Thread: Was Jesus a Muslim?

From what I saw and heard while working in the mid east.

A woman for procreation..

A Boy for pleasure.

Does that answer your question??

Originally Posted by Looper

Don't know about condom rules but I know a muslim woman cannot take a muslim man's todger in her mouth unless he has been circumcised by a halal butcher.

Well I just asked this question on the message board 'Holy Jihad' & this was their response.

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.


Dear brother FatboyEric in Islam, we would like to thank you for showing keenness on learning the teachings of Islam re. oral sex with our women, and we appreciate the great confidence you have in us. We hope our efforts meet your expectations.

As for oral sex then, it is only permitted as a way of stimulation and foreplay. Scholars say that it is Makrooh to do it with the intention of ejaculating in wife’s mouth. This is based on the jurists’ views regarding the impurity of sperm and Madhy. Anyway, if a husband does have oral sex with his wife, and ejaculates sperm, then Ghusl is obligatory; however, if he only releases Madhy then Wudu’ is only required, and the wife has to wash the Madhy away because it is Najis.

That clears that up then! No mention of butchers.

Whoever changed the title of this thread, the question mark after the original thread title puts it out there as a question of Was Jesus A Muslim in the first place.

All diddly do aside boys, we're in present times.



A super cool Christian boy band!



And just look how nice that priest is being to that preteen boy!

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by floorpotato

Absolutely. I'm not sure if Jesus would buy into the jihads and public executions encouraged in the Koran

Out of interest where, exactly, does it encourage jihads and public executions in the Koran?And how does that compare to the 'eye for an eye', 'stonings for harlotry' of the Old Testament in any event?

I agree that the Old Testament is filled with violence, much as the Koran. The essay by Schopenhauer that I was referring to claims that the New and Old Testament represent separate philosophies that do not belong together. He does not consider the Old Testament to be representative of Jesus. As far as promotion of violence in the Koran against those who violate the laws of Islam, I don't own a Koran, but I do remember reading specific passages in many sources over the years.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

^
Much quicker to say: "I don't know", Earl.

I think we "know" when Jesus lived.
I think we also "know" when Mohamed lived.
What part of that don't you cognate?
Are unable to count to 6? As in 6 centuries?

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

I think we "know" when Jesus lived. I think we also "know" when Mohamed lived. What part of that don't you [sic] cognate? Are unable to count to 6? As in 6 centuries?

What has any of that got to do with anything? This is what I said:

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Out of interest where, exactly, does it encourage jihads and public executions in the Koran? And how does that compare to the 'eye for an eye', 'stonings for harlotry' of the Old Testament in any event?

This is what you replied with immediately following:

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Yes but it's a real feat for Jesus of Nazareth to be a Muslim 6 centuries before Mohamed!

You changed the topic without answering the question, Earl. Or were you just talking to yourself?

So counting has nothing to do with anything. However if you want to talk basic skills, look up "cognate". Actually on further thought, you should just post in smilies. It's about the only time you make any sense.

All wars are around religion. If there was a god , mohamed or buddha why does he let people suffer so terribly.

All the evil is supposed to be perpatrated by the devil.

He was a musjew

Evil Kneivel

wasn't jesus gay?

St. Mark's gospel --which is still the subject of academic dispute-- alludes to Jesus having a homosexual relationship with a youth he raised from the dead.
According to the U.S. Biblical scholar, Morton Smith, of Columbia University, a fragment of manuscript he found at the Mar Saba monastery near Jerusalem in 1958, showed that the full text of St. Mark chapter 10 (between verses 34 and 35 in the standard version of the Bible) contains a passage which includes the following text. --
"And the youth, looking upon him (Jesus), loved him and beseeched that he might remain with him. And going out of the tomb, they went into the house of the youth, for he was rich. And after six days, Jesus instructed him and, at evening, the youth came to him wearing a linen cloth over his naked body. And he remained with him that night, for Jesus taught him the mystery of the Kingdom of God".

Originally Posted by raycarey

wasn't jesus gay?

I think he was

Originally Posted by keda

Originally Posted by Umbuku

There are many similarities between Jesus's life, character and teachings and the Buddha as well.

Many similarities between loads of them...make what you will of it but Agni, Balder, Krishna, Hercules, Samson, Jonah, Osiris, Bacchus, Mithra, Hermes, Buddha, Jesus, Quetzalcoatl, Codom, Prometheus, Zoroaster, Perseus, Laotse, Fo Hi, Horus and Rameses all are gods or figureheads which had gods or godlike figures for fathers, and each of their mothers were virgins; almost all their births were announced by stars and voices declared that a blessing had come to earth. All are said to have fasted forty days, nearly all were followed and worshipped by wise men and met a violent death. Tyrants sought to destroy each in his infancy, and all were born in December, on the 25th day of the month. All rose from the dead.


