Brexit - It's Still On!

**Seekingasylum** · 31-10-2017, 10:37 AM

Yeah, letting all of them foreigners in wuz just provocation, innit. All the gubmint's fault. If they weren't doing all them shitty jobs like digging in the fields, slaving away in them factories making our meat pies and cleaning the shit from our old people's arseholes, we would be in clover now, innit. Fahckin' Eu tellin' us all wot to do 'n everyfink.

**buriramboy** · 31-10-2017, 10:40 AM

What the fuk are you going on about, bit early to be on the sauce even for you isn't it?

**Seekingasylum** · 31-10-2017, 10:43 AM

I was parodying your drivel, you fucking idiot.

**buriramboy** · 31-10-2017, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

I was parodying your drivel, you fucking idiot.

So that's your excuse for yet again being shown to be totally clueless.

**Norton** · 31-10-2017, 10:54 AM

The irony of this whole debate is by the time the UK completes it's exit the EU will be forced to change many of it's sovereignty issues. A ready, fire, aim premature referendum for political expediency in hindsight.

**Seekingasylum** · 31-10-2017, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by Norton

The irony of this whole debate is by the time the UK completes it's exit the EU will be forced to change many of it's sovereignty issues. A ready, fire, aim premature referendum for political expediency in hindsight.

Given that most, if not all, supra legislation relates to the heightening of social standards, product and systems safety and environmental protection within member states, the issue of sovereignty is simply not a factor worthy of debate since most member states are comfortable within their own cultures. Sovereignty was only ever raised in Britain as a matter of concern because it threatened the hegemony of the right - wing Tory establishment fascists whose anachronistic old tuskers have been banging on about it for 43 years. No one of any intelligence took any notice of them until last year when the stupid, the deluded, the ignorant, the racist and the merely addled combined in a freak vote. If they had had the referendum in 2005 when all was rosy in the British garden the Brexshit morons would have been kicked into touch.

Generally, the EU modernised Britain and gave it the springboard to escape its economic torpor of the 1970s. Most Brexshitters can't even spell sovereignty.

**taxexile** · 31-10-2017, 03:08 PM

it was thatcher, and thatcher alone that gave britain the wherewithal to escape the economic trough of the 70's you clueless old loon.

an economic trough that was brought about by the same lefty nutjobs that are waiting in the wings right now.

they really did brainwash you in the "civil service" didnt they.

**DrB0b** · 31-10-2017, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

The irony of this whole debate is by the time the UK completes it's exit the EU will be forced to change many of it's sovereignty issues. A ready, fire, aim premature referendum for political expediency in hindsight.

There are no sovereignty issues. That's just propaganda for politically illiterate Brits.

**DrB0b** · 31-10-2017, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by taxexile

an economic trough that was brought about by the same lefty nutjobs that are waiting in the wings right now.

The 1970s recession was brought about by the Arabs and Richard Nixon and was worldwide, you parochial buffoon.

**taxexile** · 31-10-2017, 03:29 PM

there were 2 uk recessions in the 70's. only one of which was due to oil prices.

**DrB0b** · 31-10-2017, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by taxexile

there were 2 uk recessions in the 70's. only one of which was due to oil prices.

I assume that you're referring to the winter of discontent. While Thatcher did stop the strikes and reduce infation it wasn't until Blair brought unemployment down to reasonable levels that that crisis was over. For most of Thatcher's reign much of the country outside London was an economic wasteland.

**Dragonfly** · 31-10-2017, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

Saw an interesting brexit debate on TV the other day. One guy in the debate made a statement I found to be the fundemental issue. He said "I voted yes for reasons of sovereignty not for economic reasons".

Appears the case on this thread as well. For those who voted for reasons of sovereignty, economic predictions be they good or bad fall on deaf ears.

and that's exactly what I have been saying all along, it's a cultural thing and I can perfectly understand it

the UK fails to understand the origin of the EU, it was an economic alliance with a political agenda: stop massive european wars between members, mainly French and Germany, through economic cooperation. And it worked.

The UK has been beaten up by the French during the 100 years war, with both side losing economically and politically at the end. England had no quarels ever since with continentals, au contraire, they tried to be a conciliatory voice globally and directed their energy to commerce wars instead of physical wars. Quite smart those English fookers

so in that regard, they had nothing to do in the EU. It was not built for them in mind. It was built to put together "broken countries" so they could become stronger and peaceful.

The silly islanders were quite comfortable on their own, yet weak economically, which could explain why the fookers had to join the EC, but in truth they shouldn't have.

So Brexit is really a correction of the past, something that should have never happened, we can't be having fooking English tarts join our little gay European club and ruin the party with their little cock shit stirring games

**Dragonfly** · 31-10-2017, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by DrB0b

I assume that you're referring to the winter of discontent. While Thatcher did stop the strikes and reduce infation it wasn't until Blair brought unemployment down to reasonable levels that that crisis was over. For most of Thatcher's reign much of the country outside London was an economic wasteland.

absolutely, Tatcher, that old drunk, was an economic disaster, a nuclear bomb, and we can actually estimate the effects of her policies by prolonging the big UK recession by a full 2 years !!!

it was Tony that saved the day, the other loons before him were as incompetent and toxic as Tatcher the old drunk.

