Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by Switch

Pragmatism. Big business is playing the hand it has been dealt. Getting on with doing business. Exactly as I predicted.

BAE is a major defence supplier, not just to the MoD, but globally. They recognise the value of expertise in top end systems production and there are very few countries who have this recent knowledge, fom Nuclear powered submarines to major aircraft carriers and beyond. The kind of strength takes years to acquire and the UK has it in spades, producing ships, aircraft and other high end defence equipments.

Ha ha ha ha ha ... What a load of baloney. If only you knew the truth. That's just so unbelievably bollox mate.

Originally Posted by Switch

It demonstrates that the supposed smart types agree with me, the EU is about to collapse

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@jabir keep the cowardly rage pm coming, they are the best indicator I'm balls deep in snowflake.

Originally Posted by foobar

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@jabir keep the cowardly rage pm coming, they are the best indicator I'm balls deep in snowflake.

Originally Posted by Troy

Ha ha ha ha ha ... What a load of baloney. If only you knew the truth. That's just so unbelievably bollox mate.

I am aware that BAE are not squeaky clean, but how many other nations have the submarine and carrier expertise that UK has? Hardly bollocks, unless you have a link of course.

Originally Posted by Switch

.... how many other nations have the submarine and carrier expertise that UK has? Hardly bollocks, unless you have a link of course.

With all this naval expertise, it is a bit strange the UK is unable to prevent the constant stream of rubber dingies invading the English channel...

Originally Posted by Troy

Ha ha ha ha ha ... What a load of baloney. If only you knew the truth. That's just so unbelievably bollox mate.

German industry likes Bae.

https://www.baesystems.com/en/articl...-joint-venture

Nigel Farage has admitted two of his children have German passports.

But the ex Ukip leader insisted while his children value their German identity there were still British - and would support England in football.

Originally Posted by Switch

I am aware that BAE are not squeaky clean, but how many other nations have the submarine and carrier expertise that UK has? Hardly bollocks, unless you have a link of course.

Carriers without a catapult/arrestor system...are you serious? British wasteofspace didn't get that nickname for nothing. Spent too much time creaming off the Saudis and haven't ever built something on time and within budget. Always black.ailing the government with sob stories and job losses. They sell the RAF and the RN short on every occasion. I could go into very specific details, especially with certain avionics equipment, with some failures costing lives.

No links. I don't need links to tell you how much money they have wasted the UK taxpayer, the thieving fooking bastards.

Originally Posted by Switch

German industry likes Bae.

https://www.baesystems.com/en/articl...-joint-venture

BAE doing there usual project management business model no doubt. Get the order and sub it out to someone who can actually do the work. Problem comes when they spec different to what was asked by the Customer and now can't change because they subbed it out and have no expertise on the product.

Originally Posted by Troy

Carriers without a catapult/arrestor system...are you serious? British wasteofspace didn't get that nickname for nothing. Spent too much time creaming off the Saudis and haven't ever built something on time and within budget. Always black.ailing the government with sob stories and job losses. They sell the RAF and the RN short on every occasion. I could go into very specific details, especially with certain avionics equipment, with some failures costing lives.

No links. I don't need links to tell you how much money they have wasted the UK taxpayer, the thieving fooking bastards.

Why would a carrier with STOVL VTOL and helos need catapults and arrestor gear? So yes, perfectly serious.

You can blame MoD procurement for much of the wastage. Like I said, they are not squeaky clean. What defence/armaments company is?

Building carriers and SSBN in uk keeps those skills current, even if BAE does have a partial monopoly.

Originally Posted by Troy

BAE doing there usual project management business model no doubt. Get the order and sub it out to someone who can actually do the work. Problem comes when they spec different to what was asked by the Customer and now can't change because they subbed it out and have no expertise on the product.

The procurement changes mid contract are usually at the customers request. Don’t know Rheinmetal that well but my guess is mass production of quality steels. Keeping the HQ and manufacturing where the expertise is, is a sensible move for the Germans.
Do they have defence orders at home?

Originally Posted by Switch

Why would a carrier with STOVL VTOL and helos need catapults and arrestor gear? So yes, perfectly serious.

The carriers are only capable of carrying helix and jump jets, no harriers do restricted to the F35...very expensive to buy and operate so numbers will be restricted. A catapult/arrestor system would have allowed for many more options. Originally the catapult was an option but when requested the carrier could no longer be adapted.

You're a delusional, demented, arthritic, fibbing piece of shit, that's what I understand, Twitch.

Originally Posted by stroller

You're a delusional, demented, arthritic, fibbing piece of shit, that's what I understand, Twitch.

Thank you for confirming a new, low level of stupid and ignorant, now put the bottle down and go to bed.

Conservative donors refuse to hand over cash in 'disgust' over Theresa May's leadership and Brexit policy

Originally Posted by foobar

Nigel Farage has admitted two of his children have German passports.
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Their mother is German, what's your point?

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Their mother is German, what's your point?

That would appear almost reasonable but he's separated from his German wife and only applied for their citizenship after the Brexit referendum. The guy's a two faced, snake tongued, toxic shithead with a hittable face. That's the point.

Originally Posted by Switch

I think you will find ...blah blah blah

I think you'll find you're waffling yourself into a deeper hole but carry on, if you must, and if it has relevance to Brexit.

BTW it's Lockheed Martin, has been for over 20 years.

Oh, and good luck with carrier close combat defence using an F-35

Originally Posted by Troy

. The guy's a two faced, snake tongued, toxic shithead with a hittable face. That's the point.

Troy, you've looked up the word politician in the OED ain't you.

Originally Posted by foobar

With all this naval expertise, it is a bit strange the UK is unable to prevent the constant stream of rubber dingies invading the English channel...

And fishermen from France and Spain.

That'll all change in the future giving a brighter future for Britain's fishing towns.

As part of the negotiations, the EU will ask the British Government to maintain the fishing quotas agreed at the bloc’s Agriculture and Fisheries Council last December.

EU chiefs will launch an attempt to guarantee European fishermen access to British waters in the event of a no-deal Brexit, it has emerged.

lol
link?