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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    The sticky point is the border within Ireland. Expecting the EU to accept an open border unconditionally is ludicrous. Setting up that trap is the own doing by the UK.
    It's bollocks. Tory filth in bed with eh DUP caused the problem. NI voted to stay in Europe. So let them stay in, and out of the United Kingdom.

    United Ireland.


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    Lets see how the DUP will fit in to the mainstream politics of ROI.

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    John Bercow has put the cat amongst the pigeons by allowing a debate and vote on the Grieve amendment. If passed, and May fails to get her agreement through, she'll have to come back within 3 days with a solution instead of 21 days.

    Good man. Let's kill off no-deal brexit next.

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    It doesn't kill off no deal, how many times does it need explaini g to you no deal is the default option, if a deal is not passed by parliament then we leave on 29 March with no deal.

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    I think the word next was a clue....

    The default can be blocked, unless explicitly decided in parliament.

    Do keep up old boy...

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    the no deal exit will be voted out by MPs if we come to that, so basically no exit, no May deal

    game over Brexit,

    can't let that fooking happen

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    Another Government defeat. Grieve amendment voted through. No easy running down of the clock to no-deal Brexit. Still need a few more amendments to go through and May agreement to be defeated but obviously the government is playing on a sticky wicket now.

    Time to kill off no-deal.

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    They can only stop no deal by agreeing Doris deal or extending or revoking A50. It's law, it's on the statute books via an act of Parliament we leave on March 29.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    They can only stop no deal by agreeing Doris deal or extending or revoking A50. It's law, it's on the statute books via an act of Parliament we leave on March 29.
    Extending or revoking A50 with a 2nd referendum or not.

    Anything can happen within the law...

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    some interesting comments on the BBC over this new government defeat:

    "Yep... parliament is taking back control.... Brexit ain't happening"

    "Brexit will bring back the power of decision to Westminster...there you are.


    if you believe that than you have been sold right down the English channel.
    not sure if you read that we are maintaining all of the current EU laws and more. read the small print my friend "

    "I notice on PMQ's that once again the SNP are more concerned with the fate of foreign nationals after 2020 within the UK than with UK citizens themselves! Typical lefty hand-wringer whinging, they'll not be happy until the culture of this country is turned over and every spare inch of ground is given over to immigrants. If the EU is so good, why not pack your bags and go and live in their culture?"

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    Chass has ben busy again on the BBC website

    "I think Hitler would be proud of remoaners in 2019"

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    this is hilarious

    that speaker dude is awesome

    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-polit...ngs-to-my-wife

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    The defeat last night wasn't as big as I was hoping. Not as many Tory rebels, which means the May agreement might be closer than thought. With the DUP opposing it could end up under 50, allowing it to come back again and again...and again

    John Bercow did well yesterday, fending off the points of order, but he might have overstepped the mark a little. However, it was pointed out in several comments that he overstepped in having the referendum in the first place. Tories shooting themselves in the foot again.
    Last edited by Troy; 10-01-2019 at 08:45 AM.

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    All EU members have to agree to A50 being extended let's hops they don't as looks like that's where we are heading now.

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    ^ Reports suggest they'll only agree an extension if there is another referendum or a GE.

    PM May has said no to both ideas but she's weak and has said no before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    All EU members have to agree to A50 being extended let's hops they don't as looks like that's where we are heading now.
    The EU have already indicated that no extension will be offered in order to afford time to simply re-negotiate the existing deal. However, they have confirmed a delay would be automatically approved if the UK wanted the time to arrange a second referendum.

    The loony Kipper nazis and Tory extremists are increasingly being marginalised as the stupidity of Brexit becomes more apparent to the ignorant dickwads who voted for it. The only way out is to vote again.

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    Another referendum is an affront to democracy, however I'm not against a GE and parties are free to put in their manifesto they will call another referendum and let's see how they get on. Form a government on the back of a pro EU manifesto then you are welcome to another referendum.

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    Affront to democracy, my arse. Half the Brexit scum couldn't fucking spell Strasbourg, never mind tell you where the fuck it is. The first referendum was a freak result manipulated through deceitful rhetoric peddled by crooks and tenth rate politicians, and by a criminal breach of our suffrage laws. If parliament decides a second referendum is the right thing then it's fucking democratic, you thick-headed twat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Another referendum is an affront to democracy,
    I would have thought the opposite was true. That is, not allowing another referendum is an affront to democracy.

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    Even Johnson and Farage were astonished by the vote - no one ever truly thought the British were that fucking stupid as to believe their lies and propaganda but there you go, Brits are really no better than coons and Alabama swamp dwellers in the 'fuckwitz are us' democracy stakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    I would have thought the opposite was true. That is, not allowing another referendum is an affront to democracy.
    A bunch of bitter losers who can't accept the result of the first referendum decide to call another one with no mandate from the people of course it's an affront to democracy. Call a GE stand on a pro EU manifesto and see how you go. But of course remoaners don't like this option as no way a party calling for another referendum will win an election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Even Johnson and Farage were astonished by the vote - no one ever truly thought the British were that fucking stupid as to believe their lies and propaganda but there you go, Brits are really no better than coons and Alabama swamp dwellers in the 'fuckwitz are us' democracy stakes.
    It's nothing to do with people believing the likes of Farage and Johnson or any shit written on a bus. That you still fail to grasp and understand why people voted leave is why leave will win again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    John Bercow did well yesterday, fending off the points of order, but he might have overstepped the mark a little. However, it was pointed out in several comments t.
    John Bercow should have been sacked moons ago, the man is an affront to democracy who's plethora of fuck ups and close calls throughout his tenure would have seen any normal employee sacked - yet more evidence of politicians being out of step with the public and protected.

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    Do I detect a hint of bitterness from the Brexiteers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Do I detect a hint of bitterness from the Brexiteers?
    No, a hint of disgust at unprecedented action by a person who is supposed to act neutrally and who has yet again demonstrated he cannot by siding with his personal political persuasion. That's a problem for democracy and sets a dangerous precedent, nothing to do with Brexit Troy,, surely you can see that and past all the apologists queueing up to vindicate his actions yesterday.

    I've said before I am fairly agnostic but what is clear is that the side you favour Troy have consistently parked or ignored due Democratic process because they disagreed with the result - yet here you remain content to smirk along with them.

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