This reminds me of how most of the Chinese still speak highly of Mao and think he did nothing wrong,

**Dragonfly** · 31-10-2017, 04:25 PM

regarding accusation of EU being a socialist state,

well, the main motive of the Soviet Revolution, was for workers around the world (that is Europe) to unite and stop making wars started by their elite for personal reasons. Communism is founded on the concept of hard work and putting human life first before personal interest and of course capital (machinery) and money. For that to happen, you need to destroy the toxic elite, and give the power to the workers, the true force behind economic expansion and success, and therefore peace.

it was a beautiful objective, and hard to go against

in that regard, the origin of the EU was the same, unite economically and stop the toxic political elite in local countries who love to start wars when things go bad economically, and force them instead to have peaceful and meaningful reforms at the EU level

that certainly work in France, and partly destroyed FN. It's quite possible without the EU that FN would be in power already since the late 80s.

So the EU has shielded us from toxic political parties for the last 40 years, yet recently that stopped working and we now see those toxic political parties back in strength, rambling the old demons of the European elite, that is immigration and nationalities. The UK is the first victim. Spain possibly the second. Greece ? definitely

Regardless, this is why we need a stronger EU with more reforms, not a weaker EU.

**taxexile** · 31-10-2017, 04:33 PM

the origin of the Soviet Revolution and Communism, was for workers around the world (that is Europe) to unite and stop making wars started by their elite for personal reasons

remind us again will you, in case some have forgotten, exactly how many people died under stalin and mao thanks to that beautiful objective called communism.

communist states tend to kill their own, rather than outsiders.

be careful what you wish for you deluded french peasant. vous avez le cervau d'un sandwich au fromage !!

**Dragonfly** · 31-10-2017, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by taxexile

remind us again will you, in case some have forgotten, exactly how many people died under stalin and mao thanks to that beautiful objective called communism.

communist states tend to kill their own, rather than outsiders.

be careful what you wish for you deluded french peasant. vous avez le cervau d'un sandwich au fromage !!

Remind us again how many people those peace loving capitalists have killed ? England, USA etc... ?

Mao and Stalin used communism as a political tool for their murderous agenda, not the first time

men have always used religions and ideology, no matter how peaceful and meaningful those ideology were, for their own personal agenda, and twisted things around

we have another example these days, ISIS, using Islam, a peaceful religion, into a murderous weapon of Mass Destruction using humans as their main source of weaponry

the usual retards will blame Islam, or communism, for the effects, failing to see who is behind

so are you one of those usual retards, tax ? I hope not

**taxexile** · 31-10-2017, 04:51 PM

idealogical socialism has never been successful, it seeks to control and mould, it goes against the human spirit.

the eu seeks to homogenise 27 different cultures into one, and with one or two powerful countries always seeking to exert their power and impose their will over the rest, it is doomed to fail. it opposes and suppresses the basic human instincts of the less powerful and promotes the basic human instincts of the powerful.

it is a metaphor for life. and as we all know ..... life is pain, often irreconcilable pain.

**PAG** · 31-10-2017, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by taxexile

it is a metaphor for life. and as we all know ..... life is pain, often irreconcilable pain.

You weren't Lawrence Olivier's technical advisor in the film "Marathon Man" were you Tax?

**taxexile** · 31-10-2017, 05:05 PM

sadly, no.

**DrB0b** · 31-10-2017, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by taxexile

communist states tend to kill their own, rather than outsiders.

The fact that at least one communist state killed millions of outsiders accounts for your not speaking German as your daily language.

**harrybarracuda** · 31-10-2017, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by DrB0b

The fact that at least one communist state killed millions of outsiders accounts for your not speaking German as your daily language.

Wow there's a whole Wiki page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_k...munist_regimes

**Seekingasylum** · 31-10-2017, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by PAG

You weren't Lawrence Olivier's technical advisor in the film "Marathon Man" were you Tax?

Is it safe?

**taxexile** · 31-10-2017, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by DrB0b

The fact that at least one communist state killed millions of outsiders accounts for your not speaking German as your daily language.

That a strange way to defend communism.

there is a vast difference between acting to suppress internal dissension and acting to defend ones country from invasion.

**Seekingasylum** · 31-10-2017, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by taxexile

it was thatcher, and thatcher alone that gave britain the wherewithal to escape the economic trough of the 70's you clueless old loon.

an economic trough that was brought about by the same lefty nutjobs that are waiting in the wings right now.

they really did brainwash you in the "civil service" didnt they.

You truly cannot drill down below the surface of anything very much, you Brexit tooth pullers.

Look, Thatcher was the means by which the impediment to progress was overcome. Once the sclerotic management practices of post-war industrial relations appeasement were laid waste and the unions dislodged from their barricades of hidebound obduracy, the road to modernisation was clear and it was under the EU guiding hand that the way has been negotiated to the point whereby Britain achieved 5-7th largest economy in the world.

Of course, now under Brexit, we are to engage reverse gear and back ourselves into a past riven with nostalgia and delusion and reap the whirlwind of lumpen British stupidity.

Quite amusing really, but you folk with your wealth tied up in the stock markets, currently hostage to the worst bear market in history, are facing armageddon. Labour anti-austerity policies for the untermensch are going to kill you Tax.

On the other hand, inflation and rising interest rates are my friend.

**taxexile** · 31-10-2017, 05:42 PM

Labour anti-austerity policies for the untermensch are going to kill you Tax.

i believe i have taken adequate measures, within existing legislation of course, to ensure that none, or at least very little of my hard earned goes towards propping up the lifestyles of the sort of feckless rabid shouty socialist trash that seem to be all over the place these days.

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