Must be coincidences running a bit wild.

Check out:

The Masks of God

His massive four-volume work The Masks of God covers mythology from around the world, from ancient to modern. Where The Hero with a Thousand Faces focused on the commonality of mythology (the “elementary ideas”), the Masks of God books focus upon historical and cultural variations the monomyth takes on (the “folk ideas”). In other words, where The Hero with a Thousand Faces draws perhaps more from psychology, the Masks of God books draw more from anthropology and history. The four volumes of Masks of God are as follows: Primitive Mythology, Oriental Mythology, Occidental Myth, and Creative Mythology.

Joseph Campbell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jesus was all things to all men, he may have been a shirt lifter.

.... is strong evidence that the Secret Gospel of Mark was
in fact the complete version of Mark, and what we have is the
edited version by the Church fathers. Barnstone at 340 lists as
being visible signs of this editing process Mark 4:ll; 9:25-27;
10:21, 32,38-39; 12:32-34; 14:51-52. What, then, were these
"true things" that the Church fathers hoped to hide from the
untutored eyes of the average Christian? What was the
unspeakable?

St. Clement quotes from this complete, "Secret Gospel of Mark"
at length towards the end of his letter. Clement in the last third
of his letter to Theodore wrote: "To you, therefore I shall not
hesitate to answer the questions you have asked refuting the
falsifications by the very words of the [Secret] Gospel (Barnstone
342). "And they come into Bethany. And a certain woman whose
brother had died was there. And she prostrated herself before
Jesus and says to him, Son of David, have mercy on me. But the
disciples rebuked her. And Jesus, being angered, went off with
her unto the garden where the tomb was, and straightway a
great cry was heard from the tomb. And going near, Jesus
rolled away the stone from the door of the tomb. And
straightway, going in where the youth was, he stretched forth
his hand and raised him, seizing his hand. But the youth,
looking upon him, loved him and began to beseech him that he
might be with him. And going out of the tomb they came into the
house of the youth, for he was rich. And after six days Jesus
told him what to do and in the evening the youth came
to him, wearing a linen cloth over his naked body. And
he remained with him that night, for Jesus taught him
the mystery of the Kingdom of God. And thence, arising, he
returned to the other side of the Jordan."

After these words follows the text, And James and John come to
him, and all that section. But naked man with naked man,
and the other things about which you wrote, are not found."

And after the words, And he comes into Jericho, the secret
Gospel adds only, And the sister of the youth whom Jesus
loved, and his mother and Salome were there, and Jesus did
not receive them. But many other things about which you wrote
both seem to be and are falsifications. Now the true
explanation and that which accords with the true
philosophy." [1] This passage quoted by Clemens from the
Gospel, could be interpreted as an account of a baptism
preformed by Jesus on this young ladand some dobut for 3
facts. One that Clements and the Church fathers not only
suppressed the passage but found it scandalous. Second, the
plain meaning of the words naked man with naked man and
whom Jesus loved support the conclusion that Sexual union
with a man as part of the sacrament was practiced. Third, that
it was a practice of some Christian sects for to have (like in
Tantra Yoga) to engage in sexual intercourse as part of a union
with God. Such was said of some Christian communities. There
are passages in the Pauline Epistles which admonishing certain
unnamed sexual practices and there is a letter from a Roman
physician describing in detail this practice. Morton Smith, the
discoverer of the letter writes: Freedom from the [Mosaic] law
may have resulted in completion of the spiritual union by
physical union.

This certainly occurred in many forms of Gnostic Christianity;
how early it began there is no telling (Morton Smith, The
Secret Gospel, p. 94, The Secret Gospel: The Discovery and
Interpretation of the Secret Gospel according to Mark. New
York: Harper & Row, 1973). From the tone of the letter of
Clement, the fact that are present Gospel of Mark is incomplete
in a way that indicates deliberate suppression of passages, and
from the quoted passages of in the letter, and from the practices
of early Christian communities it is quite reasonable to conclude
that the Secret Gospel of Mark described the sexual union of
Jesus with a young disciple.

Jesus Was Gay According to Mark--jk & Prof Smith

Originally Posted by raycarey

wasn't jesus gay?

Then why are his followers so angry?

Jesus was gay!
Mohammed (I will fu* anything including a donkey) a child molester!

Got it....?

Well, at least he wasn't a necrophiliac!

Originally Posted by sledge

All wars are around religion. If there was a god , mohamed or buddha why does he let people suffer so terribly.

Most wars are concerned with power and economic gain.

Religion and nationalism/patriotism are just used to get the cannon fodder with the program.

If it's a Christian war are they Canon fodder? (sorry!)

^ Virgin births / Messiahs, etc., are common to many cultures/creeds/religions.