Thread: President Donald Trump

Trump wants to hide complaints about Wall Street - NZ Herald

TL;DR - basically the Trump admin wants to roll-back public access to a database that tracks and monitors complaints about companies that offer financial products and services - you know, so they can make an informed choice about where to invest their money.

Remind me again... This was the billionaire that was going to look after the 'little people', right? Or was that another rich, entitled, white guy I'm thinking of??

covfefe

But Trump, too, is cognizant of the comparison to Nixon, according to one adviser. The president, who friends said does not enjoy living in Washington and is strained by the demanding hours of the job, is motivated to carry on because he “doesn’t want to go down in history as a guy who tried and failed,” said the adviser. “He doesn’t want to be the second president in history to resign.”

Trump threatens to break the glass on DOJ succession plan - POLITICO

Now that sounds truthful...

^ More fake news. He is not going to resign, just get that fantasy out of your silly little heads.

Originally Posted by CSFFan

But Trump, too, is cognizant of the comparison to Nixon, according to one adviser. The president, who friends said does not enjoy living in Washington and is strained by the demanding hours of the job, is motivated to carry on because he “doesn’t want to go down in history as a guy who tried and failed,” said the adviser. “He doesn’t want to be the second president in history to resign.”

Trump threatens to break the glass on DOJ succession plan - POLITICO

Now that sounds truthful...

He will certainly go down in history as the guy who totally sucked. You can't take that away from him.

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

CEOs to Trump: You're failing - Jun. 15, 2017

President Trump loved to brag during the campaign about his business skills. Now that he's in charge, business leaders seem alarmed by Trump's political skills.

"A stunning 50% of the CEOs, business execs, government officials and academics surveyed at the annual Yale CEO Summit give Trump an "F" for his first 130 days in office.

The survey, released earlier this week, found that another 21% give Trump's performance a "D" so far. Just 1% of the 125 leaders polled awarded the billionaire an "A."

The overarching message from CEOs is: "Stop the random 3 a.m. tweets and stop the needless brushfires diverting from the agenda," said Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, the Yale School of Management professor who led the summit.

Sonnenfeld noted that 80% of those surveyed are CEOs, including Blackstone (BX) CEO Steve Schwarzman and IBM (IBM, Tech30) boss Ginni Rometty, who sit on Trump's advisory council and Merck (MRK) CEO Ken Frazier, a member of the president's manufacturing initiative. (Individual responses by each CEO were not released.)

"This was not a granola-eating crowd of Democrat entrepreneurs. It's a cross-section of the business community, including some who are quite pro-Trump," he said.

The Yale findings are the latest evidence that some pockets of the business community are growing disenchanted with Trump as his administration struggles to implement its economic agenda amid scandal and missteps.

Earlier this month, Trump's withdrawal from the Paris climate accord sparked an unprecedented revolt by CEOs. Business leaders led by Tesla (TSLA)founder Elon Musk, Disney CEO Bob Iger and JPMorgan Chase boss Jamie Dimon publicly bashed the decision. Goldman Sachs (GS) CEO Lloyd Blankfein even sent his first-ever tweet to slam the move as a "setback" for U.S. leadership in the world.

CEOs surveyed by Yale agree with that sentiment. Two-thirds of respondents indicated that Trump's decision to pull out of the Paris climate accord diminished America's global standing. Another 86% expressed concern about Trump minimizing Russian security mischief.

Business leaders are not impressed with Trump's budget either. Three-fourths of survey respondents said the administration's budget proposal is not sound.

Corporate America's poor marks for Trump have not spread to Wall Street, at least not yet.

Trump's promises to slash taxes, ramp up infrastructure spending and cut regulation have fired up investors. The Dow has surged roughly 3,000 points since Trump's election and it hit yet another record on Wednesday.

Yet Trump's economic agenda has been stalled due to opposition from Democrats and Republican infighting. Wall Street has dialed back its expectations for the size and timing of the tax reform Trump promised.

CEOs don't think it's a slam dunk. Just 42% of leaders surveyed by Yale think Trump will pass corporate tax reform.

David Bianco, chief investment strategist at Deutsche Asset Management, warned this week about the impact of the political trouble on stocks soon.

The Trump rally is "vulnerable to summer fatigue and rising anxiety over whether Congress can make pragmatic decisions," Bianco warned in a report this week. He advised clients to be safe by moving some money from stocks to bonds.

