Thread: Mueller's Russian Interference investigation

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I think perhaps you misunderstand the meaning of the word "imply".

Try "State".

On the evidence of it there are a lot of things that he misunderstands: the difference between fact and opinion; logic and logically fallacies; left and right shoes... for example.

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by redhaze

How old are you Ray?

i'm in my 40s. i met ant about 10 years back when i was in my 30s

i suppose i could ask you your age....but i honestly don't care.

what i do care about is the casual racism that for some reason you and your "bros" feel entitled to post on TD.

Originally Posted by redhaze

That's meme common and basically sitcom tame.

right.

i don't get the stormfront network...but OK, what sitcom is that?

let me make it simple for you, sport....it's racist and you know it.

your anonymity on an internet message board gives you the "courage" to post it....that's it.

you'd never say it in a public.....at least not without looking over your shoulder first.

What the fuck is all this faggotry.

Dear god I love it when middle age white fuckboys white knight African Americans.

Please, tell us all more about your black experience and all your black friends

Your level of pussyness is fucking cataclysmic and should be illegal.

let’s review what we’ve learned about Kushner. He is among several Trump administration officials and associates to have acknowledged, long after the fact, his contacts with then-Russian Ambassador to the United States Sergei Kislyak. In one such previously undisclosed meeting with Kislyak, Kushner reportedly sought to establish a covert backchannel with Moscow, employing Russian communication equipment in an apparent effort to evade U.S. surveillance. At the ambassador’s request, moreover, Kushner also met with the head of a Russian bank under U.S. sanctions, a discussion that went unreported for months. The banker, Sergei Gorkov, has close ties to Russia’s intelligence services.

In recent days, moreover, the Trump administration confirmed that Kushner also attended a June 9, 2016, meeting with a Russian, who—in an email forwarded to Kushner—was described as a “government lawyer” privy to Moscow’s effort to denigrate Hillary Clinton and advantage Trump. In the face of persistent questions, Trump administration officials had—until last weekend—maintained for months that no campaign operatives had held any meetings with Russians. Kushner, it seems, was content to allow his White House colleagues to make liars of themselves as he left himself open to being compromised by the Kremlin, which has almost certainly known the truth all along.

Why Does Jared Kushner Still Have a Security Clearance? - POLITICO Magazine

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

I'm not involved in any investigation of it or determination of outcome. Like everyone else I have to wait until it's concluded

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

On the evidence of it there are a lot of things that he misunderstands: the difference between fact and opinion; logic and logically fallacies; left and right shoes... for example.

wow! good to hear that you agree with harry and now you state that the don jr. meeting is evidence of the russians and the trump campaign conspiring to defeat hillary.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

ant: "i imply with every post i think think there's evidence of collusion with the don jr. meeting but am afraid to say it directly."

I think perhaps you misunderstand the meaning of the word "imply".

Try "State".

good to see that harry gave you the confidence to take a stand, ant.

or did he?

even a few people at FOX have had enough of the trump administration lies...

why are they all lying...repeatedly?

it's because they've made the calculation that the potential for getting caught in the lies is not nearly as bad as the truth.

^ Yep.

Drip. Drip.

Trump Hires New Lawyer Amid Russia Investigation

President Donald Trump is adding to his growing roster of lawyers handling investigations into Russian interference in the 2016 election, NBC News confirmed Friday.

Veteran Washington lawyer Ty Cobb is the latest to join the president's legal team, a White House official said. Cobb will spearhead responses to media inquiries related to the ongoing Russia probes and he will work closely with attorney Marc Kasowitz, who is leading the Trump team.

Trump Hires New Lawyer Amid Russia Investigation - NBC News

^^Wasn't that clearly the entire point of the meeting? He was going there to get dirt on Hillary. Is that even being debated? I just can't....keep up with the stupid anymore.

Also you switched from saying "you won't say whether he will be convicted" to something completely different but it sounds you still think you are saying the same thing. Or something....

do we have a definitive list of who was in room at trump tower on june 9th 2016?

it is now being reported that there were 8 people in the room....but who are they?

we know there were 3 americans...

li'l donny
jared
campaign chair paul manafort.

who were the other 5?

were they all russians?

