disputes are resolved under agreed mechanisms incorporated in bi-lateral agreements modelled under WTO guidelines and protocols.

But the UK is a different animal entirely, it is unique and unlikely to be repeated ( no other country would, or could, be that stupid ) and therefore it falls to be treated differently.

Obviously.

As I said before, many times, if the UK fails to agree terms and reverts to WTO status with a tariff regime synonymous with a coon state then it will achieve parity but eventually that will diminish further and 90-95 cents would be the floor.

Obviously.

Are you being obtuse for the sake of it?

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

But the UK is a different animal entirely, it is unique and unlikely to be repeated ( no other country would, or could, be that stupid ) and therefore it falls to be treated differently.

What a ridiculous statement, one of many you make but usually get away with hidden under the drift of hyperbole

Clearly, you fail to understand.

No matter, do you not have some concrete you could lay?

Sausages what about suggesting Benidorm to Chaidee, the transition from pattaya to there won't seem so difficult for him.

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

Sausages what about suggesting Benidorm to Chaidee, the transition from pattaya to there won't seem so difficult for him.

This is not the appropriate venue for your loathsome, snide and quite, quite stupid remarks, you pitiful little retard.
Now fuck off to the DH where you evidently belong.

Mods can't you warn this pustule to confine himself to the subject under debate.

OK well we'll find somewhere else. Now WTO is looking extremely likely, Barnier has his hands tied by France so he really cannot do much about the EU red lines poor chap. It really does look like they've backed themselves into a corner. The July deadline for extension is not far off so they don't have long to make their minds up.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Clearly, you fail to understand.

No matter, do you not have some concrete you could lay?

you are arguing with Chavs with the mental capacity of a 8yr old

Their dogmatism in failing to see there has been no, nor will be, any benefit from Brexit is really quite depressing.

Britain is diminishing itself from one year to the next in the eyes of the world and the puerile attempts by the Brexit loons to bluster their way through the current negotiations merely compounds that perception among the market leaders and their political lobby. Indeed, from a domestic point of view, the COVID shambles has now dispelled what illusion of competence many may have entertained about this dreadful Tory government of the stupid and inept whom they had previously supported.

What a drearily awful prospect there is in store for Blighty over the next four years.

Still, at least one can derive some consolation from the knowledge that many of those 17.6 million who voted for this catastrophe will languish in abject economic misery for years to come. One relishes the sound of their inevitable caterwauling as they bear the scourge of poverty and loss.

The most comforting aspect of this debate is that Barnier, SA and buttplug will have absolutely no impact on the date, the means and the actual departure of the UK from a pitiful, unraveling institution that will never be fit for purpose.
The EU continues to struggle with internecine warfare of historic proportions. Add the muted and appalling response to the covid 19 debacle, and it’s easy to see the collapse of this tawdry monolith.
Europe may survive, but the much vaunted institutions will fall like dominoes, freeing a further 27 countries from the ensuing rapture as SA self immolates.

So - here we go. If you check the progress of some acts going through Parliament, you will not that they are all stil pushing the UK further into the EU.

"But but but boris said we are leaving"? you all cry.

Ahh well children, you make a mistake of believing a single word s tory scum says.

So, here it is the play.

"In order to release you all from lock down you need the vaccine. To ensure you all have this, you need the app or non removable bracelet (you can have a chip if you prefer - we are nice like that). This needs to be done on a European basis though due to blah blah so because of Corona we have to stay in a bit longer, and reverse Brexit. We will have another referendum in 10 years and you can try again if you like. However, of course, you can Brexit, but well, you will remain in lockdown for ever. What would you like to do?"

Referendum - Remain in the EU or Remain locked up.

Which way are you voting?

There's so much unfounded assertion there that it's difficult to know where to start.

Or perhaps 'bollocks' might be a better word.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Ahh well children, you make a mistake of believing a single word s tory scum says.

I get that bit.

So, here it is the play.

"In order to release you all from lock down you need the vaccine. To ensure you all have this, you need the app or non removable bracelet (you can have a chip if you prefer - we are nice like that). This needs to be done on a European basis though due to blah blah so because of Corona we have to stay in a bit longer, and reverse Brexit. We will have another referendum in 10 years and you can try again if you like. However, of course, you can Brexit, but well, you will remain in lockdown for ever. What would you like to do?"

Sorry mate, bit early in the day for that, will come back to it later.

Referendum - Remain in the EU or Remain locked up.

Which way are you voting?

Ok, that's on someone's agenda for sure.

Originally Posted by Switch

The most comforting aspect of this debate is that Barnier, SA and buttplug will have absolutely no impact on the date, the means and the actual departure of the UK from a pitiful, unraveling institution that will never be fit for purpose.
The EU continues to struggle with internecine warfare of historic proportions. Add the muted and appalling response to the covid 19 debacle, and it’s easy to see the collapse of this tawdry monolith.
Europe may survive, but the much vaunted institutions will fall like dominoes, freeing a further 27 countries from the ensuing rapture as SA self immolates.

One doesn't wish to be too personal but reading Chas's increasingly wild and febrile interventions in this debate one can't help but think he is corresponding to a different audience on another thread elsewhere, possibly even on another board ( or indeed on another planet!).

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Which way are you voting?

Not with my foil hat on.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

One doesn't wish to be too personal but reading Chas's increasingly wild and febrile interventions in this debate one can't help but think he is corresponding to a different audience on another thread elsewhere, possibly even on another board ( or indeed on another planet!).

I am most certainly not corresponding with stick in the mud window lickers like you. Please return to obstinate and abject refusal to see the EU as anything other than a socialist paradise.