"We think (the rally) has reached its near-term limits," Bianco wrote".

For once this is a reasonable critique. I don't agree entirely, but I understand the sentiment.

The rest of Trump's presidency hinges on him being able to get at least some of his legislative agenda enacted. If he can get healthcare through, then he can move on to tax reform, infrastructure and the wall.

If he manages this, even partly, he will have set the republicans up nicely for 2018, all the infantile dims have in response is to keep screaming about 'teh russians' and praying he will be assassinated, it will be a rout.

If he doesn't get anything through, then yes, he is in a much more precarious position, however even then, all the dims have is 'teh russians', its not exactly inspiring, but might be enough to get more of their base out than the republicans.

Originally Posted by Longway

For once this is a reasonable critique

You invested not insignificant time and energy into promoting whack-job theories about colostomy bags and pizza shop pedophile rings and you've been one of the chief Trump Turd Polishers(TM) on here.

I say this because I doubt anyone really gives a toss about what you do/don't think is a "reasonable critique" at this point.

From Robert Reich:

"Question 1: Why are the Pentagon and State Department refusing to join Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates in blaming and isolating Qatar?

A. America's largest airbase in the region is in Qatar.
B. The Pentagon and State Department want our allies in the Middle East to remain united against the Islamic State.
C. There’s little evidence that Qatar is fueling terrorism and any more than Saudi Arabia and UAE are fueling it.

Question #2. So why is Trump saying he’s backing Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates against Qatar, because Qatar is “a funder of terror at a very high level”?

A. Trump just wants to take a position different from his Secretary of State and Secretary of Defense for no reason.
B. Trump has done business with royals from Saudi Arabia for at least 20 years, since he sold the Plaza Hotel to a partnership formed by a Saudi prince. And he has earned millions of dollars from the United Arab Emirates for putting his name on a golf course, with a second soon to open. But he’s never been able to enter the booming market in neighboring Qatar, despite years of trying.

Answers: Question 1: A, B, and C. Question 2: B.

What do you think?".

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/17/w...nces.html?_r=0

Trump’s Business Ties in the Gulf Raise Questions About His Allegiances

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Originally Posted by Storekeeper

What do you think?".

I think Trump's gonna end up making Nixon look like a boy scout.

Trump seems to lack any sense of right and wrong.
Reminds me of a cartoon I saw years ago. The setting is a courtroom and the lawyer is saying to the judge "excuse me your honour while I explain the concept of guilt to my client".

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

From Robert Reich:

"Question 1: Why are the Pentagon and State Department refusing to join Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates in blaming and isolating Qatar?

A. America's largest airbase in the region is in Qatar.
B. The Pentagon and State Department want our allies in the Middle East to remain united against the Islamic State.
C. There’s little evidence that Qatar is fueling terrorism and any more than Saudi Arabia and UAE are fueling it.

Question #2. So why is Trump saying he’s backing Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates against Qatar, because Qatar is “a funder of terror at a very high level”?

A. Trump just wants to take a position different from his Secretary of State and Secretary of Defense for no reason.
B. Trump has done business with royals from Saudi Arabia for at least 20 years, since he sold the Plaza Hotel to a partnership formed by a Saudi prince. And he has earned millions of dollars from the United Arab Emirates for putting his name on a golf course, with a second soon to open. But he’s never been able to enter the booming market in neighboring Qatar, despite years of trying.

Answers: Question 1: A, B, and C. Question 2: B.

What do you think?".

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/17/w...nces.html?_r=0

Trump’s Business Ties in the Gulf Raise Questions About His Allegiances

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You forget the Sec of State has some interest in ExxonMobil's $30 billion Qatar investment. That could possibly be swaying his attitude to the whole thing.

"...The hypocrisy is incredible. Under President Trump, civilian casualties in the war against ISIS have skyrocketed. 3,800 innocent people have died from American bombs since Trump took office, as a newly empowered military uses bigger and bigger bombs on civilian areas.

On top of that, in the past few months, President Trump has publicly praised Rodrigo Duterte of the Phillippines, whose death squads have slaughtered thousands of people in the past few months; Erdogan Recep Tayyip of Turkey, who holds tens of thousands of political prisoners and subjects them to torture and rape in his prisons and is waging an ethnic cleansing campaign against the Kurds in the southeast, and King Salman of Saudi Arabia, who is orchestrating a blockade of Yemen that is leaving millions starving while he slaughters thousands with his American-bought weapons.