Originally Posted by redhaze

Wasn't that clearly the entire point of the meeting? He was going there to get dirt on Hillary.

getting dirt from someone who's a friend of a friend who says they have evidence that the dnc got money from the russians is much different from the trump campaign conspiring with "the russians" to defeat hillary, red.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

getting dirt from someone who's a friend of a friend who says they have evidence that the dnc got money from the russians is much different from the trump campaign conspiring with "the russians" to defeat hillary, red.

It's clear that you either haven't actually read the emails or, if you have, are deliberately misrepresenting the content and context.

That's FRT's goal and intent: obfuscation and muddying of the waters. He just bounces from one fallacy to the next.

Meanwhile the son of the POTUS, son-in-law and top advisor, and then campaign head really did meet with someone they believed to be representing the Russian government for the purpose of obtaining incriminating information on a political opponent and then repeatedly lied about it.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Meanwhile the son of the POTUS, son-in-law and top advisor, and then campaign head really did meet with someone they believed to be representing the Russian government for the purpose of obtaining incriminating information on a political opponent and then repeatedly lied about it.

that's your take on the meeting.

and ant,

you're still not willing to say that is evidence that the trump campaign conspired with the russians to defeat hillary, right?

ant: "i state with every post i think think there's evidence of collusion [between the trump campaign and the russians] with the don jr. meeting."

yes or no?

Still haven't read the emails have you.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

that's your take on the meeting.

No that's actually what happened

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

that's your take on the meeting.

tighten up

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Still haven't read the emails have you.

yes, it says that don jr. is interested in info "that would incriminate hillary and her dealings with russia".

https://twitter.com/donaldjtrumpjr/s...89418455953413

Originally Posted by redhaze

No that's actually what happened

do you think ant needs a "bro" to help him?

why don't you ask ant why he won't say the don jr. meeting is evidence of russia conspiring with the trump campaign to defeat hillary?

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

yes, it says that don jr. is interested in info "that would incriminate hillary and her dealings with russia".

https://twitter.com/donaldjtrumpjr/s...89418455953413

Indeed. So why are you trying to deny the facts of what happened.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

why don't you ask ant why he won't say the don jr. meeting is evidence of russia conspiring with the trump campaign to defeat hillary?

Why don't you try another straw man (that one is really dumb) and stop trying to hold posters responsible for what you've fallaciously attributed to other posters.

Redhaze was simply pointing out a fact that you keep denying.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

do you think ant needs a "bro" to help him?

I'm actually trying to help you. If you understood the basic tenants of the story you could argue it better.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

why don't you ask ant why he won't say the don jr. meeting is evidence of russia conspiring with the trump campaign to defeat hillary?

Because I don't give a shit

Originally Posted by redhaze

If you understood the basic tenants of the story

are this:

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

it says that don jr. is interested in info "that would incriminate hillary and her dealings with russia".

https://twitter.com/donaldjtrumpjr/s...89418455953413

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Indeed. So why are you trying to deny the facts of what happened.

i've asked you before and will ask you again:

how is don jr. being interested in info that russia gave money/support to the dnc

evidence of the trump campaign and russia conspiring to defeat hillary?

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

yes, it says that don jr. is interested in info "that would incriminate hillary and her dealings with russia".

https://twitter.com/donaldjtrumpjr/s...89418455953413

That post makes no sense. And you are linking to Donald Trump Jr's twitter account. And the link doesn't work.

go to don jr.'s twiiter page where he posted all the email exchange.

https://www.google.co.th/search?q=don+jr.+emails+to+russians&oq=don&aqs=chr ome.0.69i59j69i60l2j69i57j69i60j69i59.1336j0j7&{go ogle:bookmarkBarPinned}sourceid=chrome&{googlemniboxStartMarginParameter}ie=UTF-8#q=don+jr.+trump+twiiter+emails+to+russians