So it comes as no surprise that the government of Cuba was quick to point out this ridiculous double standard, stating that the United States is in “no condition to lecture” them about human rights in a lengthy statement:

“We have deep concerns by the respect and the guarantees of the human rights in that country, where there is a large number of cases of murder, brutality and police abuse, particularly against the African Americans; the right to live is violated as a result of deaths by firearms.”

CNN reports that the government of Raul Castro went on to criticize Trump for a whole host of other human rights violations, including “salary inequality between genders, the marginalization of immigrants and refugees from Islamic and other countries, Trump’s proposed wall on the southern border, his decision to pull out of the Paris climate accord, the imprisonment of enemy combatants at Guantanamo Bay, the killing of US and foreign citizens in drone attacks, the preface for and conduct of the wars in Iraq and other Middle Eastern countries, and estimates that the Republican health care bill would cause 23 million people to lose medical insurance.”

http://washingtonjournal.com/…/trump-just-broke-off-relati…/

“We have deep concerns by the respect and the guarantees of the human rights in that country, where there is a large number of cases of murder, brutality and police abuse, particularly against the African Americans; the right to live is violated as a result of deaths by firearms.”

Those Commie bastards have a point.

Trump's lawyer is trying the Jedi mind trick...

One of President Trump’s attorneys on Sunday insisted “there is not an investigation of the president of the United States, period.”

Trump attorney: There's no investigation of the president, period | TheHill

Nobody wants to be stained by an association with ole Mango Mussolini.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.a55749398b61

Help wanted: Why Republicans won’t work for the Trump administration

"But as the president continues to sow doubts about his loyalty to those who work for him, most recently with his tweets on Friday that appeared to attack Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein, a number of qualified candidates say they see little upside to joining government at this time. They include eight Republicans who said they turned down job offers out of concern that working for this administration could damage their reputation".

Open link to read the entire article.

There are three things - two intrinsic, one external - about this tweet that make it classic Trump:

1) he is utterly obsessed with his own poll numbers (and Obama);

2) it is, of course, not actually true; and

3) his supporters still won't care that he's a giant orange baby, raging narcissist, and liar and will go out of their way to lower the bar even further to make excuses for him.

"Trumpeteers are ignorant, hypocritical anti-intellectual trolls, and should be treated as such. At this point, the 35% or so who are truly still with him are unreachable, unworthy of being reached, and deserving of only one thing: political defeat, utter and complete without the least degree of mercy. They should be able to live their lives in the little Christo-fascist white nationalist fantasy of the mind that they inhabit...but this country does not belong to them and they cannot have it. They must lose. Period. No compromise. No power sharing. Defeat. Modernity wins, they lose. That is all". (Tim Wise)

Trump supporters' jaw-dropping hypocrisy (opinion) - CNN.com

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Originally Posted by David48atTD

distancing himself from Trump?

Pretty sure he's laying low til the storm passes. He just hired a lawyer, if he's lucky he can prove that he didn't know anything and sit in the big chair once the charges begin to be lodged.

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

"Trumpeteers are ignorant, hypocritical anti-intellectual trolls, and should be treated as such. At this point, the 35% or so who are truly still with him are unreachable, unworthy of being reached, and deserving of only one thing: political defeat, utter and complete without the least degree of mercy. They should be able to live their lives in the little Christo-fascist white nationalist fantasy of the mind that they inhabit...but this country does not belong to them and they cannot have it. They must lose. Period. No compromise. No power sharing. Defeat. Modernity wins, they lose. That is all"

This guy just does not get it.

It also seems like something that Democrat shooter would write in his manifesto, had he survived.

Probably not a good idea to ostracize 60 +/- million Americans with that kind of hate speech. HRC tried it too.

Originally Posted by Slick

Trumpeteers are [...] hypocritical...

Originally Posted by Slick

[...] hate speech

Q. to the muthafucking E.D. yo!

Originally Posted by Slick

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

"Trumpeteers are ignorant, hypocritical anti-intellectual trolls, and should be treated as such. At this point, the 35% or so who are truly still with him are unreachable, unworthy of being reached, and deserving of only one thing: political defeat, utter and complete without the least degree of mercy. They should be able to live their lives in the little Christo-fascist white nationalist fantasy of the mind that they inhabit...but this country does not belong to them and they cannot have it. They must lose. Period. No compromise. No power sharing. Defeat. Modernity wins, they lose. That is all"

This guy just does not get it.

It also seems like something that Democrat shooter would write in his manifesto, had he survived.

Probably not a good idea to ostracize 60 +/- million Americans with that kind of hate speech. HRC tried it too.

Must confess I posted this to troll you, longway and other disciples of the Mango Mussolini ...

And yes ... he's still talking the same old high pitched bullshite he did before the election.

And ... IMHO he preaches to his niche audience because that's who pays his bills.

I happen to agree with a lot he sez but do think he sounds like a pussy trying to talk tough all the time.

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Must confess I posted this to troll you, longway and other disciples of the Mango Mussolini ...

You defo got a massive bite on that line! Must be one of the Triggered Fish.

I'm just gonna go ahead and assume none of them will actually follow the link or read the article though.

It's pretty spot on. Right-wingers are the first to cry about how their 'Freedom of Speech(TM)' is being impugned or when defending their own hateful rhetoric but have little qualms over telling people to shut up when they hear something they don't like.

And of course they follow the Cheeto in Chief who has made hate-speech into a Twitter art form and celebrate each one of his ignorant missives.

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

I happen to agree with a lot he sez

Like what?

On Suburban Drive, Donald Trump's controversies aren't hurting him: Ohio Matters | cleveland.com

On Suburban Drive, Donald Trump's controversies aren't hurting him: Ohio Matters

BEAVERCREEK, Ohio--On a quiet, leafy street appropriately named Suburban Drive, the controversies surrounding President Donald Trump seem to be doing more to hurt Democrats' popularity than the president's.

"I think they should let President Trump do his job - they're trying to sandbag him all the time," said Richard Rautio, a 72-year-old retired union auto worker and lifelong Democrat who voted for Trump. "The Democrat Party is not the Democrat Party that it used to be. It's changed. And they don't seem to see how people feel."

There's a lot of support for Trump among the white, middle-class, and often gray-haired residents who live along Suburban Drive in this Greene County suburb east of Dayton, though a sprinkling of Hillary Clinton yard signs was seen along the street last year.

And despite the escalating reports scandalizing Trump's first few months in office - an investigation into whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russia, the controversial firing of FBI Director James Comey, accusations that the president obstructed justice - support for the president here hasn't flagged.

"I don't really think that Trump was in bed with someone from Russia," said Paula Wheeler, a 66-year-old retiree whose Trump yard sign was still visible in her open garage. "I think it was just something they [the Democrats] ran with. It was something they could pick about - like Trump did with [ex-President Barack] Obama, about his birth certificate."

Trump's supporters here yielded that the president hasn't done the best job handling the attacks, and some said they wish he would take a break from posting comments on Twitter.

But even when Trump responds awkwardly, in their eyes, it's not necessarily a negative - it just reinforces his credibility as a non-politician who's come to shake up Washington, D.C.

"He's not the same type of people as a lot of politicians. He never was," said 67-year-old Trump voter Chuck Stone as he pulled weeds in his front yard. "So they've got to give him the benefit of the doubt."

Stone and many of his neighbors lamented how politically polarized America has become - a trend they blamed on a constant barrage of sensationalistic and negative stories from the news media.

Scott MacKenzie, a 54-year-old Clinton voter, called Trump a "self-centered, materialistic, narcissistic boob." But he said the Russian investigation was being blown out of proportion by the media, which are controlled and manipulated by the super-rich.

"I think it's part of the media just kind of trying to stir up (expletive), distract us from the idea that we're getting pretty much fleeced," he said.

The media, MacKenzie said, should spend more time covering happy stories instead of things like Wednesday's attack on Republican congressmen during a baseball practice.

"It's like, what priority do you have on that? How's it really impact your life? Are you going to go play baseball with the congressmen? Probably not. Do you get depressed over it? Probably, if you listen to it," MacKenzie said.

"I got a good job, I got a girlfriend, I'm healthy, I got a house to live in, all my material needs are met, my spiritual needs are met," he added. "Despite what the media says, I'm happy."